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Ron Paul Controlled Opposition and ensuing civil war

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posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 03:42 PM
I hope this is the right forum to post this video I made. I believe there is a faction in control who wants the people to rise up and create a violent crisis. That is why DHS has ordered all those hollow point bullets and MRAP vehicles. It is why our police are becoming a standing army. They are creating the problem to push for their solution of total control and complete subversion of what America was founded upon as revealed in the constitution.

They (the controllers / puppet masters) create an opposition to control the debate. Ron Paul is one such person and while we have been marching for years, standing on corners with signs, going on talk radio (more controlled opposition) nothing has changed and in fact we are further into the control dynamic.

posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 04:10 PM
reply to post by UnifiedSerenity

There is controlled opposition and there is very little doubt that what we have in the US is a 2-headed 1-Party system.

But to suggest that RON PAUL is controlled opposition is completely ignorant and misguided.

While there is a regular "audit" of the Fed, its a very cursory audit. Senator Judd Greg said with regards to Ron Paul's Bill that "the audit requirements would be detrimental to monetary policy. Gregg added that "It's great PR; you go home and beat up the Fed."

So what Ron Paul was pushing for was a true audit of the Fed with the goal that it would lead to its dismantling.

And while we still didnt get a full audit, the partial audit revealed $16 trillion in bailouts.

The U.S. Federal Reserve gave out $16.1 trillion in emergency loans to U.S. and foreign financial institutions between Dec. 1, 2007 and July 21, 2010, according to figures produced by the government’s first-ever audit of the central bank.

And then he goes on to say that Alex and David Icke are also controlled opposition...?

He says some things that are correct then mixes in a lot of misguided, inaccurate opinions.

Funny that he mentions problem reaction solution, a concept that David Icke has spoken about in great detail:

edit on 17-1-2014 by gladtobehere because: wording

posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 04:14 PM
So maybe the whole deal is a controlled Hegelian Dialectic?

Contradiction between a proposition (thesis) and its antithesis is resolved at a higher level?

posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 04:31 PM
I am just going to keep tossing this out until it sticks. This is what DHS is. They would have a hard time controling a small town.

DHS has 240,000 employees.

55,000 of those come from TSA. Of those 48,000 are unarmed TSO gate personel that have no weapons and no police powers. Of the remainder the only armed agents belong to the Air Marshals.

63,000 belong to customs and border patrol. of them 48,000 are armed agents along the US Borders and Ports.

20,000 belong to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, ICE is the second largets law enforment agency behind the FBI. Although of course not all of those are armed agents.

7,474 belong to FEMA they are unarmed and not law enforcement

2000 belong to the Federal Protective Services who are resposible for security at 9000 federal buildings. Only 900 are armed agents.

18,000 belong to United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, no armed agents.

6,800 belong to the United States Secret Service, of which 4,400 are armed agents.

70,000 belong to the coast guard of which 42,000 active duty members that could be armed.

And then you have a bunch of unarmed DHS office workers.

DHS also runs the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center that trains all federal agents and interantional students as well.

So if DHS stripped the borders of all border and customes agents, pull the coast guard off its ships, pulled the Secret Service from protecting the President and from chasing counterfiters, pulled ICE from detaining illegals, pulled air marshals off the planes, pulld FPS from protecting federal buildings and put them all together in one hodgepodge force you could possibly field about around 117,000 armed men and women. Made up mostly of the Coast Guard and Immigration, border and customs agents. That is what people are afraid of. That is your scary DHS army. And while your pathetic DHS army is doing whatever people think it is going to do the borders, airports. ports, federal buildings and the White House are wide open. Now can we please put the DHS super army theory to bed.

posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 04:51 PM
reply to post by gladtobehere

Yes, I love how Icke talks about Hegelian dialectic as if that means he doesn't have an agenda he is steering them towards. He preaches against religion, tells others to think for themselves, then spends 3 hours preaching his spiritual path and encouraging others to embrace astro-theology and Blavatsky thinking.

Icke speaks about reptillians and looks like an idiot, claims to be the son of God, and thus whatever real truth he does bring out, people can say ..."Oh, you think the Queen of England is Lizard like Icke huh?" Same thing with Alex Jones who speaks 95% truth then tosses out some garbage so anything you bring up that he has talked about can be disregarded.

These people are meant to keep us sitting on our collective rear ends, thinking something will change and then we watch them get worse. Ron Paul purposefully did not try to win the primary. Now, we have his son taking up the torch while we slip deeper into tyranny.

posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 04:56 PM
This whole post is dis info. I mean what possibloe true proof do you have that ROn Paul is controlled opposition? So besides the Fed which ROn paul has been in the lead for so many years talking about that issue. Ron Paul has talked about so many liberty and freedom issues. He has been agains the military inudstrial complex all the war's. To say that Ron paul is controlled is just. I mean to just humor you what has Ron Paul done for the Oppostion what has Ron paul done for the Globalist cause
? What has Rn paul done for the establishment??

posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 04:58 PM
reply to post by UnifiedSerenity

wait what facts do you have that says Ron Paul purposely didnt win?
Are you saying that just because he didnt go independent?

posted on Jan, 17 2014 @ 06:38 PM
I have read or heard about the May 2014 protest or American Spring. Just a couple of thoughts off the top of my head.

Nothing gets changed unless attention is drawn to a problem. Look at the Vietnam protest that started small and ended up with some of the largest marches and protest this nation has ever seen... Only when pressure was applied by the people did policy get changed.. The democratic process can be very messy and not well organized sometimes, unlike a totalitarian regime where everything is in lock step.

Remember the Bonus Army that got beat from their shanty town and evicted from D.C....Guess what they showed up the very next year and did the whole thing over again... That is where the impetus for G.I. Bill came from.

Do you think if Martin Luther King and his followers had not gotten off their butts and placed themselves in harms way civil rights would be anything like today?

“We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor,” Martin Luther King Jr. warned in his “Letter from a Birmingham Jail.” “It must be demanded by the oppressed.”

Oh my! Golly Gee Whiz he got arrested! Many others got beat and some lost their lives as he did. But they thought the struggle was worth it and real change happened.

Look at history it really shows the outcome of what happens when people unite and demand change.. If there is a true Conspiracy it is how people all over the world are kept divided by propaganda and fear IMO.

Maybe those who preach, "if you do this it is a trap and Martial law will be declared and you will lose everything" are the ones who are the dis-info agents that knowingly or unknowingly keep the lid on a box of change by instilling fear.

Kinda like cop shows on T.V. where they always capture the bad guy; just does not happen like they want you to believe... Look at the missing persons every year or the unsolved crime reports if you do not believe me.

Then there are the laws constructed for the elite, which allow bankers who crash the economy to walk free. They’re the laws which allow police officers to avoid prosecution when they shoot unarmed citizens, strip search non-violent criminals, or taser pregnant women on the side of the road, or pepper spray peaceful protesters. These are the laws of the new age we are entering, an age of neo-feudalism, in which corporate-state rulers dominate the rest of us, where the elite create the laws which can result in a person being jailed for possessing a small amount of marijuana while bankers that launder money for drug cartels walk free. In other words, we have moved into an age where we are the slaves and they are the rulers.

Congress and the Senate is dominated by millionaires ...Yet they feel your pain...

Indeed, although America is supposed to be a representative republic, these people-- who earn six-figure salaries and inhabit a world exempt from parking tickets, where gym membership is free and health care is second-to-none, where you only have to work two, maybe three days a week and get 32 fully reimbursed road trips home a year, travel to foreign lands, discounts in Capitol Hill tax-free shops and restaurants, free reserved parking at Washington National Airport, free fresh-cut flowers from the Botanic Gardens, and free assistance in the preparation of income taxes--neither represent nor serve the American people. They have instead appointed themselves our masters.
Add: Best health care in America

Virtually all U.S. senators, and most of the representatives in the House, are members of the top 1 percent when they arrive, are kept in office by money from the top 1 percent, and know that if they serve the top 1 percent well they will be rewarded by the top 1 percent when they leave office. By and large, the key executive-branch policymakers on trade and economic policy also come from the top 1 percent. When pharmaceutical companies receive a trillion-dollar gift--through legislation prohibiting the government, the largest buyer of drugs, from bargaining over price--it should not come as cause for wonder. It should not make jaws drop that a tax bill cannot emerge from Congress unless big tax cuts are put in place for the wealthy. Given the power of the top 1 percent, this is the way you would expect the system to work.

The government is too big, too powerful, and its body politic too entrenched to willingly give up any of its power or wealth with inaction by the population.

The problem in any country where the population gives up it's individual response to "government doing wrong" it is guaranteed to get nothing but more wrong doing.
Ukraine passes sweeping legislation against acts of protest:

Pro-government lawmakers on Thursday pushed legislation through Ukraine's parliament on Thursday that criminalised acts of protest, an apparent bid to undermine months of demonstrations against President Viktor Yanukovych.

Backed by 235 of Ukraine's 450 lawmakers, blockading public buildings will now be punishable by up to five years in prison.
The Thai people are protesting their government and have said they will stay in protest until the present regime steps down. You think they will go peacefully?

Yesterday's incident was the latest in a series of violent attacks targeting the seven protest sites in the city and places belonging to supporters or sympathisers of the movement, including opposition politicians. Hand grenades and assault rifles were among the weapons used.

About half an hour after the attack, the government's Centre for the Administration of Peace and Order warned members of the public and state officials against joining street protests organised by the People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC).

No government likes a messy protest that points out their corruption or wrong doing

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