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MysterX
He threatened to kill, actually threatened mass murder.
OK, maybe he didn't really mean it who knows, but he made the threats..now he'll have plenty of time to regret it.
boncho
A threat is a threat is a threat.
I thought that was a slap on the wrist kind of thing (still taken seriously though).
And shouldn't a mental health component be added to that?
thisguyrighthere
So here we have some guy who's hot enough and unstable enough to threaten mass murder.
It's important here to note that the target of his rage is a big bureaucracy. Namely corporate customer service.
Now we take this angry and unstable man, who is angry at a bureaucracy, and lock him up with murderers and rapists and theives for about four years.
He's supposed to come out what exactly? Calm? Rehabilitated? Pleasant? Respectful?
This is like when I was in high school and some kid would threaten to "beat me up" for calling him an asshole. My response was always "and that proves you're not an asshole how exactly?"
I know everybody feels like they have to do "something" whatever that "something" is no matter how futile or even harmful that "something" may be but what exactly is the point of this punishment here? What does it hope to achieve?
Because nobody has ever come out of prison pissed off and out for revenge, right?
I think the threat of terrorism, is terrorism.
Helious
reply to post by spacedog1973
I think the threat of terrorism, is terrorism.
He threatened to shoot somebody in the face, that's no terrorism, that's murder. He threatened it would be another Sandy Hook, maybe he meant he was going to be conducting an active shooter drill in their corporate office or maybe he meant he was going shoot more than one person in a fit of rage, that is also not terrorism, that is multiple counts of first degree murder.
Terrorism isn't what everyone on TV tells you it is.
Domestic terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics: Appear intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population
Well, if he is saying 'its going to be another Sandy Hook', then to me, what he is threatening is more than one shooting. The threat it made toward random people, its a threat intended to cause widespread fear. Thats terrorism.
If police take his threat seriously, based upon the quote, they will see it as a terrorist threat and act accordingly. Terrorism is terror, to cause terror through the spread of fear. Whether the end of that terrorism is a charge of murder or multiple murders is immaterial.
Realtruth
reply to post by Liquesence
You are correct in your assessment and I was hoping someone with legal case history would weigh in.
Now I will add some interesting information to the topic.
Dearborn, Michigan has the highest Arabic population in the USA, so are they possibly profiling him as a potential terrorist due to his ethnic background?
Helious
Crime is crime, crime doesn't turn into terrorism because the DHS, NSA or Obama says so.
spacedog1973
Helious
Crime is crime, crime doesn't turn into terrorism because the DHS, NSA or Obama says so.
The terrorism definitions are a catch-all, they are designed specifically for that purpose; to be stretched to where they can be applied where necessary. Identical acts can have different names for their crimes. It depends on how the government sees it or chooses to prosecute it.
In this climate, acts such as these can very easily be labelled terrorism. Its a hard/sad fact that people have been prosecuted under terrorism laws for far less. Thats whether we like it or not. Its the times we live in.
In this climate, acts such as these can very easily be labelled terrorism. Its a hard/sad fact that people have been prosecuted under terrorism laws for far less. Thats whether we like it or not. Its the times we live in.
Helious
reply to post by spacedog1973
I think the threat of terrorism, is terrorism.
He threatened to shoot somebody in the face, that's no terrorism, that's murder. He threatened it would be another Sandy Hook, maybe he meant he was going to be conducting an active shooter drill in their corporate office or maybe he meant he was going shoot more than one person in a fit of rage, that is also not terrorism, that is multiple counts of first degree murder.
Terrorism isn't what everyone on TV tells you it is.
That's not a threat. If he had said been standing there holding a gun to said person's face, or had he said over the phone, "I'm going to shoot you in the face," THAT would be a threat,
“Do you want to get shot in the face over a couple of dollars,”