Russian Jet fighters

payta
State of the art jetfighters, unbeatble in dogfights. Russia has the best jets, dont expect to see an f-22 doing that.
JMHO

And yet they are outclassed by the no-less amazing feature of the F-22 and very few other western production aircraft can pull off - and so far none of the production Russian Wunderplanes.

Because supercruise is actually a militarily useful maneuver, while pretty aerobatics will mostly be more for show until one develops reliable all-aspect guided missile defense.

reply to post by neformore


Sup, actually Vietnam had Russian Pilots in some of the Migs go against U.S. Fighters. They did ok considering no gun in the F-4.

As far as the Mig-25 goes, it was a piece of junk. That high flying, fast Russian machine had to have it's engines replaced after one flight at those speeds if not an outright deadstick to a runway.
If that Mig -25 slowed down and dropped to the same altitude as the F-4, my money is on the F-4. In other words, just because the SR-71 could out altitude and speed anything out there doesn't make it a "fighter".

The Mig-25 couldn't catch an SR-71 and had no BVR capabilities. The U.S. fighters of those days probably would have beat that steel monster with ease!

As far as chest beating goes, don't forget the best way to raise funds for new developments was to HYPE Russian technology.

The Soviet Union went broke trying to back engineer U.S./Western technology and by the time they got a result it was already obsolete.

That's not "chest beating". That's fact.

Are they closer now? Sure. Their best weapon ever was socialism and it's the best weapon ever devised to defeat U.S. technology.....

reply to post by EnigmaAgent


Why do people make-up these type of videos?

As already pointed out the initial footage is of radio controlled models. The footage is ripped off from the following.



The footage from 01:30 is very well known and shot during the 1990s. It shows one of the prototype Su-27Ms (original Su-35) with the sand/brown/green camouflage and canards. You can see the bort number on the nose as it taxis in during the 1990s footage. Bort number 709. This is Su-27M prototype has long since retired and is now in storage at Zhukovsky. This aircraft was noted in the storage area about 7 years ago (first image in following link)

Link

709 imaged during 1995.

www.airliners.net...


The footage of the Su-35 is from Sukhoi promotional videos during the 1990s. You can tell by the old camera equipment used by the photographers. The person that made up the initial video simply lifted it from on of the many uploads of this original 1990s footage.

nwtrucker

The Mig-25 couldn't catch an SR-71 and had no BVR capabilities. The U.S. fighters of those days probably would have beat that steel monster with ease!

Well the best comparison would be Tomcat vs MiG 31 (-25 successor, which actually worked), which had similar missions despite being very different aircraft.

theaviationist.com...

The Shah of Iran bought F-14's with the long range AIM-54 because of intrusions from Soviet MIG-25 and other planes.

The Soviet Union went broke trying to back engineer U.S./Western technology and by the time they got a result it was already obsolete.

That's not "chest beating". That's fact.

Actually in the early days, the Soviet Union successfully 'back-engineered' US nuclear weapons and very quickly developed a comparable indigenous capability. They had excellent to superior rocketry, but lagged in electronics---substantially because there was no capitalist civilian computer & telecom industry.