Would America collapse under the weight of mass exodus?

reply to post by ChefSlug


According to my research, there will be a mass exodus of ALL real Christians off of this earth on 9/16/2016. This is known as the Rapture or Resurrection of the Church. It will cripple many nations, primarily America.

Im still posting my findings here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by BELIEVERpriest


It's nice that you like to foolishly believe that Revelations is imminent like all these other guys, but this thread isn't about doom porn, so maybe don't derail it with a shameless plug for your doom porn thread.

ETA: Also I highly doubt there are enough true Christians in America to effect this country in any significant way if a rapture were to truly happen.

Why exactly would you need a warp-drive and the discovery of a new planet to "flee" the US?
You can do that right now, there are many different countries.

Since, OBVIOUSLY, no masses of people flee towards other countries today it's unlikely they will do because a new planet was discovered.

Come on, I mean seriously you could choose to move to Nepal right this moment to become a monk or you could leave everything behind to move in a hut in the Amazon..how would that be different?

Even with a new planet it won't happen since one of the big obstacles for people (regardless where) is they voluntarily accept their current status-quo life, their 9-5 jobs, their sh!tty boss, work etc... even if literally everyone basically has the choice to change this right this very moment.

reply to post by NoRulesAllowed


Yea, I mentioned this earlier in the thread. There would never be a mass exodus of people if we colonized a new planet. Just a small sample of people looking for adventure, to claim new land unclaimed, and some just to get away. There is something romantic about discovering new land and braving new worlds that captures many a person's heart. I imagine that will call a bunch of people, but not enough to destabilize any country left on Earth (that is kind of why I switched the topic to talking about the settlers). For examples in history, look at Europe colonizing the New World. None of those countries were destabilized by some MAD RUSH of people to colonize this new land.

reply to post by Krazysh0t


Im not derailing anything. I just posted a relevant scenario involving a mass dissapearance a select group of people, and the projected effects it would have on America. You disapproved of my opinion so you lashed out at me and automatically wrote me off as another doom-porn propagandist.

Thats, ok. But what if, in the end Im right and your wrong. What then?

Im not changing the subject, Im contributing to the topic. If you dont like it, ignore me.

reply to post by Krazysh0t


Oh now c'mon! Think about it. Just like zero over there, think how happy you'd be when we all got off your lawn if BELIEVER is right.

But it's attitudes like yours that make me wonder if the Bible thumpers might not be better for me if we all did get off the planet despite my libertarian leaning. You obviously wouldn't make a very good neighbor because the very suggestion of any kind of belief sets off some kind of allergy whether you're being asked to partake or not.

But I guess it's no more than I should expect. I never did fit in anywhere.

reply to post by ChefSlug


The people at ATS does not represent the majority of the human race. Rather it only represent a minority, the rebels and outcasts of the slave sheepie system.

Most people are too cowardly to move to another continent on planet earth. Let alone move to another planet in the universe.

YourGod
reply to post by ChefSlug

 

The people at ATS does not represent the majority of the human race. Rather it only represent a minority, the rebels and outcasts of the slave sheepie system.

Most people are too cowardly to move to another continent on planet earth. Let alone move to another planet in the universe.

Well I hate to say it, the majority of facebook kids will probably not even find certain countries on a map : )

": )" > ...seriously those smilies...ugh...

reply to post by NoRulesAllowed


There is a reason why I occasionally drop in on Failbook ... Some of those posts make me wonder if they're just trolling me with all that idiocy or if people are really that dumb.

reply to post by ChefSlug


The question I want to ask if there is an evacuation of the people who are having a hard time on earth where the people thriving in this world are not allowed to leave would you leave. If the same people who control this planet controls the next then it will be the same failure again. It is not really a technical problem but who we let speak for us and tell ous what is the happening in the world.

And from my point of view this whole planet is more or less under the same debt based economic enslaving system. Give me a place where I do not pay taxes and is not using fiat based currency.

randyvs
reply to post by ChefSlug

 

Warp drive is just to fast for me. I'd be the guy who stayed behind
so he could reap the riches of the dispersed population.
...
I'd be the ultimate looter.

You are exactly the type of person I wrote this for. How many people would do the same, stay behind and collect whatever the ambitious left behind? I would be right there with you but would we still have a government or would so many people travel off planet that America would collapse and be left with anarchy? If anyone could move and they were building all bright new shiny stuff for them, who would stick with the Earth and rebuild from the ruins of what we have now?

I'm assuming if we have the technology to colonize a planet we can make it a Utopia.

BELIEVERpriest
reply to post by Krazysh0t

 

Im not derailing anything. I just posted a relevant scenario involving a mass dissapearance a select group of people, and the projected effects it would have on America. You disapproved of my opinion so you lashed out at me and automatically wrote me off as another doom-porn propagandist.

Thats, ok. But what if, in the end Im right and your wrong. What then?

Im not changing the subject, Im contributing to the topic. If you dont like it, ignore me.

Then I'm wrong, would this allow you to gloat or something? But in either case seeing as how Christians have been saying the Apocalypse is imminent for the last 2000 years, I think I got the facts on my side. And again, you are offtopic, this isn't a religious thread. At no point did the OP ask about religions at all. There are plenty of threads where you can discuss Christianity's irrational love of the apocalypse. Go to one of them.

reply to post by ketsuko


First off, you are taking how I act on an internet forum as some sort of guide to how I act in real life. BIG mistake. Second, this isn't a religious thread like I just pointed out to BELIEVER. Christianity's irrational fear of the the end times doesn't give you guys free reign to hijack a thread and talk about whatever you want. This thread is about a hypothetical situation where we can colonize another planet, none of that has to do with some bs with horsemen of the apocalypse. Revelations has been debunked anyways. It's about the Roman Empire. It's kind of funny that Christians think it is about the end of the world when in fact that was never the case.

1. It’s about the end of the world

Anyone who has read the popular “Left Behind” novels or listened to pastors preaching about the “rapture” might see Revelation as a blow-by-blow preview of how the world will end.

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The author of Revelation had experienced a catastrophe. He wrote his book not long after 60,000 Roman soldiers had stormed Jerusalem in 70 A.D., burned down its great temple and left the city in ruins after putting down an armed Jewish revolt.

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Revelation was an anti-Roman tract and a piece of war propaganda wrapped in one. The message: God would return and destroy the Romans who had destroyed Jerusalem.

“His primary target is Rome,” Pagels says of the book’s author. “He really is deeply angry and grieved at the Jewish war and what happened to his people.”

Can we drop this silly topic now? I'd be more than happy to debate the actual purpose of this thread with you. It's actually insulting that you would defend someone who came in, posted something offtopic then has the AUDACITY to get offended when I call him out on it. Then you defend him. This is why people such as I get annoyed at Christians.

reply to post by Krazysh0t


The thread was started under 'prophecy and predictions'. Im not here to discuss theology, Im just offering information about a 'prophecy and prediction' that involves a mass exodus of humans resulting in world wide destablization. And dont confuse me with common date setters, my theory is mathematically sound.

So what if Im wrong. Wouldnt you at least appreciate a warning if it turns out Im not wrong?

Im not here to discuss the details of my findings either, I simply left a way to access the info.

If you dont want to read about it, ignore me.

reply to post by BELIEVERpriest


Mathematically sound in that it relies on the premise that Revelations is even about the end of the world. That premise has to be true for your math to hold up.

reply to post by Krazysh0t


I think you overstate things when you call it an irrational fear.

Why would I be afraid?

If anything it's fascinating to think I might be seeing it come together. At the same time it's sad because I don't want some things to end, there are some things I enjoy about this life very much and a lot of people who need a lot of help, a lot of work still to do.

But, if we're discussing whether or not a mass exodus of people would cause the US to collapse, we've already gone off on one tangent just by discussing whether or not people who leave to colonize a new world would be able to throw off control and create their own way. You and I are allies on this matter. We both think they could and people who leave would be inclined to try under the right conditions. Whatever does that discussion have to do with if the US would hold together back home?

And clearly, you have no problem going there as an imagination exercise because your theoretical schema allows for it. You can allow your mind to unbend enough to imagine the possibility of colonization of planets when we still haven't yet discovered either a planet that would allow for it or the means of getting there. You still have no problem brainstorming.

Going the other way, may seem more like playing a fantasy RPG game to you, but surely you can stretch that far to encompass that hypothetical for the sake of brainstorming. This is a Predictions & Prophecies forum after all. No one is asking you to believe just by discussing. It would be another way for people to leave the planet en masse.

Honestly, I'm surprised that no one has yet shown up talking about aliens coming to evacuate a large portion of people. I've seen that one floating around too. If I was going to have to stretch myself beyond belief in this discussion. That would be my challenge, but I'd do it because I enjoy that kind of exercise.

Or, I suppose to shorten the version of what I just wrote:

Lighten up.

Consider this: If you left, you'd never make it 'back'. Any planet we're talking about, the speed necessary to get there in a week, time dilation ... it's pretty much one way. If you changed your mind and returned ... hundreds of years (if not thousands) ... different.

Nothing else matters. Interesting concept though.

reply to post by Snarl


Exactly, they discussed that on a Science channel program.

Anyone who left would be burning all their bridges, so you'd have to very sure you really wanted off this rock. I still think that I'd be about ready to ship, particularly if my immediate family came, too.

reply to post by ketsuko


Alright whatever, I've said my piece. I'm out.