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Enlighten me, what is the actual purpose of deducting benefits from those with a spare room if not to force them from that property? You call me cuckoo yet its a very logical argument i just dont think you can stomach the sinister tone to it.
reply to post by destination now
That is one of the saddest replies I have ever read.
Do you know what is sad about it.
You are on housing benefit she was on housing benefit.
You said no one felt sorry for me no out cry when I had to pay, ME ME ME
You have children which you get family allowance for and extra benefit.
This woman lived herself and got perhaps £74 a week where the loss of £ 5 is a lot
But the saddest part of all is here we have the poor attacking the poor.
with a lack of compassion.
The difference between the rich and the poor.
Is the Rich dont attack the Rich
And that is why the rich have everything and the poor have nothing
reply to post by pavmas
Just reading your post proves its a 'myth' that people put by for a rainy day and managed
without benefits. You said "We all had to pay in because the minority had no family"
That's hardly applicable these days when a majority have many, with not too many
responsible fathers around.
At a 60% tax rate your £300 wage would leave you £120 and not £350
30% would leave you with £220
# As I don't smoke (a) I can't afford to, (b) Health reasons, I would become a
burden on the NHS. (which I don't have to use just because I have already paid into it)
# I did my sums when I first started earning and over my life time the cost of said
cigarettes has in all probability paid for my home!
# If I then buy a bottle of spirits to drown my sorrows, tomorrow I will still have
those same sorrows but be £20 down... Now I still have that £20 which over a year
becomes £1040, and over 10 years £10,400 ... handy little sum??
# £3 per week for road tax?? well roads need upkeep? less than a packet of fags?
priorities? Your driving if you who spend ? on cigarettes and you object to
the £3 take a bus, a train, cycle walk ....
# Shop around for your insurance, there's a difference of about £400 between
the highest and lowest of mine
# Funny you mentioning a plumber - just had one two days ago cost me £16 for
the part and £24 for the labour
# £45 60. for a meal for two ... Would this be a 'special occasion?' Many
pizzerias around my area are much more reasonable, and also do 'early bird'
specials .... or there's takeaways?
And anyway why are you so concerned with the tax affairs of the plumber or
restaurant owner that's their problem surely, their contribution to the
Any gambler is a mug, the only winners are the casinos/bookmakers you
should only ever gamble what you are prepared to loose ... most winners
put it straight back into the bookies pocket.
Bottom line nobody can take out more than is put in anywhere.
edit on 18-1-2014 by eletheia because: (no reason given)
Its late and I'm too tired to read the entire thread at the moment but I feel I must add my input as I am one of those affected by this cruelty by IDS and his scumbag mates.
Is it a tax? No, but it might as well be!
I asked for a tranfer two years before this evil was ever enforced, and I'm still living in the same house!!!
I bid on smaller properties but I am never offered anything!
I was nearly 1k in debt before the council fessed up and told me I could get help! I was losing £25 per week bcause of this evil!
In the house of lords it was announced that they only have 5% of the smaller homes needed to cope.
This is nothing todo with freeing up needed homes for those that need them. What it is about is this. They want people to BUY their homes, but those like me will never be able to afford them, and the ONLY way they can get people like me out is through eviction for non payment.
If ever there was a terrorism in this country, what IDS has done must surely fit! He should be locked up!
I can see there's people in this thread trying to explain it all away, to you I say this - They wont stop with us, soon it'll be YOUR turn!
reply to post by eletheia
You drive home in your car that you paid £600 Vat on and had to pay approx £3 a week in road tax.
reply to post by jude11
The government instituted a policy that makes it so if you have the misfortune of finding yourself unemployed and living in rented accommodation and need to claim welfare, you shouldn't be allowed to live in a home with extra bedrooms, without paying a tax for it.