H7N9 has mutated, may spread from human to human: expert

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Oh, sorry! My bad and how silly... She could be anywhere in the world for as little as I gave. (sheepish smile)..

We're talking SW Missouri for her as well, if that helps for what is known to be around here. I know what the news says..but they also haven't indicated the numbers and volume of sick people she eyeball confirmed inside the hospital and the prescription items being nearly sold out, city-wide.

So.. Hmpf.... Doesn't it get old being Mushrooms? Kept in the dark and shoveled with..."news".

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It hard to imagine the dark imaginations of such people who want to play God with peoples future but the one thing that stands out is their plan to reduce population . They aren't going to wait decades to see a small decline with less medical care for the old . Our vain imaginations that we are important or that because we are very educated and thus somehow important tends to dissuade us of the obvious . We are just numbers .
Agenda 21 is a real UN document that can be acquired . It is was Sustainable Development when Clinton signed it . That in it's self confirms a large population decrease to come as well as socialism/communism to America . This New World Order is not a Conspiracy and is becoming reality because it too is unconscionable to people . People will not believe it because they see it as gloom and doom . The Global Elite know this .

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There is a depopulation agenda, no doubt. I simply do not agree with your analysis as to how it's being implemented.

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Doesn't it get old being Mushrooms? Kept in the dark and shoveled with..."news".

Oh yeah. Gets old tripping over inconsistencies and contradictions all the time too.

UPDATE
Still no evidence of easy or sustained human-to-human transmission says the WHO, but China confirms 11 more H7N9 cases, 1 fatal; Hong Kong confirms 2nd death. Confirmed H7N9 cases total 174 with 52 deaths for a fatality rate of 30%.

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So far there is no sign of sustained human-to-human transmission, the WHO said. Most of the cases are sporadic, and health officials strongly suspect that many of the cases involve exposure to infected poultry and their environments in market settings.

China confirms 11 more H7N9 cases, 1 fatal CIDRAP News | Jan 13, 2014

Lab tests in China have confirmed 11 more H7N9 influenza infections over the past 3 days, including a fatal case, and Hong Kong has confirmed an H7N9 death in a previously reported case.

…New H7N9 case reports are steadily piling up in eastern China, where a second wave of infections is well under way amid a ramp-up of street market activity ahead of the Lunar New Year later this month. The new cases are from three recent H7N9 hot spots in eastern China: Guangdong province, Zhejiang province, and the city of Shanghai.

….The 11 new cases raise the number of confirmed H7N9 cases in China and its close neighbors to 174. The two new fatalities push the number of deaths in the outbreak so far to 52.

Hong Kong Centre for Health Protection

Members of the public should remain vigilant and take heed of the preventive advice against avian influenza below:

* Do not visit live poultry markets. Avoid contact with poultry, birds and their droppings. If contact has been made, thoroughly wash hands with soap;
* Poultry and eggs should be thoroughly cooked before eating;
* Wash hands frequently with soap, especially before touching the mouth, nose or eyes, handling food or eating; after going to the toilet or touching public installations or equipment (including escalator handrails, elevator control panels and door knobs); or when hands are dirtied by respiratory secretions after coughing or sneezing;
* Cover the nose and mouth while sneezing or coughing, hold the spit with a tissue and put it into a covered dustbin;
* Avoid crowded places and contact with fever patients; and
* Wear masks when respiratory symptoms develop or when taking care of fever patients.

The public may visit the CHP's avian influenza page (www.chp.gov.hk/en/view_content/24244.html) and website (www.chp.gov.hk/files/pdf/global_statistics_avian_influenza_e.pdf) for more information on avian influenza-affected areas and provinces.

Hong Kong confirms second death from H7N9 bird flu

China reports 2nd H7N9 bird flu death in a week

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I am not saying that the Global Elite will use a pandemic to thin the heard . From one article I read there is a division among the 10 Elite on population reduction . I will say there are some real suspicious activities with vaccines and the development of killer viruses and genetic engineering of a some what pandemic flop to be an extremely contagious and deadly virus . If this virus had not as you say evolved into a transmissible deadly virus in all of this time it is doubtful that it ever would . Why engineer it with great effort and expectations to be a real killer ? A loose canon within the Globalist could act on his own to release an agent and who would know . We call that a terrorist others may not .
Most likely we will die in a nuclear war or from contamination from reactor 3 in Japan .

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If this virus had not as you say evolved into a transmissible deadly virus in all of this time it is doubtful that it ever would .

You misunderstood. I did not say that. I would never say that. I would not think that. Everything I know about biology, evolution and science absolutely contradicts that statement.

The facts as I see them:
* A pandemic is looming;
* The burden of chronic disease in survivors will be FAR worse than the horrifically high fatality rate;
* The costs of the already existent chronic disease pandemic is already bankrupting most nations.
In light of these facts, my hypothesis is that the Zombie Apocalypse scenario is being marketed to manipulate people into accepting euthanasia and Eugenics policies to cull the herd, post pandemic. It is my hope that someone might discuss these thoughts with me.

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I'll have to say I feel the same way about the way that people are manipulated into believing and accepting what the ruling authorities puts forth . What poor soul would believe such things as Zombies . Then there is the endless ridiculing of people who oppose the views of the official line as Truthers and Tin hat . Truthers implies they want the truth . What?
I guess I do not give them the benefit of being moral and scrupulous people who are at the top of the Bilderbergers . These are very rich ruthless people who only thinks of their own welfare and money . That is why they are there .

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why on earth do they have to play with these things in the lab?! well, it seems they silly beggars have finally done it, we are but 1 step away from a global pandemic.

sometimes I really hate the direction and motive of some of our scientists.

There is a lot of good information on this thread so thank you all. I wanted to say that out of 21 people I would normally see on a Monday I only saw 3 at work today. That's a lot of sick people. One of the three I saw is in the lingering stage now (residual). I work in an environment where bleach is used to clean everything so it's either just a coincidence or it's a highly contagious bug this year.

I've had something hanging on and while I was given antibiotics (just in case), my entire body is swollen (my hands have never been so sore; legs are stiff and "full" from water pushing up against, etc.. I've never had anything like this happen. I know what it must feel like to have arthritis. It's a novel experience.

My fear - a virus or Bactria getting into me and causing permanent damage that causes something long term. I say come on strong and kick me outa my senses for a few days - allowing me to recover over whatever is going on now.

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You mention that the rising cost of healthcare is bankrupting countries . Who exactly is it holds the bank notes that the nations of the world will default their collateral too ? Who would stand to gain? The IMF/ World Bank /Federal Reserve ? Who are the majority owners in those Banks . Who controls all of the Gold ? And why is it missing ?

They seem to be creating new viruses left and right. I think they were done this way on purpose. I'm sure you've seen or heard of the guidestones by now, there is a population control mechanism in place, and the fastest way to that end is through disease.

Fortunately, there are some things you can do to protect yourself against almost any pathogenic entity. The first thing is to avoid exposure to toxic environments (like fukushima, chemical plants, hospitals). The second is to keep your immune system as healthy as possible, stop using anti-bacterial soaps, get your hands dirty in dirt, to have your body develop an immunity to common pathogens. Thirdly, have important natural supplements on hand like, potassium iodine, zeolyte, colloidal silver, and maybe some reishi or other medicinal mushroom extracts on hand. These can give your immune system a boost.

Here are some immune boosters that will help you stay as healthy as possible against mutating viruses and pandemics: Immune System Builders

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why on earth do they have to play with these things in the lab?! well, it seems they silly beggars have finally done it, we are but 1 step away from a global pandemic.

sometimes I really hate the direction and motive of some of our scientists.

Environments change, microbes adapt, EVOLUTION HAPPENS without scientists and labs. Scientists are not 'playing in labs' - they are trying to understand how microbes evolve so they can get ahead of pandemics and save more people.

Some global corporations do such experiments in secret so they can own what they learn privately, and profit from the Intellectual Property Rights. This is who you are supporting whether you know it or not.

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I've obviously missed my calling completely. I should be thinking profit - writing books, pitching products and hawking my wares instead of seeking intelligent dialogue.

The target group for population control would be the mid to upper middle class. Getting rid of the people who have unnecessary jobs and are more apt to resist loosing what they have. Just a logical target area. This would not be classified as targeting a specific genetic line so it is not genocide.

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On that note, what would happen if we went to colonize another planet, and lived in some sort of biodome?

Surely, a good chunk of those microbes would be left on earth. Would that not limit our adaptive, and evolutionary potential?

Maybe weaken us?

Sorry for the tangent. Just curious.

A similar experiment was tried out back here on Earth - Biosphere I and Biosphere II.

gizmodo.com...

The researchers couldn't get on with each other. Then various species would die off from one pest infestation or another.

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Scientific research cost big money . What does the real money people want ? Do you really know . What does the Guide Stones say and who really put them there ? I know the "official" story .

UPDATE: Into the 2nd Wave

[2014-01-15] Xinhuanet says that about 150 cases of H7N9 bird flu have been confirmed in China since the first case in March last year. 7thspace reports "As of 9pm today, a total of 176 human cases of avian influenza A(H7N9) have been confirmed in the Mainland." CIDRAP, January 14, 2014: "Today's newly reported cases boost the number of patients infected with the virus so far to 177, 52 of them fatally."

As of 9pm today [2014-01-15], a total of 176 human cases of avian influenza A(H7N9) have been confirmed in the Mainland, including Zhejiang (63 cases), Shanghai (37 cases), Jiangsu (30 cases), Guangdong (18 cases), Fujian (seven cases), Jiangxi (six cases), Anhui (four cases), Henan (four cases), Beijing (two cases), Hunan (two cases), Shandong (two cases) and Hebei (one case).

China reports 4 new H7N9 cases

2014-01-15 20:58:21
GUANGZHOU, Jan. 15 (Xinhua) -- Four new human contractions of H7N9 bird flu were reported in three provinces in China on Wednesday, according to provincial health authorities.

Xinhua Insight: Bird flu epidemic overshadows Chinese New Year

…Health authorities are deeply concerned by the resurgent epidemic, with about twenty new cases reported in the first two weeks of 2014, mostly in eastern costal regions. About 150 cases of H7N9 bird flu have been confirmed in China since the first case in March last year. [2014-01-15]

NEW H7N9 SCIENTIFIC RESULTS

Results of research by a Chinese team published in the Lancet, have established that variation of an amino acid on the H7 gene has made the H7N9 strain more infectious to mammals.

"On the PB2 gene, we have found another variation in a key amino acid. One more variation of a specified amino acid, and human-to-human transmission will become much more likely," said Liang, indicating his extremely high concern over the possibility.

The team recently identified a new partial variation in the virus, demonstrating its capacity to adapt to its environment.

"It has increased the risk of human-to-human transmission and brought more difficulty in treatment," Liang added.

"In spite of this, there is no reason to panic. We can confirm that the H7N9 flu virus has not shown scaled variation and human-to-human transmission," said Gao Hainyu, a member of the team drafting a thesis on the new results.

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CDC Issues Health Alerts for H5N1 and H7N9 bird flu - H7N9 going epidemic in China.

CIDRAP: News Scan for Jan 16, 2014

...the CDC yesterday issued a Health Alert Network (HAN) advisory that said clinicians should consider the possibility of H5N1 infection in patients who have a severe respiratory illness and a history of travel within 10 days before illness onset to areas with H5N1 circulation.

The notice also encourages state health departments to investigate such cases and to report them to the CDC within 24 hours. Potential human cases of H7N9 avian influenza also should be investigated and reported, the agency said. Human H7N9 cases emerged in China last spring, and many cases, some fatal, have been reported in the past few weeks.

CHP notified of seven additional human cases of avian influenza A(H7N9) in Mainland

Hong Kong (HKSAR) - The Centre for Health Protection (CHP) of the Department of Health (DH) today (January 16) received notification of seven additional human cases of avian influenza A(H7N9) respectively in Guangzhou (one case) and Foshan (one case) from the Health and Family Planning Commission of Guangdong Province and in Fujian (two cases), Guizhou (one case) and Zhejiang (two cases) from the National Health and Family Planning Commission.

…As of 9pm today, a total of 183 human cases of avian influenza A(H7N9) have been confirmed in the Mainland, including Zhejiang (65 cases), Shanghai (37 cases), Jiangsu (30 cases), Guangdong (20 cases), Fujian (nine cases), Jiangxi (six cases), Anhui (four cases), Henan (four cases), Beijing (two cases), Hunan (two cases), Shandong (two cases), Hebei (one case) and Guizhou (one case, imported from Zhejiang).

UPDATE: 2nd WAVE

China is into the H7N9 Epidemic's 2nd wave, not just another "outbreak," as pointed out above - now, authorities acknowledge the situation.

(Reuters) - A big wave of H7N9 bird flu cases and deaths in China since the start of 2014 is a reminder that emerging flu strains need constant surveillance if the world is not to be caught off guard by a deadly pandemic.

At least 24 H7N9 flu infections and three deaths have been confirmed in the past week by the World Health Organisation (WHO), a dramatic increase on the two cases and one death reported for the four-month summer period of June to September.

"There's now a clear second wave of this virus," said Jake Dunning, a researcher at Imperial College London who has been monitoring the outbreak.

New cases put H7N9 pace near last year's peak

The pace of new H7N9 avian flu cases in China over the past week is rivaling the daily crush of infections that occurred during the first peak of activity last spring after the virus first emerged, with reports today of seven new illnesses, one of them fatal.

What began as a trickle of reports in October that signaled H7N9's resurgence in humans, primarily from poultry exposure, has expanded over the past few weeks to several cases reported each day. Thirty-one have been confirmed from Jan 10 through today, a number below but approaching the 38 cases reported during the peak week of disease activity, which began on Apr 8, 2013.

Experts contacted by CIDRAP News say the situation bears close monitoring but differed in their level of expressed concern over the situation.