The 12/21/2012 red herring.

Haha wot m8?!


In the beginning was the Word,....God spoke us and everything into existence. The Bible is a collection/record of the Word. The Mayan Calendar is not sharper than any two edged sword able to divide the soul and the spirit.

The Mayan culture? It has been wiped from the face of the earth and maybe because as far as we know they were followers of the demon Molech. Too bad Molech was wiped out by YHWH in a game of rock, paper, scissors. You follow your dead clay calendar, I will live by the living Word written on my heart.
a reply to: Vasa Croe

a reply to: Mon1k3r

To me its the blind leading the blind and the punchline is they both go into the ditch. The word says that no man nor the Lord's messengers know the hour. People spend too much time with this misdirection rather than doing His work.

originally posted by: sirjunlegun
Haha wot m8?!


In the beginning was the Word,....God spoke us and everything into existence. The Bible is a collection/record of the Word. The Mayan Calendar is not sharper than any two edged sword able to divide the soul and the spirit.

The Mayan culture? It has been wiped from the face of the earth and maybe because as far as we know they were followers of the demon Molech. Too bad Molech was wiped out by YHWH in a game of rock, paper, scissors. You follow your dead clay calendar, I will live by the living Word written on my heart.
a reply to: Vasa Croe

To clarify, Im not supporting any aspect of the idolitrous Mayan culture, I am simply pointing out the similarities between the Mayan calendar and the Paleo-Hebrew calendar. It is likely that the Phoenicians took knowledge of the Biblical calendar from Solomon's kingdom to the Mesoamerican cultures. We already know that some South American tribes traded with the Celts and Carthiaginians. A Phoenician connection is not out of the question.

originally posted by: sirjunlegun
a reply to: Mon1k3r

To me its the blind leading the blind and the punchline is they both go into the ditch. The word says that no man nor the Lord's messengers know the hour. People spend too much time with this misdirection rather than doing His work.

Jesus said that no man would know the day/hour of His return to establish His kingdom. Why? Because He stated that He would shorten the Tribulation for the sake of the Elect. Jesus was not speaking of the rapture. He never addressed the rapture directly, nor did He prohibit the knowledge of its timing.

The Rapture and Second Advent are two very different events.

a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness
Not stressing over it. Nothing to be done anyway.
I just find it interesting, and a lot of info too.

originally posted by: BigBrotherDarkness
1000's of people die every day in many varied ways, but I guess mass casualty makes for the best doom porn of all, it's like the centerfold people just can't wait to unfold isn't it? Just like one of the many thousands that will die today and tomorrow and the next... the end for you will come, so why be so concerned about what form your number will be delivered?

Do you seriously live a life worth stressing out over how and when it all will end? In my 40 odd years I've done and seen about all I really need too 10's if not 100's of times. Sure there's more left to see and do, so still being alive I will contnue to see and do, but if it all ended for me, even today or in the next 10 minutes... that would be ok. I hope those that are honestly stressed and worried over such things can aquire such peace, my advice? Just have the wisdom to let go of all you cannot control, you'll be much happier.

Why must we be subjected to your complete lack of vision, and totally mainstream CONTROLLED view of how to look at this information?

The overall, OVERRIDING facts of these dates and numbers, are that they are not just BELIEVED by the controlling parties of this planet, and BEYOND.

But they are EVERLASTINGLY used as guideposts as to what will happen, here, there , and everywhere!

Something far larger than apparently most people are allowed to even BEGIN to comprehend goes on, with all the energies of creation, and someone(THINGS) have made abundantly clear, that they will use this place to direct energies OUTWARDS to control everywhere else, as it is HERE!!!

Could the paleohebrew calander mayan connection be a mornon thing?

If the paloehedrews came to north America and we're taught by Jesus after his resurrection the they would share the same Calendar

this would also point to Cortez as Quetzalcoatl myth as being true

The return of their God from across the sea

Quetzalcoatl could have been Jesus both born to virgins (in some myths)

And teaching the paleohebrew in America which would bridge the paleohebrew and mayan calenders

I hope that all came out right

Thoughts?

reply to: BELIEVERpriest

a reply to: Another_Nut

Ive heard that the Mormons believe that native Americans are hebrews, but I came to my conclusions independently. The fact that the Mormons hold their belief is atleast a partial corroboration of my theory.

Both the Paleo-Hebrews and Phoenicians shared the same alphabet at one point, so it is very possible that atleast some native American tribes are not Hebrews, but the remnants of Phoenicia (Cainaan). The Carthaginians were a colony that broke away from the Phoenicians. At one point, they were in contact with the Proto-Spaniard Celts. In South America, there are ruins that display Celtic Runes (alphabet), and tribes that use sling-shot bindings similar to those of the Carthaginians. They have also discovered mesoamerican pottery that bare a striking resemblance to the Classical Greek style, as well as a hatchet that had an emblem of a Greek bull-god.

What does this all mean? It seems that MesoAmerica may have initially started out as a Phoenician trading colony in the ancient world. This would have been hundreds of years before Jesus' incarnation. I find it most likely that the Phoenicians who helped King Solomon build his temple under the King of Tyre, were the same Phoenicians that took the Paleo-Hebrew calendar to MesoAmerica.

The Phoenicians were one of the earliest Post-diluvian civilizations. They probably existed during, or at least remembered the days of Emperor Nimrod (known as Abaddon the Antichrist in Revelation). It is more likely that Quezlqotle, the Feathered Serpent, is a reference to Nimrod, or his father, Satan.

That is my hypothesis.

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

but wouldnt the chronology be

paleohebrews come to the new wolrd and settle in the gulf . forgetting ,or at least losing a lot of their history , morph into the olmecs

who rule until 200 bce or so

with the mayan coming onto the scene around 200 ad

now giving a +/- 200 year gap

it would seem that the the olmecs morphed to mayan around the same time as the resurrection

that would coincide with the olmecs , who it seems didnt worship gods per say , but "supernaturals"

after the resurrection we have Quetzalcoatl and the mayan ,

Quetzalcoatl it would seem to be a "jesus" like character .

now i am leaving out the aztecs but i would think that if Quetzalcoatl was just a

a reference to Nimrod, or his father, Satan.

then he would have been on the scene before year 0

which is around when he seems to show up

The worship of a feathered serpent is first known documented in Teotihuacan in the first century BCE or first century CE.

Double

a reply to: Another_Nut

Ill have to do more research on Quezlqotl, Im not too familiar with the mainstream timeline, nor to I trust mainstream information on the subject of MesoAmerica. The Vatican has tampered with too much of its history.

As far as the Hebrews in the ancient Americas, I have my doubts. The Phoenicians were the ones known for global sea travel. That would explain why the Mesoamericans had glyphs depicting elephants. It is also interesting that the Central and South Americans still eat tamales to this day, which is also a Indian dish to the Tamil people. This indicates that the Pheonicians may have cross traded with the Tamils and MesoAmerican colonies. The Hebrews would not have willingly left Jerusalem, as the Law required multiple pilgramages per year. The only occasions that the Hebrews would have been forced from the Land, were during the Assyrian exile, the Babylonian exile, or the Roman exile. The Assyrians scattered the Hebrews accross Assyrian controlled territories. I dont know of any indication that Assyria had contact with MesoAmerica. The Babylonians simply enslaved the Hebrews of Judah, and eventually let them all return to Jerusalem. By the time Rome scattered the Hebrews of Judea, Carthage was long gone and the Spaniard were probably under Roman control. At that time, it is unlikely that Rome knew how to get to MesoAmerica. Those secrets probably died with Carthage. It is this long period of disconnection from the Middle East that allowed the Native Americans to difuse and establish their own languages and cultures. This explains the Quezlcotl mythology and paganism.

The apparent parallels between Jesus and Quetzlcotl do not suprise me. If Quetzlcotl is Nimrod (Antichrist), then he is also Osiris who ressurected into Horus. The Anti-christ is exactly what it says...the counterfeit of Christ. That would mean, that Quetzlcotl would have to mimic the messianic prophecies in some way.

This is why Osiris/Isis/Horus trinity is depicted as descending upon the 13 layer pyramid on the back of the dollar bill. The pyramid represents the fulfillment of the last 13 Katuns 9/16/2016. The Powers That Be expect the return of their messiah, Nimrod-Quetzlcotl in 2016, but Jesus can not return until 7 years after the Anti-Christ's rise.

Sorry, but I am a little late to the party. Got a lot of reading to catch up on.

All of the 2016 predictions and now this article is starting to creep me out!

The year 2016 sounds worse than 2012 which I never believed, but now I am wondering if 2016 may be different.

Thanks OP. Giving you a S&F and will read this tomorrow when I have some quite time.

a reply to: RunForTheHills

Im glad you enjoyed it, Im not really out to scare people, I sincerely believe that 9/16/2016 will be the rapture. If you wish to avoid the judgement that follows, simply believe that Jesus died for your sins on the cross. Nothing to worry about. If Im wrong, then life goes on as usual.

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

who killed jesus, romans or jews?

if anyones been given an accurate ending date they're not telling the rest of us , it wasn't 2012 that we know now

I wonder if people will be predicting some massive transformative event or catastrophe every few years for my whole life...

a reply to: ParasuvO

cling to the banana tree, try to control it as if you can eat all the banana's and watch others starve as the hoarded banana's you can't eat just rot. This is the course of control, the tree of bananas is everyone's... hoarding it for oneself with control brings oneself stress, constantly on guard to maintain what one deems rightfully theirs and guards it against all interlopers.

what is the difference between modern man and the ape we try to forget we are? hey maybe if another ape man were to offer water in exchange for a banana or two... that would be acceptable, because of the fear to leave this control of the tree to get water for oneself... are we any different now on the fundamental level in the way the world works?

if we cannot or refuse to recognize our ape like nature, then we will feel we have nothing to overcome and that is what keeps our feudal system going. The idea that we can control something and exclude others from it for our own benefit. Kinda a selfish existence yes? One that has to be kept by force yes? If we instead were bound together by empathy instead of greed, we would have compassion enough to share the bananas... in the group effort there would be prosperity more trees more cultivation and plenty of banana's and no fear to leave it for water by anyone.

While we squabble over our own made up problems, thinking we are somehow special and above animals either through some divinity(religion) or how much we've managed to rub different things in nature together and form an idea of words for the results(science). We are not above animals in either case, as we are all driven and triggered by the same drives and same effects unless there is an injury or abnormality. The interesting thing, is me thinking we are nothing as a species is something someone would call daft... and in my view those that think making up idea's and believing them to be reality with no evidence or repeatable proof, or that we have managed to pull enough crap out of the ground and rub it together with our opposable thumbs into present technology over countless years is somehow special making us above animals and nature; is what I call daft.

We are a species fighting not only over trees and bananas but over made up trees and made up bananas... like it really matters for existence. Well, the only thing it really matters to is society... because current society is dependent on animal nature to exist. The status quotient would fall apart. Those that rely on war to make money to exist... as much as most don't like war, to the soldier and all that depend on war to exist... need war to perpetuate their current level of existence. Many systems turn into the damn tree and banana scenario.

Are we seriously not smart enough to realize that we are in perpetual cycles, that cause our own suffering by clinging to such a system... or one that is forced on us through propaganda and lies so that we maintain it for someone else? Since we created these cycles and perpetuate them, then it is only reasonable that we make a personal effort to stop hoarding the bananas so we drop the poo and wash our hands of perpetuating these cycles that do nothing for us as a species except control, guard and deny others access to the tree unless they pay the price to do so... which in this day and age, being born directly into this system... you already owe them for the bananas? or that you must now learn, live, and operate by all the nonsense surrounded by others control of these made up trees and bananas, when all we really need is real bananas and trees, and if we work together plenty of bananas and water and no war, or starvation.

People yell ahhh! oil is going up in price ah! it's going down in price. Guess what? this ape doesn't care either way, because this ape didn't start the fire, this ape doesn't care about oil or the status quo it props up, this ape doesn't care about war, drugs, etc that props the status quo up or any other fake trees and bananas we do NOT NEED to exist or live happily without.

We are trained apes from womb to grave, thinking the worlds problems are our problems, trained to think we need wifi and cell phones etc. and are told this is special this is progress all this control and hoarding will get us to peace and prosperity one day. Stop trying to control the trees real and artificial and hoard all the bananas then we will have peace and prosperity.

When another one of us apes is born, it's just a new ape added to the cage, and when they try to climb for that natural right of a banana... it has more consequences than simply reaching out for it. That's a sickness is what it is, and it's one that we pass to every new ape coming into the cage, and how is based on some imaginary lines drawn into the dirt by some apes that decided a long time ago to control by those imaginary lines in the dirt.

Imagine this, you pick up a compass and you have magical hiking shoes and backpack that can cross anything and provides all you need for a journey, and you start walking South... and you keep walking, keep walking, next thing you know... some other apes are going to pounce on you. You say what the hell? I'm just walking here. They say; well you are now in another country and you do not belong here. You say, I didn't notice this ground here looks just the same as that over there, you have two arms and two legs and are an ape person just like me... so why can't I another ape person like you walk on this ground that looks the same as the ground as I was just on? They say; well that's just how it is... NO. it is how we've been trained.

But, wait we can't be trained because we aren't animals because we are divine, or we are too smart for that as a species... what arrogance, what insolence, to ones fellow ape peoples of the world. We are all in the same boat here... we are told we want this garbage, that we need this garbage, we live, fight, breed, and die over this garbage.

In my opinion it is a futility, to live a life thinking one has control over that system that is rigged, that programs people from cradle to grave, gives them a faulty purpose for living or even existing... one scant and mostly bereft of happiness, because we are trained to think to exist we need more than what we actually do, as a sole purpose to support the control and hoarding of things that originally belonged to all of us, and still does... what we have to do to cease this mindless control, is take it back.

What does it take to do this? First the majority of people have to realize the above in some form shape or fashion themselves... resolve to not buy into the nonsense and follow this programming, live their dreams and passions instead, and try to dismantle the status quo through a system it created only to perpetuate itself and grow stronger, not dismantle itself.

So, if you want to try to control all of this and change it? Be my guest, we as a species have been fighting this since we ate our first "banana" million s of years ago... if you want to live your life in peace, do it now who says you have to wait? You'll be dead by then... yes, finally a small victory for progress it seems, and out pops another head from the hydra, ground gained lost again. Rinse repeat over and over. How many wars have been fought, how many people have died? how many more wars will there be, and how many more will have to die for these made up ideals?

a reply to: TheJourney

I wonder if people will be predicting some massive transformative event or catastrophe every few years for my whole life...

Yes and other stupid people will believe them.
That is how we got religion.

Here is a list of end of the world predictions going back to 634BC.

a reply to: samkent

You may wake up one day and realize that you were terribly wrong. I only communicate the message I was given.

I've been continuing my research in this subject, and I have discovered various parts of my original theory to be flat wrong.

1) There is no longer a reason for me to believe that the solar year experienced a transition from 360 to 365 days.

2) There is no longer a reason for me to believe that Pope Gregory omitted 2 years from our Common Era dating system. NASA's lunar records reflect some kind of error.

3) While 9/16/2016 does seem to dovetail with the 12/21/2012 ending of the Mayan Calendar, I am unsure if the Solar Feast of Trumpets actually occurs on September 16th, or September 22nd. Either one can be the case at this point in my research.

I have new information straight from the Bible that I simply do not have the time or capacity to post or explain right now, but I did want to make note of my new conclusions thus far.

Is something pivotal going to happen this September? I am currently divided on that conclusion as well. If I am still here after September, then I well offer a full retraction, explanation and apology for any false information and/or assumptions that I may have mistakenly perpetuated.