People that suffer from dry mouth???

This is my first rant, because I, a person who doesn't watch ads if I can help it, just saw an ad for something called "Biotene" with the catchphrase "For people that suffer from dry mouth." They don't say what Biotene is, but slather the ad with biotene packages dripping water and looking like they're soaking in water.

All a dry mouth means is that you need water! It's one of the signs of dehydration. Your mouth dries up because other systems of the body need what little water you put into it, and distribute it to your heart and brain first. Sore muscles occur the same way, you don't have enough water in you, and the body takes what it has and moves it from non-life threatening areas to areas which need to stay hydrated. So a cramp in a muscle is telling you, drink water.

So what is Biotene??? Is this like Head-On, the weird drug sold a few years ago for restless leg syndrome (I don't know for sure, but maybe that's dehydration too. So much is.) which nobody I ever met knew what it was. Does anyone here know what that stuff was too??

Most to blame for not telling people to just drink water if you have a dry mouth (duh) are the tv networks which take these kinds of ads, which allow something like Biotine to be offered on the public airwaves. That certainly is the bottom line.

/ranting while walking away

reply to post by Aleister


i beg to differ as I have a friend who recently developed this problem and no amount of drinking water helps.

i guess it is a matter of degrees - up to a point dry mouth means just have some more water

after a certain point and if water does not help at all then you have a medical condition

reply to post by Aleister


i use a medication that dries out my mouth alot.

it has nothing to do with not drinking enough water.

besides... in a civilised society we don't have to drink water. that's what soda is for..

reply to post by kisskiss


Serious? Have you seen her or him drink large amounts of water? First I've heard of that. But do they use this Biotine product? Hey, might as well tell them about it. What is it??? I haven't looked it up yet, since this was a rant I just ranted.

EDIT: I looked at their website, and the words they use is it "relieves symptoms" of dry mouth. I couldn't even stay around long enough to look at the thing, I don't go on any advertising sites, so I was out of there. So it doesn't cure dry mouth, it relieves symptoms. Like cough medicine, which has been proven not to work.

OK, rant over, is this how the rant forum works?

Dry mouth can be an indicator of many things other than dehydration. Diabetes being one.

So my question is - how much sugar if any is in Biotine? For those suffering dry mouth resulting from undiagnosed diabetes - well that remedy might be more harmful than helpful.

CdT

Biotene actually has a Wikipedia page: en.wikipedia.org...

In addition to the active ingredient sodium monofluorophosphate in its toothpastes, all the products contain enzymes including glucose oxidase, lactoferrin, lactoperoxidase and lysozyme. The PBF (plaque biofilm) products also contain the enzymes mutanase and dextranase.

Somewhere in that soup is something which relieves the symptoms of dehydrated dry mouth.

I've seen Biotine on the shelves at Wally World. I thought it was a mouth wash.

reply to post by Aleister


i see my friend almost permanently drinking water and taking biotene

Biotene is sugar-free: it has to be, given that diabetics are one of the groups most likely to need it. Dry mouth is not a dry mouth: it's a medical condition (aka xerostomia) which can't be treated simply by downing gallons of water.

Old people are prone to it, and too high a fluid intake can be very dangerous for them in particular. My sister-in-law has dry mouth because of an autoimmune condition called Sjögren's syndrome.

Dry mouth increases the chance of tooth decay, which is why the Biotene range also includes toothpaste and a mouthwash.

My missus uses Biotene, it has enzymes that are naturally found in saliva.
It comes as a mouthwash, toothpaste and chewing gum.
It helps to keep the mouth hydrated and prevent mouth or tongue ulcers and tooth decay.
Many types of medication can also leave you with dry mouth or cotton mouth.

OK, it's helped people, and dry mouth isn't always just dehydration. But I still think a very high percentage of it is.

Maybe I misunderstood the rant forum, and since I brought my rant to the boards, and people have proven me wrong at least in some cases, I have been corrected and informed. Thank you for that.

This is the first I've heard of biotene (told you I didn't watch ads).

cyanides cause dry mouth. There are two ways to combat this. If you drink enough water and your kidneys are working proper.y, it will flush it out. Otherwise, eat or drink something containing theosulfate. An onion or grapefruit have this chemical. Also onion salt does, an ingredient in many things. Garlic works also but the composition is not as strong, it is better for arsenic poisoning.

Medicines cause this thirst because dying cells give off cyanides. Nothing to worry about, the kidneys should excrete this if they aren't compromised. If you break down muscles during exercise, the thirst is caused by the cyanide. Usually boosting metabolism during exercise causes the liver and kidneys to work more though. This helps excretion and the thirst is cured with water.

Many foods contain cyanides, if your body can free the cyanide off these foods than you get thirsty from them. Try eating a chokecherry. I can take the cyanide off of cranberries but the cyanide is bound to the geletin in canned cranberries sometimes so it doesn't make me thirsty if I eat those types. My wife can eat all sorts of cranberries with no problem. I die of thirst from them. Does anyone else get real thirsty on Thanksgiving? It's good if you plan on going to a keg party.

In diabetes, the death of cells from inflamation caused by something is causing cyanide to be released I think. It is a symptom of diabetes but does not mean you have diabetes.

reply to post by rickymouse


Really? I never knew this information, thanks. I was starting to feel bad that I'd put the rant up and then the thread is visited by an informative post such as yours.

Hi!
Dry mouth can also be a symptom of Celiac Disease.
It was for my hubby. He wasn't on any medications.
He actually bought Biotene after he saw it on TV.
Helped for about half an hour!
When I read the ingredients I was a little worried.
He has some weird allergies, plus they always say, 'If you can't pronounce it...'!

I wish we would have known it was a symptom back when it started!
Maybe he would have been diagnosed faster, instead of suffering for years!
And being treated for things he didn't even have!

You have to keep in mind, if a symptom is that extreme,
that it's interfering with your daily life,
it's probably not your run of the mill, simple cause & easy fix!

I've read that more people are developing Celiac all the time,
& there are many going undiagnosed too.
Maybe that's one of the reasons why there's a market for Biotene!

Our bodies give us all kinds of signs & hints to potential problems.
If only we would learn to pay attention!
WOQ

reply to post by wasobservingquietly


That is one of the many symptoms I had. It took me 10 years to get a diagnosis.
You wouldn't catch me dead with out my trust 2 liter water bottle. My mouth was always dry and I was always thirsty. No diabetes. Was tested a dozen times.

I was certainly not dehydrated. I went in for an ultrasound one to try and discover the reason behind my amenorrhea and was told to drink a quart of water before going in. I was in so much agony and when they did the ultrasound they told me that they tell people to drink that much because most people are dehydrated before going in and their body absorbs most of it and they need the bladder to be full.
They said I was probably as hydrated as a person can get so it all went straight to my bladder.
Funny thing was I was still thirsty.

Once I went gluten free, both symptoms including many others went away.

reply to post by Aleister


I would have loved to have seen that commercial just to see the long list of side-effects caused by this drug. They usually spend half of a 30 second commercial explaining side-effects...they speak them very fast too.

Freaking pharmaceutical companies will make a drug for anything, and once they get you started they treat the side-effects with other drugs.

On the other hand, these commercials piss me off at the same time.

reply to post by Corruption Exposed


Yes, and on the "side effect" section of the ads they not only speak fast but try to distract people by showing on screen happy-happy cartoons, or people running all smiles in the sun, or a dog leaping for a stick - can't go wrong with a dog to distract the low-information consumer.

I've used Biotene for a while. My migraine medication tends to cause dry mouth when I take it for an attack. The medication is a vasoconstrictor and that seems to cause the dry mouth. The Biotene mouth spray helps enormously for daytime episodes, and the mouthwash is useful if I'm medicating just before bed.

And I know I'm not dehydrated because my daily med can cause kidney stone, so I make sure I drink all I need plus more every day to keep the system flushed.

reply to post by Aleister


A few weeks ago I'm cooking in the kitchen and Mom has a basketball game on the tv. Commercial comes on and it was something akin to this:

Side effects may include your head popping off at the neck, your kidneys may turn to stone, your feet may turn backwards, your lungs may fall out, sudden death, and if you mix this medication with anything else, sudden death may occur again. Etc, etc.

This was basically the whole commercial. I've heard these types of things before, but never on this level. It went on for about 45 seconds. I'd bet they were advertising a drug that helps with, oh, I dunno, bruised eyelids or some other nonsensical "disease" that MUST be fixed with their awful drugs. If you don't go get the drugs then you are in violation of society and must be put to death is the way I hear these commercials, all for nothing. I like my restless legs and ain't a gonna take any drugs for it. They can go to hell, hopefully after choking on their worthless drugs.

It was more than disgusting, to say the least.