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With all do respect Tenth. I don't live in Canada.
I believe in a free market system. That doesn't mean Free stuff for people. Healthcare is a corporate product just like anything else.
I don't want my government telling me what corporate products I 'need'.
The single payer crapola is just another means of control to hang over peoples heads, and most people who want that use demagoguery to villify anyone who thinks otherwise.
Besides Canada doesn't have anywhere near the population of the US does.
America is just not structured to accept single-payer.
My health is no longer my responsibility. My health is now under the control of the state. So the state can make determinations as to my salt intake, my smoking, my drinking, my diet.
tothetenthpower
reply to post by beezzer
America is just not structured to accept single-payer.
That's like saying I can't make an intersection here because the street is a bit too far off.
Anything can be done or set up to be a certain way.
My health is no longer my responsibility. My health is now under the control of the state. So the state can make determinations as to my salt intake, my smoking, my drinking, my diet.
See though. This scenario doesn't exist in my Country with a single payer system, so why would it in yours?
Why would it become harder and be this huge problem? Because you all let it, that's why.
I get it, you all are afraid of government, it's fine, you really should be in the US.
But don't just rail against something as being the end all, be all, when you've never tried, nor even attempted to explore the ramifications both economically and socially.
Healthcare is like one of the only things that I'm happy to pay higher taxes for because it's important.
Without that, my family would be living on the streets trust me.
It's about how you create and then manage the program, not about the program being a bad idea in it's entirety.
~Tenth
So you willfully ignore successful public programs because they didn't get made in your country?
And I pay for it via my taxes every week. Same as you would to the private company who issues your policy. T
I actually KNOW for a fact that the government isn't going to 'screw up' my coverage and I won't be able to get services rendered.
They don't. You NEED healthcare
That doesn't make any sense at all.
Do I seem like I'm trying to villify you for your thoughts and opinions?
ike I said, it's not perfect. Better than what you guys have though.
neo96
reply to post by tothetenthpower
With all do respect Tenth. I don't live in Canada.
I believe in a free market system. That doesn't mean Free stuff for people. Healthcare is a corporate product just like anything else.
I don't want my government telling me what corporate products I 'need'.
The single payer crapola is just another means of control to hang over peoples heads, and most people who want that use demagoguery to villify anyone who thinks otherwise.
Besides Canada doesn't have anywhere near the population of the US does.
neo96
reply to post by tothetenthpower
With all do respect Tenth. I don't live in Canada.
I believe in a free market system. That doesn't mean Free stuff for people. Healthcare is a corporate product just like anything else.
I don't want my government telling me what corporate products I 'need'.
The single payer crapola is just another means of control to hang over peoples heads, and most people who want that use demagoguery to villify anyone who thinks otherwise.
Besides Canada doesn't have anywhere near the population of the US does.
neo96
If anything medicaid, and medicare need to be done away with since it costs over 1 trillion dollars, and 'insures' over 100+ million Americans.
Well if you guys are happy with haveing some oof the the worst healthcare in the developed world more power to you.
crazyewok
neo96
If anything medicaid, and medicare need to be done away with since it costs over 1 trillion dollars, and 'insures' over 100+ million Americans.
And what happens to the poor and old unable to afford healthcare? Goodbye die quietly?
You may as well put a bullet in there heads yourself.
sheepslayer247
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
I don't believe that was/is the goal. If the US goes to a single-payer system, it would effectively leave the insurance companies high and dry. That is not and would not be acceptable in the pro-corporate fascist world of politics and business.
A single-payer system would be the best way to go, but those in charge and those that would be effected will do everything they can to make sure it does not come about.
neo96
I do?
Then prey tell wonder I went over 30 years without that so called need. Besides every employer I have ev
neo96
Read that on the internets ?
Why yes anything that people have to pay for is obviously 'the worst'.
Blah.
neo96
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Hears a thought:
Go take care of them instead of outsourcing to a government. Then pat themselves on the back thinking they give a crap about their 'fellow man'.
crazyewok
neo96
Read that on the internets ?
Why yes anything that people have to pay for is obviously 'the worst'.
Blah.
Stop acting so dense. Your skilled in missing the point.
No these are real studies and surveys that evaluate quality of care, life expectancy and value for money.
edit on 14-12-2013 by crazyewok because: (no reason given)
crazyewok
neo96
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Hears a thought:
Go take care of them instead of outsourcing to a government. Then pat themselves on the back thinking they give a crap about their 'fellow man'.
Thsi is the problem.
I dont have the money to pay for someones $500,000 course of Chemo. I would need a few thousand to donate with me.