I was wrong - god may exist. So... about my revelations cypher theory

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You know what Tsingtao - since you said that I've had a realization. If I did continue to post information like this - how would that make them feel? Jesus kept at it for years until they did something about it. But I am not jesus, I'm just a messanger. I've been doing this since 2004. So - I'll take your advice Tsingtao. A guy at Job Corp's said they knew who I was but I didn't listen because I wasn't ready. I'm not perfect at realizing but I make up for it in other areas. thanks for saying that Tsingtao. You are much appreciated! Without you I'd probably be dead, oh well... This will be my last time talking like this to an open crowd about this. Be peaceful.

I was wrong - god may exist. So... about my revelations cypher theory

This thread deserves a star and a flag if for no other reason then the fact that you said 'I was wrong...' and you even put it in the thread title. That is a RARE thing to see on a discussion board. KUDOS to you.

God does exist.
Read my Iridium thread
Its the only explanation.

St Udio
vethumanbeing

veteranhumanbeing
I like the notion of amused/bemused; and jumping in at a point within my stream of consciousness observed and reaction (conversation) that adds to No THING or builds upon something that could define EVERYTHING. As you say the coherence of 'understanding' is pure chance and beautiful when it happens (poetic). Why not an anarchy within a thread as long as is still on topic; Mental GYMNASTICS to take something (ideawise) somewhere else FREEFORMED exponentially expressed. I would hope for that in a thread Id created (its a rare gem when happens) as I dont know how to polish it up and make it shiny enough to endure critisism.

St Udio
That kind of exercse is (or should be) devoted to a creative a writing course in a University environment...
whats going on is a high-jacking of scholarly debate---
IOWs a high-jacking very much simiiar to the 0bama intrusion into the WH & Presidency Kapisch ?

It could be there within a 'comparitive literature' course. I think the problem is that poetry accomplishes part of it, but no one sees its relevance addressing 'freeform abstraction' and cannot put the two together. James Joyce, Pynchon are too obtuse (maybe a moderday) course that combines pop culture, say 'Mad Magazine' circa 60s-70s' collides with Tom Wolfe, Ken Kesey and Hunter S. Thompson. Obamas manning the PULPIT, his cabinet is/are the pulpit masters. Scholarly debate mouthed by brand new creations of a PuppetMuppet constituancy. Whos behind the (Couch/Crouching on their knees) holding those hard wires directing the hand/arm/head/eyeblink movements. 'The Cabinets' goal is to destroy this socio-economic system as it naturally occures (capitalist) and replace it with something they think is more desirable (socialism/communisum) which is proven NOT TO WORK over and over and over documented historical time. NEVER HAS WORKED (except Canada maybe-a challenging place to live on Earth (as we dont have to have jobs);hey we have a small CHEAP film industry in Vancouver, YOU take advantage of and many of our comedians left to stake out untold Riches in the USA, dont knock our national heathcare even though there are only 75,000,000 more or less (who knows who cares and who counts/we are French afterall living under English Queen Elisabeths rule, confusing enough) Canadians living within our borders compared to your 350,000,000 million; at least we CAN TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN (there is that problem of the 'Dudley Do-Right' Nell creature and Horse cartoon, we dont understand its implications regarding childrens potencial attitudes, unless they may want to draft dodge).

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He Which Is All Who Is Whatever He Wants does not assume,

godlover25
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godlover25
He Which Is All Who Is Whatever He Wants does not assume,

He Which is All;(Would be whom).
Is All who is whatever; (Could be all).
He wants does not assume;(To be anyone).

reply to post by vethumanbeing


Exodus 3:13-15 Then Moses said to God, “Indeed, when I come to the children of Israel and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they say to me, ‘What is His name?’ what shall I say to them?”

And God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.” And He said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’”
Moreover God said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: ‘The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.’

in other words, another way to say the same thing;

And God said, "At first say unto them, 'I am THE BEING', that, when they have learnt that there is a difference between THE BEING and that-that-is-not, they may be further taught that there is no name whatever that can properly be assigned to Me, to whom only belongs the existence,

The Ineffable God that we Christians worship in spirit and truth is Spirit, the Spirit is literally the Existence,

God Is the Being,

God is consciousness,

God is the Universe,

Acts 17:24-27 “God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands... He has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings, so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us;
for in Him we live and move and have our being.


God bless

godlover25
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God Is the Being,
God is consciousness,
God is the Universe,

Acts 17:24-27 “God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands... He has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings, so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us;
for in Him we live and move and have our being.God bless

Im always available to listen to scripture. However,
'Psalms 46.2-4' says; "And so we need not fear even if the world blows up and the mountains crumble into the sea. Let the oceans roar and foam; let the mountains tremble. There is a river of joy flowing through the city of our God--the sacred home of the God above all gods." We dont have to grope for IT/HIM at all as it AWAITS US this kingdom of ITS in perfection (and it does not exist upon Earth).

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"just keep walkin" , quote from firefly, or serenity, who really remembers

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God is no longer an impersonal force,

Maybe for most of humanity back in 4,000 B.C. and before then He was, but He began revealing Himself to individual people and groups of people with more regularity starting with Noah, He began to establish a people for Himself with Abraham, and He accomplished setting aside an entire nation of peoples for Himself through Moses and Aaron around 1,400 B.C., by 1,000 B.C. His nation was an established Monarchy under King David and a thriving nation of Israel, and when the time had come to send His Only Begotten Son Jesus Christ into the world, he Incarnated Himself by the power of the Holy Spirit overshadowing a Temple Virgin named Mary around ~4 B.C., we have an Image of God to look up, the author and finisher of our faith, Jesus Christ, Jesus is a very personal Lord, NOT a vague impersonal force, and God is both transcendent and immanent, He is not in a far off dimension (well, He is) but he doesn't ONLY exist there, He says that Heaven is his THRONE but Earth is His footstool.

God bless

godlover25
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godlover25
God is no longer an impersonal force,
Maybe for most of humanity back in 4,000 B.C. and before then He was, but He began revealing Himself to individual people and groups of people with more regularity starting with Noah, He began to establish a people for Himself with Abraham.

This may well be; but in other forms spoke to other civilizations (they seeing the IAM as not being a terrestial being) but far above them in abilities and scope of understanding. Truely a 'god figure'. If God decided to individuate itself I can understand sending a PRIME number 'messenger' as a fully 9d form to teach these things.
So, selected a locale in which to do this using a Jesus format to do so. Obviously if God walks amoung us in the form of Jesus he is not a complacent god anymore. However; we are all God aspect and our 'dimmer switch' is at a lower setting; so Jesus was sent as the enlightenner. Jesus may well the "finisher" of Gods Thought Process but this was 2000 years ago and civilizations have changed somewhat; sped up radically. Why has there been no newer version of Jesus sent to us that resonates with the digital/virtual world of xboxs we relate to? Mohammed came, as a very influencial teacher, is he to be denighed?

godlover25
He accomplished setting aside an entire nation of peoples for Himself through Moses and Aaron around 1,400 B.C., by 1,000 B.C. His nation was an established Monarchy under King David and a thriving nation of Israel, and when the time had come to send His Only Begotten Son Jesus Christ into the world, he Incarnated Himself by the power of the Holy Spirit overshadowing a Temple Virgin named Mary around ~4 B.C., we have an Image of God to look up, the author and finisher of our faith, Jesus Christ, Jesus is a very personal Lord, NOT a vague impersonal force, and God is both transcendent and immanent, He is not in a far off dimension (well, He is) but he doesn't ONLY exist there, He says that Heaven is his THRONE but Earth is His footstool.

I find this uncomforably offensive godlover25; Charles1952s recent thread about 'why all the hatred of catholics' is very fitting. What happens to Buddha, Mohammed in this senario? forgotten or treated as Demi-Gods, Buddhists, Moslems, Hindus embrace the idea of a "Christ Conscousness (Jesus)". I understand the 'stepping down' or lowering of frequencies for these major beings to manifest but why can there only be ONE that describes Gods vision when there are billions upon this planet whom humbly (without knowing express its unique individuality; down to the lower life forms; operating at an even dimmer switch/awareness setting). Salutations to you as well; VHB.

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How could you find it offensive then recommend a thread to me defending Catholic Christians? I myself am a Catholic Christian and what I write comes from a Catholic Christian perspective....

Sorry if I offended you in anyways,

God bless

godlover25
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How could you find it offensive then recommend a thread to me defending Catholic Christians? I myself am a Catholic Christian and what I write comes from a Catholic Christian perspective....Sorry if I offended you in anyways,
God bless

What I found scary was your LACK OF deliniation of significant foundations of faith; you did not include all of them existing within Christriandom: (hinduism, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism,etc). You cannot offend me; as I am YOU. What was in my Christmas box this morning; the only bible I dont have; "The King James Version" (THE REALLY MEAN ONE). So here we go comparing and contrasting to all the others in my library (one is the Catholic Version, another is Lutheran, etc) My mother understands my sense of humor (I guess). Tomorrow I will be looking for "The Book of Thomas" IN THE King James Version; NOT THERE JUST IN THE GNOSTIC TEXTS: (Haghammati Library BIBLE). None of this makes sense to me, we seem to have to struggle too hard for simple TRUTHS. Who are we and why are we here (I know why). Why are you a Catholic?