Breaking: Kim Jong Un's uncle has been executed

reply to post by maddy21


Remember the NK food aid programme maddy?

Food for no nuke programme?...look where that got us, NK has nukes and now can threaten anyone in the region..and do so quite often.

It's possible that China may at some point use NK as a proxy, to start a devastating conflict while being two-faced 'trying' to appear as an arbiter for peace in the ensuing chaos.

They'd be insane to do so. Not only would all sides suffer terribly, but the ruse will not go unnoticed by Western agents and the West will of course retaliate against China and it's bastard child NK.

China values money and economic progress above everything else, if they intended to become 'backseat drivers' in a nuclear war using NK as a proxy, their economy will be devastated regardless of who gets the upper hand militarily (IF anyone does actually come out on top, which is quite doubtful), so who knows.

I'm hoping China will divorce NK for fear of what they will do to China's world standing. China has worked hard to get to where they are now, and it could all be lost because of fatso and his loony-goons in NK..looked at as a business proposition, NK is a very bad investment for China and ought to be wound up, so to speak.

reply to post by maddy21
the kid is not that much a kid anymore. Dictators have become such younger. Lifting sanctions is OK, how about giving up nukes? NK said it would never do it. NK doesn't have the Chinese restraint. It is the chosen role of the mad man that will shoot first. It has been sacrificed the day the nuclear Pandora box has been opened to NK. As Castro at the time. Castro grew older and wiser. Now we have a cynical regime with ironic icon at the top. It already goes to self destruction mode taking into hell many others.

After the dramatic brutal change in North Korea we can assume everything.

If we assume the worst scenario projected in time, i.e. North Korean first nuclear strike on a number of targets in Asia-Pacific, the real benefactor will be only China. NK is sacrificed already. I don't know how exactly but perhaps the nuclear secrets were given by China. Who benefits, ask the Romans. The Chinese do.

Russia will not and cannot approve ever a first use of nuclear weapons against non nuclear states, such as South Korea and Japan. Russia will never be so mad to stand behind and support a crazy suicide North Korean regime that plays the scapegoat for China. (Parliament and Putin signed these days sanctions against North Korea voted long ago by UNSC).

In any such dramatic circumstances Russia can only condemn a first strike, even more a nuclear first strike. The positions of Russia and North Korea desperately go in different directions. So are the positions of China and Russia. China wanted Russia's backing for, frankly, a ICBM attack on USA, according to defected spies such as Lunev. "China provides the manpower, Russia the ICBMs". Lunev claimed the 48 states were promised to China after the successfull first strike, with Russia taking for itself only Alaska.

That didn't happen. And won't happen. Because it will be Russia to take back the counter strike. China apparently doesn't care of millions less Chinese. Russia does care of its population. Any such counter strikeit will be devastating for the European part of Russia that is pretty flat. And is the most developed part of the country. Several bombs will make it uninhabitable and infertile for decades if not more.

Let alone the karma or the curse of generations to come for using nuclear weapons first in sneak attack on USA. So Russia tries to get out of that scenario and probably will get out of it, unless directly attacked.

In a case of North Korean-South Korean-Japan -China war, I put my bet on neutral Russia. Even if USA takes part in it according to its treaty obligations.

The events may develop into a Chinese-Russian antagonism as easy as they now look so unusually friendly. Let not forget they were frosty only 24 years ago. Remember Putin did the biggest drill in post Soviet time in the Far East next to the Chinese border. In case of a massive Chinese invasion along the long Northern border, he can't just "nuke them" on Russian territory. China also has nukes that are terribly close to Russian major cities. The other countries will stay and watch. Or may be they won't. May be at one moment USA will side with Russia against China. If the core European civilization is at stake. If it means a post-WW3 Chinese dominance and NWO led by China. It isn't gonna happen. But it is in the plans of some.

How that connects to the topic - it is just the possible projection in the future. Today's change in North Korea is the most brutal communist change on the top, may be after Mao's Gang of four. USSR never killed so hi level politicians out of envy and outrage. It let them die natural death, mostly natural. What we witness in North Korea is a next low level of merciless acts that go against human logic. Perhaps a sure sign the mad men there will sacrifice themselves and their nation in the name of their eternal leaders and bright future. You remember the NK subs and sailors killed in SK beaches. Those people are crazy.

reply to post by MysterX


Food Aid is nothing compared to economic sanctions , Its clearly the U.S which is interested in mentioning the Ceasefire and not accept peace which the north Koreans have offered ..

US has been invading one country after another non stop citing ridicules humanitarian or any other reasons since its independence , Nukes seems to be the only weapons keeping U.S at bay ...

reply to post by 2012newstart


KId or no kid...he has no control over what happens in that country ...The Generals control the nation not him .. He is neither fit nor the kind of person who can run a tyrannical govt. considering the education he has received and the kind of person he is ...

He was not groomed to be the leader , his elder brother Kim Jong-nam was groomed to be the leader by Kimg jong il

reply to post by angryhulk


One of his "many transgressions": "Not clapping loudly enough"

I'm not even joking. That's what happens when you put a teen in charge of an already-mad country.

reply to post by angryhulk


I don't think this kid is anyone to laugh at. History has shown us that deranged megalomaniacs have a habit of doing as much damage as they can and taking as many people as they can with them when they know they are cornered and on the way out. What is scary to me is in an act of desparation ,they could target Fukushima and cause a catastrophic event if they were to target the spent fuel pool with conventional weapons, could cause a radiation event that would affect the whole Northern hemisphere, If the guy truly comes unglued and knows he is going to die, what is to prevent him from doing something crazy?

reply to post by Iqarus


Of course they are leftist. Socialist are leftist because they believe in big government so they can control everything.

i wouldn't be surprised if Kim didn't last another year.

he is sending a message and people in his regime, will think twice.

amfirst1
reply to post by Iqarus

 

Of course they are leftist. Socialist are leftist because they believe in big government so they can control everything.

Erm, right. Ok. And fascists don't?

First rule in taking over is to eliminate the competition. Pay no heed to the fact it is a relative that's an even better reason to eliminate them. Consolidate power and remove them from history. They or their ideas can't threaten anyone when they never existed. Seems like a typical behavior for a tyrant. Puts the common folk under more fear too. Lots of positives looking down from the top. Especially if they had any dirt to throw your direction.

reply to post by angryhulk


I wouldn't want to be this guys paperboy. Especially around collection time.

reply to post by Tarzan the apeman.


I certainly wouldn't want to be the guy that phones his house as part of a telemarketing scheme to sell him cheaper windows.