Apartheid actually is still in effect in a lot of countries.

Whenever we see things like Nelson mandela supposedly overcoming the odds and ending Apartheid, I find that hard to believe. There's still tons of countries that have that. Some are:

South africa
USA
Greece
Japan,

and many many more. Racism is still rampant. They no longer call it Apartheid instead they call it "living in the projects" or being an "illegal immigrant". All that's happened is the label has changed on it. But as for actual change it's next to non existent.

So I think it's fake when they say that NM was a hero etc etc. All they did is free him so they could make him into a puppet and give him new orders under the trickery of saying that Apartheid has been eradicated.

total bs in my opinion. They always do that, they make it look like some power structure has been done away with, when instead it's just gone into a bit of hiding.

what do you think?

reply to post by spartacus699


You forgot Israel. How could you forget Israel?

Well i slightly disagree because Aparthied was like Jim Crow on steroids but to your point you can only get rid of the overt policy but not the feelings or ideologies of the oppressors they just get more insidious and covert

reply to post by spartacus699


You can't eliminate Racism with laws. That requires the ignorant to educate themselves. But then there would be some groups out there *There always is* claiming the right to do and believe as they see fit. Which is true within reason but does not give them the right to put others down simply based on their own insecurities and fears.

I'll borrow the following phrase...

"It's progress not perfection"

Still have a ways to go imho.

reply to post by spartacus699


What is a apartheid?

What is your definition of that?

13th Zodiac
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You forgot Israel. How could you forget Israel?

true. But that's a bit different as they're constantly being attacked so what are they suppose to do? Just sit around and take it up the butt?

How dare those Japanese try to remain Japanese on Japanese soil? Racists!!!!!!

wingsfan
How dare those Japanese try to remain Japanese on Japanese soil? Racists!!!!!!

What does nationalism have to do with race?

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They are constantly ATTACKING not being attack...LOL

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sounds like they take after their masters the you es quite well. big dog teaching lil dog

spartacus699

13th Zodiac
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You forgot Israel. How could you forget Israel?

true. But that's a bit different as they're constantly being attacked so what are they suppose to do? Just sit around and take it up the butt?

Ah So Apartheid IS ok in some circumstances?
so who decides when it's ok and when it's not?
why in your opinion is racism allowed by some governments and not others?
Some would consider Illegal Immigrants a big problems for some countries, as you say, take it up their butts, but what they do is wrong, where as Israels form of Apartheid is ok?
Is that not Apatheid of Governements, some are treated differently to others?

The Civil Rights Movement in America was not trying to get rid of racism, but just to end legal segregation. Mandela tried to do the same in South Africa. There is no way to rid the world of racism, just ways to make sure that the racism of someone in power cannot deter the legal rights and legal decisions of anyone else.

when a country stops people marrying throws them off the land stops the water and services and makes people .travel in different parts of a bus now where can that be happening on the planet .

yet when in my country i am expected to ACT civil to those same people who would treat me like dirt in theirs

reply to post by Aleister


OP's premise is incorrect. Unlike Aparthied in SA, there are no racial laws in the US or institutionalized racism. Certainly we have our share of bigots, but the government is not "keeping minorities down." As for immigration, it is illegal immigration that is the issue in debate--the legal aspects of it, not the racial.

NavyDoc
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OP's premise is incorrect. Unlike Aparthied in SA, there are no racial laws in the US or institutionalized racism. Certainly we have our share of bigots, but the government is not "keeping minorities down." As for immigration, it is illegal immigration that is the issue in debate--the legal aspects of it, not the racial.

There sure used to be racial laws in the U.S. It took many years of work, both inside and outside of governmental and movement circles, to change them. Not many exist now, although the new way of dealing with voting rights seems to be an end-around to reinstate some of them, but the U.S. Justice Department is checkmating many of those.

Aleister

NavyDoc
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OP's premise is incorrect. Unlike Aparthied in SA, there are no racial laws in the US or institutionalized racism. Certainly we have our share of bigots, but the government is not "keeping minorities down." As for immigration, it is illegal immigration that is the issue in debate--the legal aspects of it, not the racial.

There sure used to be racial laws in the U.S. It took many years of work, both inside and outside of governmental and movement circles, to change them. Not many exist now, although the new way of dealing with voting rights seems to be an end-around to reinstate some of them, but the U.S. Justice Department is checkmating many of those.

Not saying that we had bad things in our past, just that these things do not exist now.

As for voting issues, I think that it is glib to say that those are "racist" programs--"racism" seems the default accusation with anything the left disagrees with and it is overused. The idea behind voter ID it to keep the integrity of the system--one citizen, one vote.

spartacus699
Whenever we see things like Nelson mandela supposedly overcoming the odds and ending Apartheid, I find that hard to believe. There's still tons of countries that have that. Some are:

South africa
USA
Greece
Japan,

and many many more. Racism is still rampant. They no longer call it Apartheid instead they call it "living in the projects" or being an "illegal immigrant". All that's happened is the label has changed on it. But as for actual change it's next to non existent.

What a load of BS, that's what I think. "Illegal immigrant" is a "victim" of apartheid? In this country? Don't be a sap.

Hay and by the way white Afrikaners were illegal immigrants to. Wheres the love?

Aleister

NavyDoc
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OP's premise is incorrect. Unlike Aparthied in SA, there are no racial laws in the US or institutionalized racism. Certainly we have our share of bigots, but the government is not "keeping minorities down." As for immigration, it is illegal immigration that is the issue in debate--the legal aspects of it, not the racial.

There sure used to be racial laws in the U.S. It took many years of work, both inside and outside of governmental and movement circles, to change them. Not many exist now, although the new way of dealing with voting rights seems to be an end-around to reinstate some of them, but the U.S. Justice Department is checkmating many of those.

Coming back around after all these years and all we have been through as a nation to rectify these problems and dumping the apartheid label on america is simply hate speech. In fact I cannot expresses my feelings for this dozy liberal divisionism without using very foul language.