The Exodus Telltale

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There is about 3 grams of iron in our blood, coloring the blood red. Knowing there is about 5 liters of blood in your body, you don't need much of it if you shovel it into the waterways at the right spots, and you wouldn't need nearly as much to dye water red. Like I said there's a lot of red henna soil in Egypt, henna is among other things used to dye fabrics and hair, nails and eye lashes. There was and is plenty of iron oxide available along the Nile, a handful men could easily make the Nile red.

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These photos really lend nothing to the point. Besides the ark wasn't carried like that. It was carried by two men in the front on each side holding a large pole that ran through ring down the side of the ark.

the red water thing must've been some kind of repeat ecological event because, in the egyptian text, legend of the destruction of mankind, it says hathor, during her murderous rampage, was walking around in blood and water and in the book of revelation it says the blood would be up to the horses reins. since there's not that much blood on the whole planet, i think its somehow related to volcanic activity

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Go to www.touregypt.net... and see the Anubis shrine. Mosly made the same way as the gold ark, and made to be carried the exact same manner.

Utnapisjtim
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There is about 3 grams of iron in our blood, coloring the blood red. Knowing there is about 5 liters of blood in your body, you don't need much of it if you shovel it into the waterways at the right spots, and you wouldn't need nearly as much to dye water red. Like I said there's a lot of red henna soil in Egypt, henna is among other things used to dye fabrics and hair, nails and eye lashes. There was and is plenty of iron oxide available along the Nile, a handful men could easily make the Nile red.

Source: www.lenntech.com...

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I suppose an army of Hebrew assassins also killed all of the first born in Egypt in one night. Even stealing into the Royal palace and killing the Kings son.

the tradition of killing the first born was because they were the best genetic sampling from both parents, and also because of the right of royals to forcibly take the virginity of brides on the eves of their weddings to their actual husbands to be. this meant lots of heirs to the throne, and in the case of nephilim lore, where the royal is a nephilim, the child from this union would be a hybrid as well, and the husband would be forced to raise him/her as if he/she was his own child.

Logarock

I suppose an army of Hebrew assassins also killed all of the first born in Egypt in one night. Even stealing into the Royal palace and killing the Kings son.

Exactly how it happened, I don't know, but lets say that being a first-born son in Egypt brought about responsibility the other children didn't have, being a first-born had religious implications and at times they were gathered to eat a sacrificial meal annualy. Nice place to poison them with ricin or other agents available to Moses &al. Or are you saying miracles and the Angel of Death is a more plausible explanation?

anybody remember abraham having to give sarah to pharaoh?

hellooo. anybody home? more reading of bible (check hebrew words) you must do

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Nope.

Nope and Nope.

God has far more self respect than to allow puny games to stand in for His Power.

HE LOVED to stack the deck against Himself and His people and then to come through for them dramatically in the nick of time. It seems to be a major hobby of His.

But, hey, perhaps He'll find such silly rationalizations humorous.

Though, I doubt it.

I gather you've not seen the video of the secret discoveries in Sinai.

Another hobby of God's is to say what He means and mean what He says--particularly about some things.

Your narrative would evidently have Pharoah and all his army and horses drowning in a few inches of water. LOLOL.

Utnapisjtim

Logarock

I suppose an army of Hebrew assassins also killed all of the first born in Egypt in one night. Even stealing into the Royal palace and killing the Kings son.

Exactly how it happened, I don't know, but lets say that being a first-born son in Egypt brought about responsibility the other children didn't have, being a first-born had religious implications and at times they were gathered to eat a sacrificial meal annualy. Nice place to poison them with ricin or other agents available to Moses &al. Or are you saying miracles and the Angel of Death is a more plausible explanation?

Yes or just scrap the whole story.

i agree the ark was egyptian in design. the hyksos pharaohs were hebrew, however. the exodus is the hyksos expulsion. the pharaoh at the time was ahmose, who moses was named after.
the temple of solomon was like a stylized copy of the sphinx temple, which we are not being allowed to see the interior of in these times. all the esoteric orgs believe there's a mammoth underground temple and library there. this is likely one of those times when they are right, although i'm not convinced that the temple itself is underground, it wouldn't surprise me



the video says the depiction of the israelites entering egypt initially, says they were the
"ahmo" which he said translated to "god's people"
realize that in egyptian "ah" meant god. ptah, iah, jehovah, hayah (hayah asher hayah), etc and is a variant spell of
Ea, pronounced Ayah.

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anybody remember abraham having to give sarah to pharaoh?

hellooo. anybody home? more reading of bible (check hebrew words) you must do

Are you making a case for other plagues and misfortunes?

Logarock

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anybody remember abraham having to give sarah to pharaoh?

hellooo. anybody home? more reading of bible (check hebrew words) you must do

Are you making a case for other plagues and misfortunes?

what? no i'm talking about the rights of kings.
okay let's backtrack a bit to sumer. kings weren't originally part of the political landscape. kingship descended to earth from heaven, it says. this is the beginning of the nephilim stories.
pharaoh exercised his right to take abraham's wife, as the king, it was a kingly tradition. heck it even happened in britain and other european countries. epic of gilgamesh, same thing.

so the first born of lands with kings, were almost always, nephilim hybrids. so when an invading king took over another king's land, he killed the first born hybrids as they were the offspring of the former king.

Logarock
Yes or just scrap the whole story.

Ah, either it is magic or it wrecks the story. Believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny as much as you like, but the truth is slightly less fun. Disinfo is much easier to tolerate than conspiracies and plots to kill of a generation of Egyptians as revenge for the Egyptians killing off the Israeli first-borns. One surviving such was Moses himself.

Utnapisjtim

Logarock
Yes or just scrap the whole story.

to kill of a generation of Egyptians as revenge for the Egyptians killing off the Israeli first-borns. One surviving such was Moses himself.

wow that's some twisted up history you got there

Utnapisjtim

Logarock
Yes or just scrap the whole story.

Ah, either it is magic or it wrecks the story. Believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny as much as you like, but the truth is slightly less fun. Disinfo is much easier to tolerate than conspiracies and plots to kill of a generation of Egyptians as revenge for the Egyptians killing off the Israeli first-borns. One surviving such was Moses himself.

You assume a great deal. I am simply saying that the alternative explanations are even more fantastic. Our brains are not trained to see these "logical" explanations for the fantastic impossibilities that they are simply because we are trained to hold any explanation other than "magic" to be better on if face.

The story of the Exodus taken as a whole is simply so fantastic that logical explanations cannot be applied as an alternative understanding.

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Utnapisjtim

Logarock
Yes or just scrap the whole story.

to kill of a generation of Egyptians as revenge for the Egyptians killing off the Israeli first-borns. One surviving such was Moses himself.

wow that's some twisted up history you got there

Exodus 1 explains how the Pharaoh orders all Israeli first-born sons killed. Then Ex. 2 explains how Moses manages to survive since his parents place him in a woven float and sends him into the river at a place where the Egyptian high-society women bathed. Thinking the child was a reborn Osiris, Moses was saved and brought up as an Egyptian prince. Ex. 11 explains Moses' revenge, his tenth horn, divicing a plan that kills off all Egyptian first-born sons. Now what is twisted up here? Appart from the whole story being twisted in the first place that is.…

op, may i ask why you have the noah guy as your avatar?
oh, lookie there, noAH. isn't that interesting. there's a reason i'm asking, so your answer would be useful to this conversation

Utnapisjtim

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Utnapisjtim

Logarock
Yes or just scrap the whole story.

to kill of a generation of Egyptians as revenge for the Egyptians killing off the Israeli first-borns. One surviving such was Moses himself.

wow that's some twisted up history you got there

Exodus 1 explains how the Pharaoh orders all Israeli first-born sons killed. Then Ex. 2 explains how Moses manages to survive since his parents place him in a woven float and sends him into the river at a place where the Egyptian high-society women bathed. Thinking the child was a reborn Osiris, Moses was saved and brought up as an Egyptian prince. Ex. 11 explains Moses' revenge, his tenth horn, divicing a plan that kills off all Egyptian first-born sons. Now what is twisted up here? Appart from the whole story being twisted in the first place that is.…

oh yeahhhhhhh, i forgot all about that!! i gotta re-read it. it's little details like that that help flesh out the story but are sometimes overlooked or forgotten.

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If they lived in Goshen in great numbers, again where is the archaelogical evidence - also I do find it strange to use Freud as an archaeological expert concerning Amenhotep etc but is there evidence in the records that that Pharaoh died from drowning? As I undertand it, there is no evidence. So what is interesting has no basis as yet in any form of fact. It looks like a story to show how powerful the Jewish/Hebrew God as opposed to the Egyptian God's.

I've noticed that when reading through different ideas concerning the Exdus that its considered to be believed as a part of 'faith' and the 'Moses' material is usually seen as taken on faith alone. With religion governing people's lives so much, one wonders when taking something so serious on 'faith alone. will ever occur to people as somewhat strange - but then we are comfortable with what we know and don't like change if it hits close to our hearts.