ISON: So much for being a secret

Well if this doesn't quell any speculation as to "ARE THEY HIDING ISON FROM US" and other questions of that sort, I don't know what will.

"Super Comet ISON 2013" will feature exclusive views from Mars and in-depth coverage of the comet's 4.5 trillion-mile trek across the solar system. Comet Ison Science Channel - P 2013 Courtesy of Science Channel From its first spotting in September 2012 to its final journey past the sun, comet ISON's 4.5 trillion-mile trek across the solar system has been an unsolved mystery since its start millions of years ago -- now Science Channel says it has the full story. our editor recommends 'Futurescape' Host James Woods on the Future (and Potential Dangers) of Science and Technology The network’s new special Super Comet ISON 2013 will detail what is being called one of the most significant celestial events in history with exclusive images of the comet’s path caught by NASA’s Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter and other leading observatories across the globe.

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Don't they always televise shows about things they are trying to hide from the public?

That's probably what I would do, if I wanted to keep something a secret...

On a serious note, I wish I had cable because I would love to watch it when it airs

Edited for clarity: I can see lying about things they wanted to hide the truth about (like scandals), but I cannot see televising things that they wanted to remain a secret altogether from the public. Not that ISON was ever a secret to begin with.

I to have been researching the comet, fascinating topic. Have you read or heard of Dr.James McCanney he has a website under his name. He covers the Electromagnetic universe model of the comet in text and radio talkshow. He has free radio program weekly and reports uncommon threads not covered in the media.
Just thought it might spark your interest to have yet another view on the topic.
Peace and joy
IWK2

WHEN WAS IT EVER A SECRET?

daryllyn
On a serious note, I wish I had cable because I would love to watch it when it airs

Seriously! I cut my cable about 3 years ago, but every once in awhile (and I do mean AWHILE, commercials are awful!), something comes along that I'd love to watch! Oh well, maybe Netflix will get it.....3 years from now, lol!

AutumnWitch657
WHEN WAS IT EVER A SECRET?

I personally never thought it was but.... some people seem to disagree.

I've been laughing at these commercials all week. They've been running heavy on the Science channel and when I watch TV, it's a channel like that these days. They obviously made this special quite some time ago and well before ISON's fateful sling-slap around our Sun. The TV spots show what SHOULD have been while asking "..and where will ISON go from here??" in a catchy tone.

Well.. It seems, in reality, ISON isn't going much of anywhere from here ...but what can they do? They already made the show and invested a ton in ad campaigns and air time. They kinda HAVE to go with it at this point ..even if it's awkward to say the very least.

I kinda feel sorry for them. Talk about getting caught by events in a very ...delicate..position. How do you have a special about something which may not even exist as such anymore?

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So, what you think the secret is ?

daryllyn
Don't they always televise shows about things they are trying to hide from the public?

That's probably what I would do, if I wanted to keep something a secret...

On a serious note, I wish I had cable because I would love to watch it when it airs

....keeping in line with your sarcasm..

Don't they always televise the truth?

That's probably what I would do, if I wanted to keep something a secret.

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I don't believe everything I see on TV, if that's what you are getting at.

When it comes to scandals, or major questionable happenings, or anything along those lines... I agree with your statement, but, I do think that this notion that NASA, or anyone else for that matter, lied about anything regarding ISON... borders on ridiculous.

AutumnWitch657
WHEN WAS IT EVER A SECRET?

It wasn't, but there are many people out there that cannot be convinced that they are not being lied to about it.

reply to post by parad0x122


Shame Nixon and Hughes aren't around any-more....

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nvmd

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You know what would be cool:

If they started a free project tv online. Users could search in Google for "free project tv" or "free-tv-video-online" then click on the .me links provided. Once in the free project tv online website users could watch any tv show on demand.



In regards to OP, I think the conspiracy card gets thrown around as much as the race card if not more these days.

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I don't think there is, or ever was for that matter, any secret about ISON.

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What happened to that other recent ISON thread? Just as I was posting a question/thought, it went away!

So here ya go: ISON, intact, was to pass 40,000,000 miles from Earth on its exit path from the Solar System. Now it's dispersed into a 'debris cloud' right? What is the diameter of this debris cloud, and what size are the 'pieces' contained within? I am asking because I wonder if the center of the debris cloud will still pass us at 40,000,000 miles away, and if so, how close will the outermost/closest perimeter of this debris cloud come to us?

No doom thinking... just visualizing the expansion of the cloud as it makes its pass by us.

reply to post by new_here

40,000,000 miles is about the distance between Earth and Venus right now.
No. The "debris cloud" (more of a dust cloud) will not spread out that much but even if it did its density would be ridiculously low. Think about the volume of a sphere with a radius of 40,000,000 miles.

268,082,573,106,329,000,000,000 cubic miles of space. The entire comet had a volume of about 300 cubic miles...maybe. Spread that little number out in that big number and what do you get?

daryllyn
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I don't believe everything I see on TV, if that's what you are getting at.

When it comes to scandals, or major questionable happenings, or anything along those lines... I agree with your statement, but, I do think that this notion that NASA, or anyone else for that matter, lied about anything regarding ISON... borders on ridiculous.

Yes that's what I was getting at thanks for clarifying. I personally don't trust NASA. To me it seems like tptb set ISON up to be over hyped and lied about for whatever reason.

new_here
reply to post by parad0x122

 

So here ya go: ISON, intact, was to pass 40,000,000 miles from Earth on its exit path from the Solar System. Now it's dispersed into a 'debris cloud' right? What is the diameter of this debris cloud, and what size are the 'pieces' contained within? I am asking because I wonder if the center of the debris cloud will still pass us at 40,000,000 miles away, and if so, how close will the outermost/closest perimeter of this debris cloud come to us?

The part of ISON's orbit that we will pass through in January is only dust. Its the pre-perihelion part of ISON's journey.

The part with the 'debris cloud' from the fragmentation so many are talking about, is the post-perihelion portion of her journey, which will be a whopping 40,000,000 miles away at its closest point to earth. Its so far above the ecliptic that there is nothing to worry about in that regard.

The most that will happen is maybe a few extra shooting stars in the sky around that time, but astronomers say that even that isn't too likely, and that we shouldn't expect to notice anything.

Phage
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40,000,000 miles is about the distance between Earth and Venus right now.
No. The "debris cloud" (more of a dust cloud) will not spread out that much but even if it did its density would be ridiculously low. Think about the volume of a sphere with a radius of 40,000,000 miles.

268,082,573,106,329,000,000,000 cubic miles of space. The entire comet had a volume of about 300 cubic miles...maybe. Spread that little number out in that big number and what do you get?

edit on 12/4/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)

Thanks Phage, I'm truly not concerned about being bonked on the head or anything. I really just wondered if anyone knew how close the perimeter of the debris cloud will get to Earth. That is my real question.

See, I remember reading (initially) that Earth would pass thru the tail of then-intact-ISON after its closest approach of 40,000,000. Well, the bugger took longer to re-appear from perihelion than expected! We've continued on our normal orbit whilst ISON seems late for our dinner date (lol) so perhaps we will rendezvous with its charming cloud for a blissful evening of dancing with the shooting-stars.

All silliness aside... our orbit was gonna pass thru the tail of the exiting comet (when it was one) anyway... so, how close will the perimeter of the debris cloud get? It may not be known or even speculated on yet. I figure you could dig up the figures if anybody on here can. (No people, I am not sucking up, LoL... )