The report on Sandy Hook has just been released by the state's attorney's office.

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It was a month ago.. Our papers have been filled with it every day. They have the schools looking more like kiddie jails now.

Let's see what else.... Oh yeah. even though the law forbids it, they deny entrance to parents, AND we have to listen to the vitriol from pundits daily here.. Did I leave anything out, OH YES... I forgot, the CT State Atty's office and the people that investigated are human beings, fallible and prone to error, we weren't prepared for this, we never thought it could happen here but it did.. I haven't slept a night since that day without SEEING THE DEAD KIDS LAYING ON THAT FLOOR.. Yeah I was there too.. "benefit of the job"

albeit after the initial scene had died down a bit, but my god.. I see people still clinging to actors and regurgitating that awful Cluesforum..

NO I have no tolerance anymore for picking apart this incident... it's just too burned in my head for me to any longer be objective. You may not like that, I certainly don't as I have to be objective 24/7, but I know Carver is an oddball at times, he's not Dr Lee who we had all become accustomed to. Vance, he's Stebbin's lapdog, and Dan Stebbins is a pretty down to Earth guy.. I don't see eye to eye with him on MANY things, and he was my instructor YEARS ago, but man... to sit there and say "I think they made this stuff up because well it took them extra time" or my favorite to paraphrase "It has to be a a coverup and it just doesn't add up because we dont' know what the other chatter was that day that could have overlapped, we assume it's all related"

The one thing I remember form that day is my phone going off like mad and me being unable to leave the school I was in.. my boss was furious had them escort me out to my car and I took off like a bat out of hell down the merritt. No.. there were mistakes, granted, but after reading everything that they put out, they, for a state that was still not fully recovered from not one, not two but THREE major weather events (yeah we're still not at 100% capacity here in my town THREE YEARS LATER) they did an ok job for the organization they are.. NO I don't like them to the point I will defend their every action, I think the CT State Police happent o be some of the most pleasant cops in the country, but they do screw up from time to time, everyone here seems to think though that human failings are a point of coverup, i thought they were covering something up at first then I went a little into it, granted I hear more than most through chater, but none of that has convinced me what i read myself, the kid was off somehow, why, who knows, was it MK ULtra? Who knows, was it mind control of another kind? who knows, was he really out to break records? Probably, who knows, I only have one problem, and I know damn well J Edgar (the building not the person) is working on that one right now the recovery of the data from the damaged drive.. knowing they haven't given up on it put my mind at ease, and cleared up my one point of contention. They do want to know what was on it.. even if just a little bit or byte...

FYI: I had to resign from my job because of what I saw that day, now I'm on desk duty until well tomorrow then it's off to the North Slope for me.. I cannot live in this state any longer.. too many bad memories..

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mate, that's a bit harsh, don't you think?

and vkey....i don't see anyone analyzing the medical examiner's lunch choices...so what exactly is it, discussion/comment-wise, that you take umbrage with? what is being said that is disgusting? i see people discussing a report, and associated materials, about a tragedy, in an attempt to make sense of an official story that has holes in it, the size of the bloody moon...

you, yourself said the report reeks of a coverup, yet now, you seem not to care WHAT exactly it is, that's being covered up....

would you like to yell at people discussing 9/11, or aurora? because the official stories for those events made no sense either...

reply to post by Daedalus


Was it? I wasn't trying to be harsh at all. I am not the smartest guy in the world, sometimes things I say don't come out as intended.

TKDRL
reply to post by Daedalus

 

Was it? I wasn't trying to be harsh at all. I am not the smartest guy in the world, sometimes things I say don't come out as intended.

understood...and yeah, it kinda was..

reply to post by Daedalus


Damn...... If I was harsh I am sorry. Was never my intention.

vkey08
I haven't slept a night since that day without SEEING THE DEAD KIDS LAYING ON THAT FLOOR.. Yeah I was there too.. "benefit of the job"

Huh? Are you saying you were at SHES and saw the dead victims?

reply to post by vkey08


You're right - I don't care what you will or will not "tolerate" others discussing. If you're sick of it coming here does nothing for you. If you were personally moved by the event I am sorry but were' still trying to piece things together for ourselves so if its all the same to you we'd like to continue.
FYI - they did release additional files just a few days ago in add
ition to the report which came out in November.

beatbox
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Speaking of that. If I can recall that video was uploaded on you tube some months ago, right?

Can someone explain to me how it was recently uploaded when it was seized over a year ago?

www.dailymail.co.uk...

edit on 31-12-2013 by beatbox because: (no reason given)

did this go over everybody's head?

The dance dance revolution video was seized over a year ago...checkout the blue box in the link I posted.

ITEMS SEIZED FROM LANZA'S HOME
-A Christmas check from Lanza's mother to the shooter to purchase a firearm
-New York Times article from February 18, 2008, on the Northern Illinois University shooting
-Photocopied newspaper articles from 1891 about a school shooting
-Computer game titled School Shooting, where the player controls a character who enters a school and shoots at students
-Videos of Lanza playing Dance Dance Revolution
-Images of Lanza holding a handgun and a rifle to his head
-A document showing the prerequisites for a mass murder spreadsheet
- Spreadsheet listing mass murders
-Large amount of materials relating to Columbine shootings
-Images of hamsters and Lego creations

so..my questions are:

Who recorded the video?
If it was seized by the police over a year ago...then who uploaded the video earlier this year?


The description says it was originally uploaded on June 2 2012 by a kid named jimmy Oates. But how is that possible if the vid was seized???????? Did jimmy give Adam a copy of the video?

ok, here's something that bothers me about this ton of info that's been made available...

there are entire archives of pictures, that are just black.....they redacted entire archives....what exactly is the point of even including them, if they're not going to let you see anything?

i mean, the shooters clothing needs to be redacted?

or file (Walkley - Clothing.pdf)...every image is redacted, except for ME reference tags, to separate batches....now, some of you might be thinking "oh, but they're kid's clothes, and they'll have blood on them"...in the file (Walkley - Shooter's clothing), you can see a black shirt, that is very obviously soaked in blood.....

it seems a lot like selective censorship....

now, before anyone gets on me for being a disgusting degenerate, i'm not asking to see the autopsy photos....(well, maybe i'd like to see the shooter's, just so we could put to bed the whole question of "did he somehow magically shoot himself in the back of the head, or did he eat his gun?"), but again, what is the point of including entire archives of photographic evidence, if none of it is of any use, due to having been completely blacked out? why not just have a redacted file, that tells you what banks of photos were not included?

Daedalus
...there are entire archives of pictures, that are just black.....they redacted entire archives....what exactly is the point of even including them, if they're not going to let you see anything?

Because they enjoy laughing in your face.

starviego

vkey08
I haven't slept a night since that day without SEEING THE DEAD KIDS LAYING ON THAT FLOOR.. Yeah I was there too.. "benefit of the job"

Huh? Are you saying you were at SHES and saw the dead victims?

This is quite a revelation. One of our very own members was a first hand witness to the carnage at SHES.

Would be wonderful if she could calmly assuage our concerns, instead of screaming in what might be construed as yet another attempt to get a Sandy Hook thread shut down.

One of the truly peculiar aspects of Sandy Hook is that message board posters sport more vitriol than those who were directly involved. (Although it sounds like maybe this message board poster WAS involved). Of course grief does strange things to people.

www.courant.com...
The students interviewed ... then described a man "busting into their room" holding a "long bazooka-style gun." They said he was wearing a green army jacket, seemed to have a beard and didn't say a word before shooting.

If by "they" the interviewers mean multiple children eyewitnesses, then you've got multiple witnesses describing someone who simply can't be Adam Lanza. Is that why they redacted whole pages of interviews--because too many speak of multiple perpetrators?


news.msn.com...
(about early and mid 2012)
Someone who befriended him there told authorities that Lanza was not completely withdrawn. .... Adam... had taken Chinese lessons with a private tutor. He even talked about joining the military. .....Lanza would disappear for weeks at a time, after which he would say he was "having an existential crisis."
He liked to go "off grid" from time to time, and frequently reformatted his computer hard drives, presumably to cover his tracks, the friend said.

Interest in a foreign language, talk of the military, weapons training, unexplained gaps in the timeline.... Lanza fits the profile of a covert operator, or someone who was being groomed by the covert operators.



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This may be nit picky but the shirt you mention is not obviously soaked in blood, it has some sort of crusty stainccover about half of it. Look at the tag though, it appears the stain goes right up to that portion of the shirt but the white tag shows no sign of blood or any other substance.
Now look at the other clothing, no satins whatsoever on the boxer shorts, but it is common for a person to defacate and or urinate immediately after death. Yet the underwear look like they were just taken out of the package.
The pants have too large of a waist and too short an inseam to be from a person as tall and as emaciated as Lanza was supposed to be. He also must have been pretty strong to rip that rear pocket too.
How about the shoes, size 8.5, that's my 5'9" 120lb wife's shoe size. I am close to 6' and wear size 10.5 or 11 depending. Also note the wear on the sole and yet no damage or embeded glass shards from walking through the front window.
Its obvious they have to redact the clothing, if nobody really died, they don't really have any kids clothes with 3-11 bullet holes and appropriate blood stains. It would be too obvious if they were all black clothing like the shooters so they could hide the stains.
Just look at the stain on Nancy's bed sheet, looks more like red wine than a real blood stain. Then we have a blood trail that starts outside the school entrance near the end of the sidewalk, yet not a drop of blood in the hall or entrance leading up go that point...