I am afraid of death. And I am afraid of dying.

SisyphusRide
1 Corinthians 15

Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.


2 Corinthians 5

herefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:

For we walk by faith, not by sight

We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

You hit the nail on the head!

BTW are you left handed?

droid56
Getting really feeble, and then ending up on the floor of my apartment,alone, or ending up in an ambulance heading towards a nearby hospital scares me. Dying, losing the ability to breath without help scares me.

I'm not trying to be morbid. Death is freaking scary.

And then there is the whole question of sailing without control into the great beyond after we die. You religious types say, no problem. We non-religious types say, "Yikes!"

The whole death thing scares the heck out of me. If you aren't close to it, or you are a member of a very soothing religion, you don't understand what I am saying.

Death is scary. Unless you are not awake.

The trick is to "Learn to die, before you die"..



Muzz

I used to be afraid of death but these two videos helped me profoundly with it.

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Life is a joke. Death is the punchline.

Death doesn't scare me so much. I've been knocked unconscious to the point where I think I have a pretty good idea what it's going to be like (SPOILER: A whole lot of 'nuthin!).

But I want to avoid as much pain as I can. Unfortunately, dying usually involves some kind of horrible pain. Fortunately, once I'm dead, it won't matter.

See with me I am not afraid of the pain at all. I would prefer a longer painful exit than one I wasn't ever aware of. Or getting shot and instantly dying. I would rather have some reflective time. The thing that scares the crap out of me is simply not existing.

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SisyphusRide
reply to post by Fraudfinder

 

Yeah, the Dalai Lama. What a party animal that guy is!

Eh, this guy bugs me. I wonder what it would be like to wander around all day long and have a lot of politically minded people listen to you pontificate and rattle off a lot of platitudes and think that you're so great. I'm pretty sure if all most of us ever did was wander around and think about stuff, we'd come up with some quotable sayings all the time.

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being a living Deity is a hard knock life...

Why fear the inevitable? Doesn't the suffering only exist while you're alive?

Not saying I welcome death, I enjoy life, but there's not much to fear surrounding death except the possibility of being in excruciating pain throughout the process.. if you get the pooh end of the stick.

There's actually a feeling of release and rejuvenation I feel when imagining a scenario in which a doctor tells me I've only got a year to live. My real fears are linked to anxiety. Fear related to anticipating the future. I can handle events as they happen, but it's always worse in my imagination.

My auntie just passed away. Her granddaughter, whom she was caregiver over, found her lying unconscious. Heart aneurism. She was awake before the surgery, commented how she didn't think she was going to make it, and was comforted by her sister who said that's okay, I'll take care of your daughter and grand-daughter. So she went under, the surgery failed, and she was brain-dead for four minutes before they hocked her up to the machine. Meh, she was vegged, so they let her go. There was no pain. She had morphine the whole time. Most people who go out these days die in their sleep, or to cancer, heart-disease, and strokes. They're rarely in pain for too long. They are either already in hospital as they're fading off, on the drip, else pass out clean and that's it.

I do have another story related to the death of my brother, but that one's not so comforting, and shows the worst of humankind. I'll just leave that one out... suffice it to say, it's a miracle I'm not absolutely insane after getting the details surrounding the event.

I had a friend that feared life so much that he committed suicide when he was 16. I hope the opposite happens for you, and you fear death so much that you live life to the fullest.

I am also afraid of death, but I look at the odds.

There's a 50/50 chance of existing in some form after death. Either you do or you don't, so 50/50 odds.

You stand a far greater chance of surviving death than you do winning the lottery or any other myriad of events that rarely happen to people in life.

decided to be nice.

it's fun to play naive.

understood.

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There's a 50/50 chance of existing in some form after death.

Or there is 100% chance you won't exist in any tangible form after death.

Being right or wrong about it doesn't change the odds That's a real possibility too. Hope not.

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I understand your apprehension and fear of death. I myself have always been intrigued by it in a 'natural' way, and also a 'curious' way.

The best story I resonated with, was of a lady on safari with her husband, when she strayed to far from the vehicle and was assaulted by a lioness. At first she was in complete shock, and couldn't move. Then, she said it was ultimate panic; but after a few seconds when she thought no help could save her, when she felt the tearing at her back, her entire body went numb and she felt totally right and at peace.

I've watched the videos of carnivores and prey. Oddly, I see the same response. They struggle only a moment, and then they are lifeless, putty in the carnivores mouth. Odd thing our evolution, aye?

Do not be afraid, sir. Think back before you were born. What do you remember? It is the same as death my friend. It wasn't something remembered then, nor after you are to die.

Wishing you the best,
Amarri

from my experience i know it's not painful and even if it is the lack of oxygen makes you forget and there's just nothingness.

As long as you have folks who keep you in the memories..you never die. Death is a much a part of life as life itself. If we as a species were'nt afraid of death then we as a species would'nt last to long.

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Thats what drives me mad too! i just cant get around that idea.
I found useful trying not to think about it at all, because i freak out, and theres no way out really.
From time to time the thought crawls back in, it mostly happens at crucial times of my life, when i see things in perpective, or make long term plans, that when i realize the limit is only a few decades away. Im still young so i try not to worry, but im not sure how i will react when i reach 50 yo and im certain i dont have 40 years ahead of me nomore.
I believe our only hope is looking into religion, or any kind of new age movement that helps us deal with that idea. A friend of mine got into past lives and such, and that helped her a lot coping with it.
I myself lack the faith to believe in god the way most religions portray it. But ive been looking to get into meditation and OBE to help me find some relief.

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Scared of death... hrmmm EVERYONE dies. Ask yourself this question:

"Where was i, before i was born?"


I think death is something not to be feared, we are brainwashed from an early age that death is a bad thing, but with no definitive proof(no one coming back from the dead with a video of what happened afterwards.

You could be dead now and when you die you are actually being born? Other side of the coin.

droid56
Getting really feeble, and then ending up on the floor of my apartment,alone, or ending up in an ambulance heading towards a nearby hospital scares me. Dying, losing the ability to breath without help scares me.

I'm not trying to be morbid. Death is freaking scary.

And then there is the whole question of sailing without control into the great beyond after we die. You religious types say, no problem. We non-religious types say, "Yikes!"

The whole death thing scares the heck out of me. If you aren't close to it, or you are a member of a very soothing religion, you don't understand what I am saying.

Death is scary. Unless you are not awake.

I remember a time in my life when I was utterly terrified of dying but now I seem to have accepted it as
just another stage in the scheme of life! I was actually less afraid of it when I was an atheist! I will try
to explain why. I looked at death, at this time, as a release from life, pain, suffering and want! I guess
if you are one that has had a good life filled with love, happiness and joy then maybe these are things
you would no longer have and there for you would gain a fear of losing those good times!
My life was not always bad but it was never very good so I suppose there will not be much for me to lose when
I die! I also believe the reason why most of us are so afraid of death is the same reason
why we fear anything, the terror of what is not known.
I have always pictured death as a transition into a dreamless state, one where we don't see, hear or perceive anything but recently, about several years ago I started to believe in God and this was not because of a fear
of death but because I felt Christ's influence in my life and though I did not have any visions, nor did I have any definitive proof I felt as though his influence helped me to get through some of the roughest times in my life!
Today I am pretty sure we don't just end when we die but transition into another plain of existence!
Maybe even into the source, which is the beginning of all things! We all know that there is no way to destroy anything!
When matter gets annihilated it is not destroyed but transformed into energy. I believe the same is true for consciousness, Which gets transferred to another medium! I believe that this dimension it's transferred to may not be
a definitive one! These are some of the things I seem to feel deep in my soul! I really don't know for sure how God ties into all this or how most of it works! Whether so called heaven and hell play a part! Though we need only worry about
What we need to do in this life and let Christ worry about the next!

I understand your fear of these untested ideas but the truth is fear is a construct of the primitive mind and does not exist beyond the mind! This can be overcome or reduced by going back to a more primitive function of life, such as breathing!
In life there is little that we can control but to live in fear over things we can't is senseless! Stop worrying about
death and enjoy whatever life you have left and when the journey of life ends, gain comfort in the aspect that
you lived life to its very fullest!

Lucid Lunacy
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What else could be more fascinating than the migration of your whole self to a completely different existential platform?

Predicated on there actually being that existential platform. My research has brought me conflicting information. You're right there are lots of 'near death' accounts. They range from experiencing absolutely nothing to experiencing a Christian hell to pretty much every other iteration of familiar stories. That doesn't fill me with confidence, hence fear of dying.

The truth is that this existential platform (this one that we're alive within right now) is based on a universally imposed material structure, whereas the platform that the passing human being transitions to isn't. This allows each human mind to construct its own version of reality, but only if that mind understands that this is true. If a human mind is ignorant of the projected nature of that realm, it can be vulnerable to manipulation by a mind that is experienced in the process of imposing perception. That said, most perception manipulation is achieved long before the passing-over event happens. Religions and traditional narratives exist to prepare minds for the default ramifications of expectation on perception.

Most folks will experience what they expect to experience, so it's no surprise that NDEs come in all shapes, sizes and scenarios. Perception is pretty powerful even here where there are actual reality anchors. When the human being has graduated to the eternal realm, there are no reality anchors at all. Perception can be overwhelming, and establishing expectation before the human being transitions is the key to funneling people without having to do anything but welcome them to whatever heaven or hell it is that they've been subconsciously expecting for years.

openyourmind1262
As long as you have folks who keep you in the memories..you never die.

How long do you expect to be remembered ? Today's celebrities won't be remembered in another 25 years. Do you even know the names of your great, great grandparents? How well are they even remembered by your family?

"OZYMANDIAS"

(Percy Shelley)

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
`My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away".