How Does Going to Hell Look Like?

FlowThruSpace
We all know about going to Heaven and how it is supposed to happen. Not many people talk about Hell, however. If you do believe in literal Hell, how does one know one is going to Hell after death? I am talking about the transition to Hell, from the moment of death to the beginning of the punishment.

You go to sleep and wake up in jersey shore and have to live there.

You won't know it. It will most likely be basically your worst nightmare with no way out and I'm sure your gonna be pretty confused as to what's actually going on. So pretty much a never ending nightmare that keeps changing to different fears or repeating your worst ones expending on your individual fears. But actually it says that it will be as though your flesh is torn or burned off and then it grows back endlessly.

Cheesy459
You won't know it. It will most likely be basically your worst nightmare with no way out and I'm sure your gonna be pretty confused as to what's actually going on. So pretty much a never ending nightmare that keeps changing to different fears or repeating your worst ones expending on your individual fears. But actually it says that it will be as though your flesh is torn or burned off and then it grows back endlessly.

You say: " But actually it says that it will be as though your flesh is torn or burned off and then it grows back endlessly."

Did your Bible say that? No, I think it was some work of fiction. Remember that even Dante, Milton, and yes, Baxter, write fiction, pious fiction to be sure, but it's fiction. Fiction - legend - myth - outright lie.

Hell is a 404.

I don't think that fear of any kind, let alone fear of hell can ever function as the basis for any sort of real and authentic salvation, because there's no fear in joy in the same way there's no hell in heaven.

To avoid hell if anyone is worried about it - I think that open-mindedness and willingness and a heart seeking after the love of God, or a pure and perfect love, and for those who will or who can (it takes a certain courage and audacity) climbing into Christ and putting him on as much as possible, with him in us, while letting our mind and heart take in and receive more and more of the love of God, and building up our hope, our faith and our trust in God and in the good (and that God is all-good), and that in the end, the good and the reasonable, even logical (the root of logic is logos) has triumphed over the pathetic, absurd, ridiculous and abhorrent - will allow us to achieve the desired result (avoiding hell at any and all cost). It's funny actually, the fear, which is rendered ultimately, absurd.

It has this ugly catch to it though, that it might remain as a possibility and for so many people (when you read "The Great Divorce" and think of your mother-in-law or someone you know who's totally self-absorbed or possessive or controlling or hateful, etc.), therefore as we overcome it with the help of God, in Jesus Christ, then as the wretched sinners that we all are or were, we can help overcome hell on behalf of our fellow man while we're at it, and even now while still on the way, as heaven grows and grows, as a reality and as hell rapidly shrinks and diminishes as a possibility, based on what's entirely reasonable and enjoyable on the one hand, and what is definitely not, on the other.

This is most assuredly not the kind of talk that the devil, if there still is one in earshot, likes to hear! ie: Our loss of fear, in hell and in "the evil one" aka the devil because "the devil cannot bear to be mocked".

"The best way to drive out the devil, if he will not yield to texts of
Scripture, is to jeer and flout him, for he cannot bear scorn."—Luther

"The devill . . the prowde spirite . . cannot endure to be mocked."—Thomas More

from "The Screwtape Letters" by C.S. Lewis and dedicated to J.R.R. Tolkien

It's even possible that in the final analysis the human soul was never intended to remain in hell, indefinitely, in which case they would be in Pergatory looking back at their eventual liberation from hell, in hindsight, could you imagine their sheer reLIEF and gratitude though, to be spit out of hell at last, onto the outer beaches of heaven's distant shore, even if there might be a desert to cross with the occasional oasis or some such thing before they finally reach at last, the Promised Land. From that POV, even for them there would be no hell looking back since it was all necessary to bring about the greatest possible mutual joy and happiness both for them in a hard lesson learned and for one and all (who can tolerate them now).

In other words as Jesus says, some will end up in prison and won't get out until they've paid the very last penny.

Best he said in that case to come clean before the bailiff hands you over to the officer and the officer to the judge who throws you in jail.

There's a special little place in hell for those who tax home property. I know that much.

In the revelation of St Peter, Jesus told Peter that Hell wasn't eternal, and that everyone would eventually be able to leave when they were ready. It's more like detention.

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That's not accepted as Canon.

Certainly there are philosophical conundrums re hell.

However, imho, the safest thing is to walk in an intimate relationship with God.

Clearly, He wrote His word in a way that He expects us to think of it as more or less eternal, everlasting.

Could He wrap this multiverse up in a ball and dispose of it--including all the time-related aspects of it? I suspect He easily could. Therefore what would happen with hell? I don't know. I'm far from being remotely wise enough to even guess well about such things.

I do know that He wants us to think of it as eternal from our perspective. He must have His reasons. And how can finite mortals safely pretend otherwise when so many verses indicate that sort of perspective?

Besides, even 3 minutes there would likely seem eternal.

There is one interesting verse . . .

THE GATES OF HELL shall not prevail AGAINST the Church of Jesus The Christ.

Silly preachers have preached for decades as though Christians were surviving being chased down the highways and byways by THE GATES OF HELL.

However . . .

GATES

ARE . . . . . DEFENSIVE.

Therefore what, I don't know.

I'm skeptical that God would have a role for individuals to play who'd demonstrated decided rebellion against Him. And folks will say anything to relieve pain.

Therefore what, I don't know.

Colton Burpo probably has one of the more recent views of hell. And it was so awful, he at least used to refuse to talk about it.

And suicides who come back via a NDE experience, usually, have to be queried more or less immediately or the experience is soooo awful that they block it out.

Ive heard it's really hot. Then again, no one has ever been to either make beleive place so we are left to speculate. If your from Siberia it may be a step up.

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Neither does the pearly gates or no one would be going to hell.


Isn't that amazing?

openyourmind1262
Ive heard it's really hot. Then again, no one has ever been to either make beleive place so we are left to speculate. If your from Siberia it may be a step up.

WRONG.

Many folks have had excursions to hell and to heaven . . . and returned to tell about it.

. . . including many atheists . . . who are no longer atheists.

Many of their cases are impossible to explain . . . unless . . . their narratives are true.

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FlowThruSpace
We all know about going to Heaven and how it is supposed to happen. Not many people talk about Hell, however. If you do believe in literal Hell, how does one know one is going to Hell after death? I am talking about the transition to Hell, from the moment of death to the beginning of the punishment.

NewAgeMan
I don't think that fear of any kind, let alone fear of hell can ever function as the basis for any sort of real and authentic salvation, because there's no fear in joy in the same way there's no hell in heaven.

Ok, with that clearly stated, and as a type of advisory ie: "viewer discretion advised" (because we don't after all even want to develop an irrational fear of hell for no reason whatsoever than an irrational fear in and of itself, which as I understand it is just the kind of thing that hell feeds on) - I present my three "favorite" hell experience stories, 2 are of the hell/heaven NDE variety and the other a life-based experience (with a strange dream + demonic attack!).

Note also that none of these people who experienced hell, remained there, and that in each case it became a story of redemption revealing the glory of the love of God, praise God and the holy name of Jesus Christ. (I'm quite serious and laughing).

Ian McCormack was night diving off the island of Mauritius when he was stung multiple times by Box Jellyfish, which are among the most venomous creatures in the world. His testimony relates how he clung to life while getting to hospital, was declared clinically dead soon afterwards, and how during this time he had an encounter with Jesus, which radically changed the direction of his life. Link

BO XIAN

openyourmind1262
Ive heard it's really hot. Then again, no one has ever been to either make believe place so we are left to speculate. If your from Siberia it may be a step up.

WRONG.

Many folks have had excursions to hell and to heaven . . . and returned to tell about it.

. . . including many atheists . . . who are no longer atheists.

Many of their cases are impossible to explain . . . unless . . . their narratives are true.

I was posting this (above) at the same time you were stating that heh I guess great minds think alike in synchronicity (or it was just a coincidence.. not).

Best Regards,

NAM aka Bob


Edit to add: As an antidote to hell's strange fascination or fear, please see this thread and read the short story linked in the OP, and just remember not to leave your sense of humor or irony at the door when you do because you're in for a real treat let me tell you!

FlowThruSpace
We all know about going to Heaven and how it is supposed to happen. Not many people talk about Hell, however. If you do believe in literal Hell, how does one know one is going to Hell after death? I am talking about the transition to Hell, from the moment of death to the beginning of the punishment.

going to hell?

here is a road sign which will show you the road you're heading down...


socialism looks alot like hell... because it only works in two places... Heaven where they don't need it... and hell where they already have it! -Reagan

here is another image of hell... pictures tell a thousand words.


I wish someone with some Photoshop abilities would join these images together for me...?

"Battle of Somme 1916"

SisyphusRide

I wish someone with some Photoshop abilities would join these images together for me...?

You're kidding, right?

Have you considered that you might be projecting a little bit, or offering a hyperbole of the highest/lowest denominator?

Do we want to be creating hells where they don't really exist, I'm starting to imagine an Alex Jones type figure in hell raging raging forever raging against, well, hell itself and nothing more.

Or you were just kidding and joking around like a lot of other people have been, like referencing the Jersey Shore and exclaiming that we're already in it now?

Many would have you believe that hell is fiery...but really hell is a place full of mud, where those that go there have mud up to thier bottom lip...and satan goes mud-skiing on sunday...

...on a more serious note...youboob has some totally real stories of hell, and I'm sure all cognizati will come on and tell you how to stay out of it...

Å99

Hell is often described in both Bible and personal accounts as existing as part of a Separated abyss. It is deep, it is dark and once you get there, it is hot and reeking of sulfur.

Does that sound very much like an 'inner earth' residing place? It is comprised of negative entities that are bound there in dwelling (again by Biblical accounts and personal testimony, including my own), though some demons have access on the surface to afflict those that open 'doorways' to them as part of their 'residency status'. Revelation informs also of these resident entities being moreso 'loosed' at an appointed time. Once again, I feel such supports that the hell we have been informed of is part of this earthen dominion's dimensional structure, as we are here to experience through our human process of 'refining' through this world's earthen 'fires of suffering' toward Love for ascension out of these spiritual binds- or opt for a pathway to regression to continue to remain in these 'lower vibrational' universal prisons/soul 'rehab' centres throughout our incarnated soul journey.

Christ lived the Way out and the True teachings are encoded within the DNA of our Divine Creation to serve our Purpose of demonstrating a life through Love and service in Good Spirit.

As the saying goes, the Truth will set you free. We bear the choice to live by it's Virtue in testing through this trial with errors and Mercy still.

op..... According to the Koran, hell is a place where people neither live nor die. May God save us all.

NewAgeMan
You're kidding, right?

actually I like researching WW1, and I have been for several years... these images were taken off the introduction of the episode series "The Great War" 1964.

it's an iconic and shocking photo... it is from screenshots in MPC after the camera pans over the image.

I just would like to have it joined properly, that result is MS Paint... terrible

sk0rpi0n
op..... According to the Koran, hell is a place where people neither live nor die. May God save us all.

if God was a computer,

Hell would be the place you go to get deleted... and the recycle bin is turned off.

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For those of us who do believe if we are wrong then oh well, no harm done.

No harm done!!????

How about thousands of years of religious indoctrination fostering patriarchy, racism, homophobia, scientific oppression, wars, etc.

No sorry you don't get off scott-free just because 'oops I was wrong after all'.

Sure if you're wrong you might be dead rotting away into nothingness alongside the atheists… but our children and our children's children will be suffering yet! Suffering the chains of a fictitious belief system hell-bent on putting its fingers in every facet of life it can muster. You'll be dead and unable to go back and illuminate your religious brethren you were wrong after all.

Every month someone wants to re-plunge the depths of the false doctrine of the eternal punishment of hell .The fact is the scriptures says nothing of the eternal punishment of "hell". Hell is the translation of 4 words Sheol, Hades, Gehenna and Tartarus. Yahoshua spoke of none of them in the context that Christian theology does(never ending punishment). but of Sheol(Hebrew) or Hades(Greek) both which mean the grave..the realm of the dead the realm of imperception.

There is no "eternal punishment of hell" or Sheol and Hades.That is the doctrine of men with carnal religious minds that blaspheme the Holy Spirit by indicting God as unjust and the worst monster in the universe.

Eternal doesn't mean endless time it is aion(eon) an age...aion is also translated "world"....a realm.The material universe is the physical realm(the valley of the shadow of death).Hades is the realm of the dead (death).The Kingdom of God is the realm of spirit(life).

The whole concept of "judgement is completely out of whack and delusional.Yahoshua came not to judge but to save (deliver) ALL of mankind (even those that say they don't want it) from "death"...the grave...the realm of the dead the realm of imperception.This is the most clear statement of all the new testament scriptures(Yahoshua God is salvation for ALL mankind) yet it has been perverted by the religious doctrines of men religion to mean the opposite.


1 Cor 15:22For as in [1st]Adam ALL die, even so in Christ[2nd Adam...adam means man] shall ALL be made alive.

Philp 2:9 God also has highly exalted him, and given him a NAME (Yahoshua... God is salvation) which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus(Yahoshua) EVERY knee will bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that EVERY tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

1Timothy 2:3For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God OUR Savior;Who WILL have ALL men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering towards us, NOT WILLING that ANY should perish, but that ALL WILL come to repentance[change]."

Titus 2:11 The grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to ALL MEN."

1 John 4:14 We have seen, and do testify, that the Father sent the Son to be the Savior [Yahoshua] of the WORLD."

1 John 2:2.he [Yahoshua] "is" the sacrifice for our sins, and NOT for ours only but ALSO for the WHOLE world.

1 Tim. 4:9-11 This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance. For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, Who is the Savior of ALL MEN, especially of those who believe.

John 12:47And if any man hear my words, and BELIEVE not, I judge him NOT: for I came NOT TO JUDGE the world, but to SAVE the world.