'Superbugs could erase a century of medical advances,' experts warn

Routine operations could become deadly "in the very near future" as bacteria evolve to resist the drugs we use to combat them. This process could erase a century of medical advances, say government doctors in a special editorial in The Lancet health journal.

Although the looming threat of antibiotic, or anti-microbial, resistance has been known about for years, the new warning reflects growing concern that the NHS and other national health systems, already under pressure from ageing populations, will struggle to cope with the rising cost of caring for people in the "post-antibiotic era".

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It would appear that we are returning to the dangerous days of not being able to fight microbial infection.
With the rise of superbugs like MRSA(which my own uncle has contracted during his current stay in hospital), it would seem we are going back to the days before we invented antibiotics.

This isnt doom porn, just reality.
I think we need to invest heavily into researching new antibiotics, and put the social engineering on hold.
It would be pretty ironic if we have already "extincted" what may have turned out to be an effective counter measure to infection.

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It's definitely scary. Best advice for anyone is to make sure you're in a state of ketosis prior to and after surgery, as bacteria isn't too good at metabolizing ketone bodies(won't help you with the fungi however). Stay away from all carbohydrates leading up to and until your wound heals.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Also consider using honey if you have a wound/stitch instead of something like Neosporin.

www.woundsinternational.com...

Who knows what the future will hold for medicine but one things for sure, current antibiotics are to become obsolete. The only thing I could think of that science could do is genetically manipulate the current antibiotics to keep up with the bacteria.

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Silver based products kill MRSA.
And there's science to prove it.
Google around for it.

If your uncle has MRSA on an open would or something at the surface. There's a product called silvasorb.

www.amazon.com...

Gets rid of MRSA.

We recently used the silver embedded bandages to help my mother in laws leg ulcer to heal. The results were amazing.

Thankfully it has been proven that Bee's Honey can defeat all of those "resistant" bugs.

Here is a Link to my thread with the evidence.

Why isn't the industry admitting that Honey actually defeats these "super bugs"?

Why are they using Medi-Honey secretly to defeat these threats yet not telling anyone in the public how to beat these things? They are actually using Honey to defeat these super bugs, and keeping it low-key so the public doesn't find out, go look into it.

Honey is super cheap and plentiful as well, so that means the true cost of health care is like 1% of whatever price tag the pharma industry hits you with.

OrphanApology


Who knows what the future will hold for medicine but one things for sure, current antibiotics are to become obsolete. The only thing I could think of that science could do is genetically manipulate the current antibiotics to keep up with the bacteria.

edit on 19-11-2013 by OrphanApology because: f

Yes, that was my first thought on a quick way to deal with the problem.
Maybe another solution could be the genetic manipulation of the bacterium itself?
But then the unforeseen circumstances may be worse than the original form in that case.
And to be totally honest, I dont trust the microbiologists that are digging up old bacterial diseases and bringing them into modern existence.
Scary times indeed. But in some ways you have to wonder if its natures way of addressing the problem of the exponential rise in human population. I know we are not over populated yet, but its a great possibility in the not too distant future.

One thing is sure, we are still not the masters of this world that we think we are.

grey580
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Silver based products kill MRSA.
And there's science to prove it.
Google around for it.

If your uncle has MRSA on an open would or something at the surface. There's a product called silvasorb.

www.amazon.com...

Gets rid of MRSA.

We recently used the silver embedded bandages to help my mother in laws leg ulcer to heal. The results were amazing.

Thank you very much for your suggestion, I will look into it.

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They aren't suppressing information regarding honey. There are multiple studies and resources on it's effectiveness.

If people choose not to research and read these studies that is their own fault. Honey is one of the few natural proven cures out there where there is a plethora of information online that becomes available with simple searches.

One thing however I have noticed has almost no information on is the Ketogenic diet.

It is a diet that should be recommended for cancer patients, patients going into surgery, recovering from, those with high cholesterol, high blood pressure, alzheimers, epilepsy and diabetes. It helps with all of those yet you almost never hear of the diet.

It's basically a diet that is high fat, medium protein, low carbohydrate(which cancer and bacteria metabolizes). And no, it's not the Atkins diet. Atkins diet reintroduces carbohydrates at some point.

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I would think that manipulating antibiotics would be safer and easier to control than manipulating the viruses/bacteria. Seems if you manipulated the bacteria they could evolve/adapt in a way that no one expected. They could still adapt of course to the new antibiotic but somehow it seems that it would be a little easier to control. Maybe not.

muzzleflash
Thankfully it has been proven that Bee's Honey can defeat all of those "resistant" bugs.

Here is a Link to my thread with the evidence.

Why isn't the industry admitting that Honey actually defeats these "super bugs"?

Why are they using Medi-Honey secretly to defeat these threats yet not telling anyone in the public how to beat these things? They are actually using Honey to defeat these super bugs, and keeping it low-key so the public doesn't find out, go look into it.

Honey is super cheap and plentiful as well, so that means the true cost of health care is like 1% of whatever price tag the pharma industry hits you with.

Thank you for your response.

I think the reason they may not be letting the cat out of the bag in regards to honey could be because its a last resort.
As such it wouldnt be wise to have it in mass use, thats the whole reason our current batch of antibiotics has become ineffective... overuse.

OrphanApology
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I would think that manipulating antibiotics would be safer and easier to control than manipulating the viruses/bacteria. Seems if you manipulated the bacteria they could evolve/adapt in a way that no one expected. They could still adapt of course to the new antibiotic but somehow it seems that it would be a little easier to control. Maybe not.

Yes that is exactly what I think. But im certainly no biologist.
Damn, Im not even a scientist.

OrphanApology


One thing however I have noticed has almost no information on is the Ketogenic diet.

Indeed, I have never heard of it.

But that doesnt mean much, there is much Im still ignorant of.
Especially when it comes to diets.

A death from this new 'superbug' just now ...

www.stuff.co.nz...

static2.stuff.co.nz...

UNTOUCHABLE BUG: At the top is the superbug contracted by Brian Pool. The white circles are different types of antibiotics, which have no impact on bacteria around them. Below is a common bacterium, the cause of many skin infections, being repelled by antibiotics.

Reinmax
A death from this new 'superbug' just now ...

www.stuff.co.nz...

static2.stuff.co.nz...

UNTOUCHABLE BUG: At the top is the superbug contracted by Brian Pool. The white circles are different types of antibiotics, which have no impact on bacteria around them. Below is a common bacterium, the cause of many skin infections, being repelled by antibiotics.

Damn!!

OneManArmy

I think the reason they may not be letting the cat out of the bag in regards to honey could be because its a last resort.
As such it wouldnt be wise to have it in mass use, thats the whole reason our current batch of antibiotics has become ineffective... overuse.

Incorrect, they simply do not have the capability to evolve beyond it within any reasonable time frame.

Otherwise we would see a major event in the ecosystem as a result of that development.

They won't gain resistance in millions of years, look into the info to learn more on the specifics, I linked it all in the thread.

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Yes, honey has very complex anti-microbial properties.

The only reason it's not recommended more to the public is greed. However, now that the cats out of the bag...use it.

There's so much information on honey it's crazy.

I know when I am finally able to get surgery on my finger I am using honey. Period. I don't give a # what they recommend to use.

That's another thing, people are so afraid to go against doctor orders even on proven treatments like honey it's mind boggling. Grow some. If you don't, the bacteria will.

OrphanApology
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They aren't suppressing information regarding honey. There are multiple studies and resources on it's effectiveness.

If people choose not to research and read these studies that is their own fault. Honey is one of the few natural proven cures out there where there is a plethora of information online that becomes available with simple searches.

Yeah people like being stupid and suffering all the time.
Sure, it's all their faults.

Everyone should have months of time to devote to trying to figure out if "Honey really is a super medicine" or not. I mean it only took me half a year of research to finally decide it was unstoppable and there isn't anything holding it back.

By the way, since it's not a secret, where are all the threads about it?
Why is my thread the only one aiming for this goal?

I have never seen anyone write about Honey like I did, even here at ATS...
I'm afraid it is clearly suppressed and hidden from the public.

All I see are threads on far inferior methods, such as using metals or taking more Vit C than the body can process. None of which have anywhere the effectiveness of honey. Also honey is dirt cheap in comparison.

And on top of that, when you buy local honey you support the local economy directly.

OrphanApology
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Yes, honey has very complex anti-microbial properties.

The only reason it's not recommended more to the public is greed. However, now that the cats out of the bag...use it.

There's so much information on honey it's crazy.

I know when I am finally able to get surgery on my finger I am using honey. Period. I don't give a # what they recommend to use.

That's another thing, people are so afraid to go against doctor orders even on proven treatments like honey it's mind boggling. Grow some. If you don't, the bacteria will.

It's for sure a secret because the Doctor is the one with the responsibility to inform their patients of the best known solutions.

Instead they keep secrets and misdirect patients into higher priced alternatives that don't even work that well half the time, and even can come with nasty side effects.

If people knew the truth "Super Bugs" articles wouldn't even exist.

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Do a Google search on either "Alternative Wound Care" or "Natural Wound Care". Also "Alternatives to traditional wound care"....or how about "Wound care against superbugs".

See what pops up.

So yes, it is people's fault if they don't even try and find out more information. By now it's no secret the track record of American doctors is very bad and healthcare prices are higher than anywhere else in the world.

Reading is something many choose not to do. It does not take much time to find out a great many things on the internet. It does require reading however. In this case...you can find a plethora of information in about 30 minutes of Googling.

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What about before the Internet?

What about my grandparents?
They don't know anything about the Internet.

They trust their doctors because they went into other fields like social services or government paperwork.

It is not the patients fault if the doctor misleads them. It's the doctors fault.
No one can know everything at once, and they cannot be expected to.

It's the Medical Establishments responsibility to inform the public of the truth and the best medical solutions (and by supplying evidence to prove their case).

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Responsibilities are only as good as the consequences for not performing them.

In the case of American doctors there are not that many consequences for things such as not informing of natural cures. Doctors do not make money off of honey, especially in a hospital setting. So before going into surgery people need to use common sense.

In the case of the older folk trusting doctors, well...that's what the kids and Grand kids are for.

Even with my parents when they were dying of cancer I was constantly in the faces of the doctors asking questions and researching online any and all information(unfortunately found sodium dichloroacetate too late).

Medical industry is just that...an industry. They are in it to make money, not run a charity. If they have a choice between something they can make 100 bucks off of and something they make 0 off of, they will choose to make 100.