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U.N. Impedes Oil For Food Investigation

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posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 08:30 AM
Someone please explain things to me.

Who investigates the U.N? Does the U.N. investigate
itself and report to itself? Aren't there outside organizations
that need to be involved in investigating this? Who can
trust the U.N. to be honest or truthful or helpful in investigating
it's own obvious corruption that reaches into Koffi Annans own
family? NOT ME!

Every country that pays the U.N. bills should be investigating
the U.N.

Someone explain to me ... how does this work?

U.N. deserted leads in oil-for-food investigation
By Bill Gertz

A private intelligence firm hired by the United Nations to look into corruption in the oil-for-food program provided valuable leads to U.N. investigators, but they were ignored, the company's director says.

"We found it extremely frustrating to be in a position where we could do something significant to dramatically assist the investigation into the oil-for-food fraud and not be allowed to proceed," said Derek Baldwin, director of operations for IBIS Risk Management Services Inc.

Meanwhile, a U.N. panel investigating the humanitarian program yesterday refused to release documents to two U.S. senators, who last week accused U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan in a letter of blocking their subcommittee's probe into the matter.

In his reply to the letter sent by Sens. Norm Coleman, Minnesota Republican, and Carl Levin, Michigan Democrat, obtained by Agence France-Presse, U.N. panel chief Paul Volcker pledged to release "all evidence" bearing on its reports and findings but insisted that now was not the time to do so.

Mr. Baldwin said Mr. Volcker's panel, the Independent Inquiry Committee (IIC), tasked his company in June to use its intelligence sources in the Middle East and Europe to assist the probe of the $64 billion program.

In a report produced for the IIC, the company uncovered new information and people with knowledge about the oil-for-food activities in Iraq, Cyprus, Jordan, Kuwait, Iran, Dubai, Egypt, Switzerland and France. U.N. investigators asked IBIS to reveal its sources for the data and then said they wanted to limit the scope of the company's work to Jordan, Kuwait and Cyprus, Mr. Baldwin said.

"We don't reveal our sources and methods," he said, noting that the company has had agents in Iraq since the early 1990s, including former Iraqi intelligence and oil ministry officials.

Three of the company's sources were killed recently in terrorist violence, he said.

Mr. Baldwin said new information related to the U.N. oil-for-food program uncovered by the company includes:

A network of Iranians who were involved in smuggling oil under the U.N. program.

Connections between the U.N. program and a French organized crime figure who U.S. officials said was a conduit for oil-for-food-related payments to French President Jacques Chirac.

Information on the Swiss-based company Cotecna, which was involved in border inspections of oil-for-food goods. Cotecna at one point during the oil-for-food program hired Mr. Annan's son as a consultant.

Data on the activities of an Egyptian oil broker who took part in illegal activities related to the oil-for-food program.

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[edit on 11/17/2004 by FlyersFan]

posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 06:07 PM

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Every country that pays the U.N. bills should be investigating
the U.N.

[edit on 11/17/2004 by FlyersFan]

they should but everyone is fighting each other and not looking inside.
notice how we seem to be trying to tear down old treaties and unions and organisations yet createing "better" ones.
what happened to the joining of nations in the cold war?
what happened when the west looked inward and helped each other and where the east done the same?

posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 06:10 PM
Of course the UN is impeding this investigation because they know if the truth is revealed the UN will go the way of the League of Nations.

posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 06:16 PM
does this really suprise anyone?

posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 06:18 PM

Originally posted by American Mad Man
does this really suprise anyone?

not really when no nation looks internaly at the UN they just are concenred about thier countries and what they can gain from the UN.
take the geneva convention , that leveled the playing field.

posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 07:05 PM
now would be a good time to start label it occultic while the liberals have conceded on values and are trying to be the family party. interlink the two issues through the media and do a mole hunt on the dems already weakend party for the un lovers while uniting the religous right and the swing voters against the issue the UN.

the dems only defence would be to expose the un and france lovers to the slaughter in order to appeal and we can finally pull out of the UN once and for all. but first we got to get the troops out of iraq , i propose moving them inside isreal and evacuating through the mediterrian sea. Doing this will also allow bush to act on the creation of isreali and palestinian peace initiatives with the death of arafat while circumventing the french control/connections to the PLO.

hopefully they can use that to cause tension in the EU to divert the fact that we would start pulling out of nafta and other trade agreements, while starting to coin our own money. more than likely it would turn the EU against us, but that is good too while we can still afford military superiority.

of course we still have to get iraq to be able to fight off iran or china gets all the oil. by the dems insiting that we install democracy (though it may be good thing if they actually wanted one) they are weakening are postion and leaving our troops as sitting ducks. yet somehow the last 2 dictators have also turned against us as well. US is in a tough bind.

of course then we would have a one party state, and now theres yet another battle on the homefront. unless the dems sucessfully transform themselves as a more values party. They need to throw out the tratiors in their own party that allowed diebold machines to pass and are actually letting bush win so they can collapse the country economically thru the eu while breaking our spirit through the media in a desperate attempt to look like they arent really losing on purpose.

posted on Nov, 18 2004 @ 08:46 AM
The UN (like all human constructs) is not perfect.

The UN is comprised of it's membership, it is not some disconnected nefarious 'separate organisation'.

This story has been flogged to death by the US right and still they can't get anyone to take the slightest bit of notice outside of their fan club.

It's just exaggeration and petty propaganda to slate one of the few collective organisations left in my view.......with the US role in the so-called 'scandels' nicely air-brushed out.
No doubt the superficial and gullible will lap it up without a second's though.


posted on Nov, 18 2004 @ 08:49 AM

Originally posted by BlackJackal
Of course the UN is impeding this investigation
because they know if the truth is revealed the
UN will go the way of the League of Nations.

I was thinking more that if the truth is revealed,
then the leaders in the U.N. would be in prision
right next to SLOBO. Koffi, his son, the bought
off members of the Security Council (France, Germany,
Russia), etc. etc. ... They all are guilty of stealing
20+ billion dollars from Iraqis - that means people
starved to death, people died from lack of medicine,
people were raped because there wasn't enough
$$$ for a decent police force, people were subjected
to Saddam and his attrocities because those @#$%#
at the U.N. were getting rich off Saddam and they didn't
want the gravy train to end.

posted on Nov, 18 2004 @ 08:52 AM
Throw the bums out! The UN needs to move out of the US. They are already screaming "diplimatic imunity". Move them to Bagdad, heck, the Iraqi people already bought them anyway.

posted on Nov, 18 2004 @ 08:56 AM

Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
The UN (like all human constructs) is not perfect.
It's just exaggeration and petty propaganda ...

The U.N. isn't expected to be perfect, but it IS expected
to not steal 20 BILLION DOLLARS from the Iraqis - causing
death and misery to those very people they are supposed
to be looking out for. The biggest theft in recorded history
isn't 'exaggeration and petty propaganda' ... it's sad, and
it's CRIMINAL. The fact that France, Germany, and Russia -
were members of the security council and were bought off -
is CRIMINAL and IMMMORAL. Instead of protecting
the Iraqis (and Somolians, and Rwandas, and Ugandans, and ...)
they were lining their own pockets with illegal $$$, while
helpless people died and were tortured.

The U.N. is worse than useless ... it actually gets in the way
of helping those who they should be looking out for.

posted on Nov, 18 2004 @ 09:00 AM

Originally posted by DrHoracid
The UN needs to move out of the US.
Move them to Bagdad

Oh, that would be fun!! Send them to Bagdad ... let the
French, German, and Russian Security Council members walk
down the streets of Bagdad. Wonder what the Iraqi people
would say and do to the Security Council members who voted
to keep Saddam mass-murdering and torturing them just so
the Security Council could keep the illegal billions of $$$ they
were stealing from the Iraqis flowing in??? WOW! That would
be interesting justice!!

posted on Nov, 18 2004 @ 09:44 AM
As I state here:

The total oil vouchers for Jordan, Cyprus and Kuwait don't add up to the vouchers passed to French connections alone.


posted on Nov, 18 2004 @ 10:50 AM

Originally posted by Valhall
As I state here:

Interesting! Thanks for sharing.

posted on Nov, 18 2004 @ 11:03 AM
This investigation will go as far as the Energy Commission investigation. No where fast. There are too many people in the US government, Cheney included, that could get exposed.

It will be like the 9/11 commission. No one's fault. Let's fix it.

posted on Nov, 18 2004 @ 12:54 PM
so the people that helped invent it are the first to leave it in its time of crisis.
why doesnt the US help reinvent the UN instead of leaving?
i mean its only the current UN leaders, why dont they force them out?
the US/UK is just as much to blame as the french.

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