Shooting Incident Prompts Evacuation Of Terminal 3 At LAX

TerrorAlertRed
reply to post by khimbar

 

Now that's a solid souce....

As opposed to all the other valid sources in the thread you mean?

FlyersFan
Switched to FOX from CBS ... No flights will be taking off until the entire terminal is cleared AND every passenger is rescreened. This is going to screw up flights around the country. WOW. But I can understand why they are doing it ...

Quick, switch back to a real News station.
I wouldn't trust Faux news with this as far as I could
throw Ruppert Murdoch with one arm.

Photos (screenshots) from FOX11 news report showing a possible weapon used in the attack. They are already saying it is an AR-15, but it looks to me like it could be just a non-AR-15 semi-auto rifle actually.

Closeup...


Any more knowledgeable ATS'rs here recognize this rifle profile? In my non-learnerd mind, it is NOT an AR-15 on the face of it.

reply to post by sealing


Please...they all suck & are equally culpable in the propagation of propaganda

NBC = CNN = CBS = ABC = FOX

They all routinely tell different lies for different reason & all of them also have a terrible record for accurate reporting during a breaking news story.

reply to post by Krakatoa


Closeup makes it look like a Mini-14 but I dont recall ever seeing a wooden Mini with a telescoping stock like that.

reply to post by sealing

Funny. You posted how bad FOX is .. and the next post was a person posting the first pictures of the gun used and it was a FOX station that got the pictures out.

Now FOX is saying the police are calling it a semi-automatic weapon.

reply to post by Krakatoa


Definitely an AR-15 variant. Probably a DPMS or something cheap like that. Pistol grip, detachable magazine, and looks like it's maybe shorter than the minimum length. If the magazine holds more than 10 rounds (moot considering the other aspects) then it would be illegal, too.

The other thing it could be is a Kel-Tec SU16 or mini-14.

Looks like an illegal gun according to California law.

FlyersFan
reply to post by sealing

 

Funny. You posted how bad FOX is .. and the next post was a person posting the first pictures of the gun used and it was a FOX station that got the pictures out.

Now FOX is saying the police are calling it a semi-automatic weapon.

It is the "alleged" weapon used by the suspect. Nothing has been qualified yet...

NBC News on Twitter is reporting:

UPDATE: One TSA employee killed, one wounded in LAX shooting

Galvatron
reply to post by Krakatoa

 

Definitely an AR-15 variant. Probably a DPMS or something cheap like that. Pistol grip, detachable magazine, and looks like it's maybe shorter than the minimum length. If the magazine holds more than 10 rounds (moot considering the other aspects) then it would be illegal, too.

The other thing it could be is a Kel-Tec SU16 or mini-14.

Looks like an illegal gun according to California law.

edit on 1-11-2013 by Galvatron because: (no reason given)

Thanks! Imagine, someone breaking the strict gun laws in California! Whoudda thought? < rolls eyes >

reply to post by Krakatoa


Could also be a Saiga 7.62 variant with a 10 round magazine & collapsible stock

It's hard to tell with that picture

Here's a cheap DPMS:


Here's a Saiga:

Almost looks like one of those decarbinated AKs I saw once. The gas return tube is removed, exit port blocked w/handle welded to bolt. This serves a single purpose; to give the 7.62x39 more gumption exiting the barrel. basically turns the old Kalashnikov into a sniper rifle.

Press conference at 11:30 pst (2 minutes from now):

LA Times

Looks like they have a feed, but maybe someone else has a more direct link.

reply to post by coldkidc


Yeah, good thinking. The forearm just looks kinda short for an not converted Saiga, but the picture is so crappy. The curvature and width of the magazine definitely looks .223/5.56 to me. Those seem to be the options. AR-15, SU16, Mini-14, Saiga.

Either way, the features make the gun ilegal in California.

Fox 11:
- Witness 1 claiming only 50 ft away from incident that someone (possibly the suspect) was shouting angrily while firing. He could not make out the words, only the angry emotional tone of the voice. He also said he only heard one weapon firing at the time.

- Witness 2 says suspect was a little shorter than 6'1" (his height is 6'1" and he was shorter), short grey hair, fired 3 shots downstairs before the security check.

Crisis Communication

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"Crisis communication can include crafting statements, known as “messages,” often tested by research and polling. A rapid response capability—pioneered by the 1992 Clinton-Gore campaign operatives and refined during Bill Clinton's eight years under attack by his political adversaries while in the White House, has also become an essential element of crisis communication. Additional tactics may include proactive media outreach to get messages and context to the media, identifying and recruiting credible third-party allies who can attest to the company’s side of the story, and striking first, not waiting to be hit."
en.wikipedia.org...


Crafting statements? Messages? HSEEP teaches courses for this. How to BS with a straight face while role playing in their exercise/drills.

rimsinland.oes.ca.gov...$file/April%202011.pdf

I don't believe it's real! Am I supposed to forget about all the other scandals going on because of this? How long are they going to go on with this BS?

reply to post by Galvatron


Agreed - my first guess would be 30 round .223/5.56 mag judging from the pic - not going to be able to tell conclusively from that photo though unfortunately since I can count the pixels

And you're absolutely right about the law - not legal...

ETA: I think it might be a Mini 14...looks like a pretty good suspect judging from the length & shape of the forend - also .223 & sight bump @ top/back of receiver

Still waiting on the news conference, but the LA Times is reporting the alleged gunman is also dead:

11:20 a.m. The gunman who allegedly opened fire at LAX Friday morning, killing a TSA agent, is dead, law enforcement sources told The Times.

reply to post by ikonoklast

Still waiting on the news conference, but the LA Times is reporting the alleged gunman is also dead

That was almost a given

Galvatron
Either way, the features make the gun ilegal in California.

edit on 1-11-2013 by Galvatron because: (no reason given)

Do you think they should have put up another sign? Maybe the shooter just didn't see it.

It does look like a stainless mini, since we're guessing.

also

From FTA feeds, earlier they were mentioning a second, armed, suspect in custody. I heard it being reported live.


ETA: 2 minute warning to the live conference...

2nd edit... They're walking somebody down the sidewalk in cuffs right now, live. Not sure what the involvement is.