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ketsuko
reply to post by AlienScience
So, the correct response to someone coming in an Obama mask is to automatically assume that everyone needs to sit in an auditorium and be told how they need to feel guilty for being born with the wrong ethnicity which is what diversity training always boils down to in the end?
How about just sending out statements about how politics is unacceptable?
ketsuko
reply to post by AlienScience
It's the company's fault, so they punish the employees with a waste of everyone's time?
So whats your problem? The company is at fault. Not the employees. YET- the employees are the ones being punished.
AlienScience
reply to post by Common Good
So whats your problem? The company is at fault. Not the employees. YET- the employees are the ones being punished.
TRAINING IS NOT PUNISHMENT
It is very disturbing to see so many people that think training and learning is considered a punishment. This companies employees obviously have a lack of knowledge of diversity and thus need the training to better themselves.
It seems like you just want them to continue to be ignorant morons though that commit social faux pas
AlienScience
ketsuko
reply to post by AlienScience
It's the company's fault, so they punish the employees with a waste of everyone's time?
Honestly, only idiots see training as a punishment.
Have you ever worked in corporate America??? Most of the times there is required diversity training annually as a requirement...along with ethics training, sexual harassment training, and other industry specific training.
The OP and you seem to have an issue with the company responding to this obvious breach of workplace ethics by providing their employees with training to give them the expectations of the company. And it seems like you have an issue with this because of the unhealthy obsession you have with hating Obama.
Why are you and others so hell bent on trying to make this an issue...anyone who has worked in a professional setting knows that this costume was a dumb idea. The professional environment is not ATS...it is not high school...it is not your own personal platform to make political statements...even on Halloween.
Common Good
AlienScience
reply to post by Common Good
So whats your problem? The company is at fault. Not the employees. YET- the employees are the ones being punished.
TRAINING IS NOT PUNISHMENT
It is very disturbing to see so many people that think training and learning is considered a punishment. This companies employees obviously have a lack of knowledge of diversity and thus need the training to better themselves.
It seems like you just want them to continue to be ignorant morons though that commit social faux pas
So now this is about training not being a punishment?
If you cant stay on topic- stop replying.
No training needs to be addressed...the employees wore a costume for a halloween party that someone didnt like.
As far as we know- there was no guidelines or rules on costumes ahead of time for the party.
The people have no reason to be offended, period.
Obama does belong in a straight jacket. If someone dressed up as Obama without a straight jacket- you think anyone would care? nope.
Just another reason for people to go "wahhh"
All it is is a group of left wingers, panzie-azz mama's boys that are pretending, yes folks, pretending, to be offended.
xuenchen
reply to post by snarky412
All it is is a group of left wingers, panzie-azz mama's boys that are pretending, yes folks, pretending, to be offended.
You hit the nail square on !!
I think they truly love the attention.
It's part of the psychological profile (on the normal side)
But part of the psychiatric profile (on the abnormal side)
AlienScience
BobAthome
reply to post by AlienScience
"person attempting to make fun of Obama.",,he's not a God,sweety,,the person wasn't attempting,,he was definetly making fun of him,,,true,,,
to make fun of Obama.????,,,like i said,,didnt know u were not allowed too make fun of certain people,,unless he is Challenged in some way,,is he Challenged?? ,,u know,,special??
It's all fun and games when you agree with what is being made fun of...but when the shoe is on the other foot...I bet it's a different story. Do you think Christians would be okay with a co-worker dressing up as a cross-dressing Jesus Christ that is suggesting he is a pedophile? What if the employer awarded him for best costume? Do you think that is appropriate for the workplace? I don't...and I'm sure many Christians wouldn't either.
Don't look now but just because we haven't had direct retribution yet doesn't mean we are getting away with it!! Does anyone really believe NSA stopped with just Google and Yahoo?
Wrabbit2000
I don't believe we have ever, in our history, had a President SO totally and absolutely insulated by official policies both private and public from satire and ridicule. Of course, the coverage isn't universal and plenty still get their say. Some right here, daily, as an example. Still, this pattern of what I can only call collective retribution upon anyone who dare openly ridicule or mock this man is chilling.
I recall first learning of the downright stupid extremes (to my American mind) other nations protected their leaders from anything bad said. Take Thailand for instance, where a direct insult about the King can and does lead to jail time. Absurd, I once thought.
Now we have a Ki...err...President for whom many forms of acceptable protest or satire in the past can lead to the end of careers, personal and professional persecution and more. I keep saying ..this just isn't the America I grew up in. So much has changed...and very little is the same as it was, even a decade and a half ago.
I want my country back.
AlienScience
ketsuko
reply to post by AlienScience
It's the company's fault, so they punish the employees with a waste of everyone's time?
Honestly, only idiots see training as a punishment.
Have you ever worked in corporate America??? Most of the times there is required diversity training annually as a requirement...along with ethics training, sexual harassment training, and other industry specific training.
The OP and you seem to have an issue with the company responding to this obvious breach of workplace ethics by providing their employees with training to give them the expectations of the company. And it seems like you have an issue with this because of the unhealthy obsession you have with hating Obama.
AlienScience
Wrabbit2000
reply to post by theantediluvian
The article doesn't specify the type or nature of the "diversity training." There's not even an actual quote, this is just WP reporting on something originally reported on by a Fox affiliate (both Rupert Murdoch owned) without doing anything that could be remotely deemed "journalism."
Okay, so you are saying the Diversity training ordered as a result of this specific skit wouldn't have been related to race at all? I mean, that is what I'm taking from what you're saying. That it either wasn't, or isn't likely to have been any part of it.
I wonder.... If someone showed up in a Bush costume ..and lets get away from politically explosive passion here to say Daddy Bush. Lets say someone showed up to look like George HW Bush playing on the 'Read my lips..No New Taxes' line we all heard back then and just can't quite forget for how blatant that lie was.
You figure diversity training would still have been ordered for everyone ...because it was a political thing to have played on that? It should have been. If political was the basis. I kinda doubt it would have worked that way though.
Some people here need to learn some professionalism and check their overly righteous "freedom of speech" obsession at the door. You don't have freedom of speech at work...they can restrict whatever they like at work.
Honestly, some people's hate, including yours, of Obama is just downright disturbing.
It is very funny because I seem to remember a famous quote of a president(that I liked) being spread all over America by people wearing costumes. "I am not a crook" I sure don't recall anyone having a problem with that. Heck we were all too busy laughing our a##es off!!! By the way I left out the name of the president intentionally but everyone knows who I am talking about even those not born yet or who were small children at the time. That's how popular it was!!
AlienScience
reply to post by snarky412
Even in Kentucky, I'm sure there are those that support Obama...and this costume wasn't a "I'm dressing up to look like Obama costume"...it was a "I'm trying my hardest to disrespect Obama costume".
A costume like this is only "funny" to those of you that share the opinion of the person attempting to make fun of Obama...and if that happens to be a majority of those at this office party and they all start hooting and hollering about how stupid Obama and his supporters are...that creates a hostile workplace for those that support Obama.
It is the same reason a workplace wouldn't allow someone to wear a costume of a pedophile priest, or a costume of dead terrorist, or a costume of a pimp, or a costume of a "redneck". Costumes like these are not for the workplace...Obama in a straight jacket is not a workplace costume. If you don't understand that, then maybe you need to attend a diversity class yourself.
You know, I hear a lot of people on ATS talk about their employment troubles...and it's threads like these that make it clear to me why that is.
Well the point was definitely missed. But by whom? Let's see.....Obama has done many things to suggest he should be put in a straight jacket(in my humble opinion)....but when has Christ ever crossed dressed or committed any pedophile acts?
AlienScience
BobAthome
reply to post by AlienScience
"person attempting to make fun of Obama.",,he's not a God,sweety,,the person wasn't attempting,,he was definetly making fun of him,,,true,,,
to make fun of Obama.????,,,like i said,,didnt know u were not allowed too make fun of certain people,,unless he is Challenged in some way,,is he Challenged?? ,,u know,,special??
You clearly missed the point.
If you want to make fun of religion, politics, genders, or sexual orientation...you are free to do so...but doing that at the workplace creates a hostile work environment for some people. It is the employers responsibility to provide a non-hostile workplace.
It's all fun and games when you agree with what is being made fun of...but when the shoe is on the other foot...I bet it's a different story. Do you think Christians would be okay with a co-worker dressing up as a cross-dressing Jesus Christ that is suggesting he is a pedophile? What if the employer awarded him for best costume? Do you think that is appropriate for the workplace? I don't...and I'm sure many Christians wouldn't either.
If you want to be an ignorant person and waste your time trying to think up ways to make fun of and offend other people...knock yourself out...but you don't get to demand you can do it anywhere you like.
It is so clear to see that so many in this thread have never worked in a professional environment.