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Dealing with Anger Against Corrupt "Authorities"

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posted on Nov, 16 2004 @ 04:30 PM
Our recent United States history shows that the Regime in power has no respect for the Truth.

They quashed the 911 investigation, despite all the inconsistencies and paradoxes in the official version of this terrorist gambit.

They quashed protests against Diebold's voting machines although it has been shown those machines produce any outcome that the programmer wants to evince, with less than 200 lines of code.

They have totally dominated Congress--getting TWO "Patriot Acts" passed that basically NULLIFY our entire Constitutional basis, without the Representatives or Senators even having read the documents.

They have repudiated the entire "due process of Law" and have come to terrorize whole nations in the Mideast, to gain access to their oil, for corporate buddies--influence-peddlers.

They have acted to return to ENVIRONMENTAL DESTRUCTION, anywhich way that Industry can wrest "profits" out of the ground, and regardless of long-term consequences.

They are summarily bankrupting the Treasury, over-extending our Military; treating our soldiers as DU-cannon fodder and subjects for experimentation with bad vaccines.

And you tell me, I have no right to be angry with corrupted authorities; that I have no right to dissent against the war and human rights crimes that are in front of my face; and that it is an irrational person who is going to protest this take-over by "friends of the Islamic Jihad," namely, the NWO segment of the United Nations who want the TAKE-DOWN OF THE USA???

I'm out of line, eh?

Oh. Imagine that.

posted on Nov, 16 2004 @ 04:51 PM
You have a knack for summing up in a situational analysis, it's a very good official Bush administration blueprint. Are you in the inner circle?

But the citizens through the electoral process want all these things to happen, right under their noses. They said so at the recent "re-election" and delivered confirmation of a mandate that the policies of the Bush administration were good and right.

It is thereby captured in the mythology of "democracy" and "majority rule" for the simple-minded, which is what good citizens are meant to be.

Or... did they say so?

posted on Nov, 16 2004 @ 04:55 PM
the blame is now squarely on the american people. Bush stole the 2000 election, but this time, there is no excuse (that we know of).

posted on Nov, 16 2004 @ 06:00 PM
I am not as certain as you that the election is on the square. I read of fraud investigations at state levels across the land. Ohio being the loudest. I do not and never did see Kerry as a viable contender. He, they, are Skull and Bones a Society of Power within our own. It was a designer campaign, Kerry was there to loose all along. He was and is loyal first to the Order.
What puzzels me to an extent is why with all the information available at the touch of a finger and all the historical information and facts that can be cross referenced and verified is this still considered a conspiacy theory? It is not a theory it is a fact and it is evolving on TV right in front of your eye's. Yet still America can not see it or even concieve of it.
All we need now is an attack on the Capital and Congress by agents of Terror and we will reincarnate the Nazi rise to power. The only item missing that would make it stick out more and poke you in the eye would be if the Govenor of California was standing there instead. UNBELIVEABLE

Polar Bear

Americans need to understand the difference between patriotism and nationalism. A patriot loves his land and his people. A nationalist loves his government. The patriot voluntarily does what is necessary to protect his land and his people. A nationalist blindly obeys his government.
-- Charley Reese

posted on Nov, 16 2004 @ 06:07 PM
Your list is a list of conspiracies, yet you speak of them as if they are fact. You must have had plenty of ulcers when Klinton was in office as his corruption wasn't wild allegations! My suggestion in dealing with the anger is to relax, drink a beer, watch a comedy, and realize that any creation of mankind will have corruption. Like it or not, people tend to be corrupt.

posted on Nov, 16 2004 @ 06:08 PM
Emily, what can I say...except you go girl

posted on Nov, 16 2004 @ 06:13 PM

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
any creation of mankind will have corruption. Like it or not, people tend to be corrupt.

Glad you and your canine had no ill effects from your commie pinko eyepatches.

Beer is an anger accelerant. Sitcoms are an agent for brain decay. Couple that with your view that humanity is corrupt by nature, and your recipe for improvement of the human condition is "as good as Bush's". Well done.

I am strangely reminded of an obsolete jingle for tea.

posted on Nov, 16 2004 @ 07:36 PM
Poor Thomas,

George Bush has bragged that "as long as we keep
food on their table, gas in their gas tanks and a roof over their heads,
we dont have to worry about the BUDsters." The arrogant senior Bush
calls the American people BUDsters." It stands for Broke, Useless
and Depressed.
Thats quite a joke coming from the former head of the CIA. After all,
they refer to themselves-with no irony at all-as "Criminals In Action
Stew Webb

As is always allmost true, I agree with ma on this one

posted on Nov, 16 2004 @ 08:14 PM
When I saw 'Dealing with Anger Against Corrupt "Authorities"', I thought, "Good! Someone is finally going to offer some good advice for constructively dealing with this kind of anger!"

Oh well. In lieu of that, I guess we're still stuck with the trendy and popular temper tantrums, baseless slanders, high-pitched keening, incoherent litanies and self-marginalization that are so "hip" with the kids on ATS these days.


posted on Nov, 16 2004 @ 08:17 PM
We all know this.

[And the fact that the election was going to be rigged was revealed to me in poppy_bush's transcript of chit-chat last January 25th. That's why I expected and was looking for the rigging, up front.]

Not only do Diebold machines give any outcome that the programmer wants to program in with less than 200 lines of code--

Not ONLY was the OTHER candidate merely another Skull and Bones FRAT BOY--

Not only has the ReTHUGLICAN party been busy gerrymandering districts for the last four years--

Not only have election districts been culling the rolls of eligible Democraps--

all these things happening at once guaranteed that it didn't matter how we voted.

The American people are not to be blamed; we've been sold out and framed; lied to and cheated.

When are some of these class-action suits against the PNAC Fascist CABAL finally going to TAKE HOLD????

We need to impeach the whole gang before the Inauguration, so we can get on with cleaning up the MESS.

And never mind, that dissent is becoming illegal. We've gotta speak UP!

posted on Nov, 16 2004 @ 08:22 PM

Originally posted by Polar Bear
George Bush has bragged that "as long as we keep
food on their table, gas in their gas tanks and a roof over their heads,
we dont have to worry about the BUDsters." The arrogant senior Bush
calls the American people BUDsters." It stands for Broke, Useless
and Depressed.

I've seen that quote floating around ATS. Where does it come from?

posted on Nov, 16 2004 @ 08:54 PM

Originally posted by Emily_Cragg
We've gotta speak UP!

off you go. what have you been doing lately? attended a rally? put up posters? campaigned politicians? if so, well done. Otherwise, get out there and do something about it instead of all the self-righteous preaching.

posted on Nov, 16 2004 @ 08:59 PM

Originally posted by Majic

Originally posted by Polar Bear
*snip* The arrogant senior Bush
calls the American people BUDsters." It stands for Broke, Useless
and Depressed.

I've seen that quote floating around ATS. Where does it come from?

At least one source, about the sixth paragraph down.

*walks off, muttering, "no one likes to post links anymore"*

[edit on 16-11-2004 by DontTreadOnMe]

posted on Nov, 16 2004 @ 09:10 PM
all this corruption anger and war is it the calm before the storm/storm before the calm?

also its best not to let this stuff get you angry or rage, as this only allows the same type spirits of the people/groups you are raging about work through and around you.

and then you end up becoming what you hate.

[edit on 16-11-2004 by MysticOfRadiance]

posted on Nov, 16 2004 @ 10:21 PM
DontTreadOnMe: Thanks for the tip. It took a bit of digging to find the originator of this quote, since that site somewhat indirectly references a (United We Stand America -- their website refuses connections at the time of this writing) post, "Inside the Bush Crime Family" (Dowbenko 2000) as its source. In that post, Uri Dowbenko quotes Stewart Webb as his source.

Polar Bear: If you're curious about where that quote came from, you can find it here: The "BUDsters" quote originates with Webb, and as far as I can tell, is utterly unsubstantiated.

Stewart Webb, for those who may be curious, describes himself as "Americas Foremost Federal Whistleblower". You can learn a lot more about him by visiting his website, which -- in my opinion -- pretty much spells out how credible he is.

For those uninterested in visiting his site -- which, in fairness, has all sorts of interesting information on it -- here's a sample from the home page:

"George W. Bush is there, in power to complete what the other Sinister Satanists did not complete. Poppy Bush gives the orders, Jr. Bush does what Daddy says. Jr. is to dumb to be President, an IQ of 92. Subtract Jrs short circuited & burned out brain cells, from Jrs, daily coc aine, alcohol and ritalin abuse, what is left 25-50, insanity."

Here's a sample of some of his litigation: Re straining Order Filed against Bush, Cheney and others.

From the complaint:

"Since the time that Plaintiff Stewart A. Webb re-filed for Motion to present evidence before a Federal Grand Jury case # 95-Y-107 July 3, 2003, Defendants Leonard Millman (Deceased Nov 2003) and George W. Bush White House Occupant, have knowingly and willfully have engaged in a pattern of conduct of threatening and harassing Plaintiff Stewart Webb and Plaintiff's Witnesses Presidential Candidate Thomas Heneghan and former Vice President/The Duly Elected None Inaugurated President of The United States Of America Albert Gore Jr."

Unless someone can corroborate Mr. Webb's claims, I must consider that they are highly suspect. Frankly, I have seen this before, and doubt that anyone here hasn't -- if they are into "conspiracy theory" as a hobby (or religion, for that matter). I enjoy a lovable tinfoiler as much as the next guy, but this is just sad.

I realize that ATS is a "conspiracy website", but a source like Stewart Webb is probably not the best choice for those truly interested in denying ignorance.

When quoting such things as these, its a good idea to consider the source. Otherwise, you are just being played for a fool.

posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 02:54 AM
Hope you feel better now Majic, if you read the quote I left you would have seen Stews name at the bottom and placed it in a search engine instead of whining and asking for help. Then return and rant

p.s. You can also find it here with alot more cross references and factual data.

Polar Bear

[edit on 17-11-2004 by Polar Bear]

posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 03:38 AM
No one in all seriousness can act against GW, the fear of being labelled a terrorist and sent off to boy scout camp indefiniely, with no legal rights basically sums up that little scenario.

More people would act, if our civil liberties were not compromised by The George Orwell, I mean Patriot Act.


posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 04:54 AM
i dont want to fight them thats our only choice its not going to be pretty. plus as alex jones said "its cool to put on a black uniform."
i dont want death but what are we gonna do about it? our government has too much control its no hope useless. no one knows anything my older brother is watching jurrasic park and hell is prepare its onslaught with a rain of fire! how are we going to deal with this? i dont want to kill people, but thats what my government wants me to do, either kill terrorist or waste your life on games and TV theres nothing left to do. study and work you say? that would require contributing to their wicked motives, which will in the end do more damage then if you unloaded your hyper missle machine gun war head ballistic rocket launcher from your apache into the suburbs of mosul. people are blindly contributing to the war juggernaut of our government and there is no alternitive, work, study in the end the fruits of every single labor goes to them, for them. the food chain has been mucked up real bad, wat to do.... wat to do....

[edit on 17-11-2004 by sturod84]

posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 05:48 AM
Well, my first suggestion would be that whatever you decide to do, be peaceful about it......homeland security.....

Write letters, to as many legislatures on your state and federal level. Be respectfull and polite, do the research, present the facts, express your concernes, and well if that you are presenting isn't accepted by mainstream press, ask them to look into the matter. And, well, if you think that you have some ideas that might solve the problem suggest them.

Write letters to the newspapers and tv stations, ask them to investigate some of these not-so-known theories that are going around. If you have seen stories in other media like BBC (they covered the story about Bush's mental health screening, haven't heard anything from our media about it.) ask them why a newspaper overseas has covered stories that they seem ignorant about. Let them know that you have also written to their competitors, and well, if you see one of their competitors covering this while they aren't, the will lose a viewer.

Write letters to companies like Diebold...or whatever their names is, ask them to explain just how these machines can be "tamper free" or to explain their connections to the repbublican party.


One of our tv channels has a thing where you can write in and ask your questions and suggest stories, the latest thing with AT&T with their false charges leading to unwanted telemarketing tactics was first exposed on this station.....the result, AT&T had action brought against them from several different states... It played a part in the recent state elections, and well, maybe we have managed to convince the state government to reform the way the do things.
It seems to be working to some extent, but well, none of the stations really seem that willing to buck Bush too much, and now that he's been reelected, it seems like they are bucking less.....a result of the "we need to unify america"?

the only other thing I could suggest is that you be content in just earning what you need to survive and deprive them of their precious tax money.

posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 05:57 AM
Thank God for 3rd Party Candidates.....

"A statewide recount of the presidential vote appears inevitable after a pair of third-party candidates said they have collected enough money to pay for it.

The recount would be conducted after the election results are certified in early December.

Libertarian Michael Badnarik and the Green Party's David Cobb said on Monday they raised more than $150,000 in four days, mostly in small contributions.

Ohio law requires payment of $10 per precinct for a recount, or $113,600 statewide.

Badnarik and Cobb said they aren't trying to overturn President Bush's 136,000-vote victory in Ohio, but just want to ensure that all votes were counted properly in the face of concerns about Election Day irregularities."

wonder if Kerry contributed anything??

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