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As he is presented with the "scientific facts" which Geneva generated since decades, (the new pope - the one after Benedict XVI) destroys the Vatican once and for all, saying that Vatican was, and always has been, the Antichrist's dwelling. The people will love him.
If there's one group of people who are going to be difficult to convince that change is needed, it's a college of Cardinals.
These guys elect the pope, so they are the real power in the church. All of these 70 or 80 year old men with draconian views of the world.
I love this new pope.
No really, and I'm an agnostic, bordering atheist.
Riffrafter
Just how did he get elected?
aLLeKs
actually I read in some German news source that an unnamed source inside the vatican said that the pope makes himself a lot of enemies withing the vatican.
jjkenobi
Can someone explain "ideological Christians"? Does it boil down to you can do anything you want, nobody can say you are wrong, to heck with morals, and everyone will still go to Heaven?
Mat 24:4-5 KJV 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Mat 24:10-11 KJV 10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Mat 24:24 KJV For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Luk 18:8 KJV I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
2Th 2:3 KJV Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
1Ti 4:1 KJV Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2Ti 3:13 KJV But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
2Ti 4:3-4 KJV 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
2Pe 2:1-3 KJV But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
2Pe 3:3-4 KJV 3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
OneManArmy
tothetenthpower
So now, that you have what seems to be a real Christian at the head of the church, what will the super ultra right wing religious people say?
That he's the devil? That he doesn't understand the teachings of Jesus and the Bible?
A true christian doesnt worship christ
In the last days the people will call good evil and evil good, and we were told when the last days began and that was in 1967 when Israel became a nation again.
I expect a non-Christian to deny Jesus, but not the Pope.
SOURCE
Notice How so Many Catholics Must Constantly Defend What Francis “Meant”?
If you have followed the many comments about Francis homilies and particularly his interviews, you will notice that many Catholics are constantly defending Francis not for what he said, but for what he meant.
They are putting their “orthodox spin” – and it is spin – to make what was really said sound like it was meant to be in harmony with Catholic dogma and doctrine. You may recall that the Vatican stopped publishing the full text of his daily Mass homilies because of the questions raised as to the doctrinal authenticity early after Francis election.
Francis Misleads that Jesus is not God, not Divine, not Creator
Francis’ states in his interview with Eugenio Scalfari:
“And I believe in God, not in a Catholic God, there is no Catholic God, there is God and I believe in Jesus Christ, his incarnation. Jesus is my teacher and my pastor, but God, the Father, Abba, is the light and the Creator. This is my Being. Do you think we are very far apart?”
In addition to being the first Latin American pope and Francis in the pontificate, he is also the first Jesuit Pope. Jesuits are known for their free thinking, intellectual contributions and are known to be teachers. There are Jesuit-run universities and they have their own presses and publish a variety of academic books. Jesuits are academically oriented.
Jesuits in Latin America received a bad reputation because of their development of liberation theology, a highly controversial movement condemned by Pope John Paul II. Liberation theology is essentially Christianized Marxism.
The term first coined in 1973 proposed that the Gospels demanded that the church concentrate its efforts on liberating the world’s people from poverty and oppression. They adopted Marxist ideas, supported revolutionary movements and criticized traditional church institutions. Essentially liberation theology is a form of Christian communism and based on the view that the teachings of Jesus Christ compel Christians to support communism as the ideal governmental system.
Christian communists believe that the Apostles practiced communism and that it was taught by Jesus who they hail as the first Marxist. When Pope Francis was Provincial Superior of the Jesuits in Argentina, he was accused of not having protected two priests who were kidnapped, and it was suggested that he was partly responsible for the priests’ prolonged detention, The human rights group Center for Legal and Social Studies in Argentina actually opposed Francis’ selection as pope.
CNN also reported that it was even alleged that Francis lied under oath during an investigation into the theft of babies from prisoners during the dictatorship. Francis testified that he never knew about the baby-stealing until after the dictatorship had fallen. An interviewed victim claims that Francis knew about it at the time. She said she had written to Francis about it. These stories hint of a possible dark side to Pope Francis.
tothetenthpower
because true Christians don't go around judging others for their behavior and creating legal challenges for their rights. Nor do they call for violence or mistreatment of people who do not follow their ways.
~Tenth