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There are red markings on stones within the relieving chambers made by the builders to identify their placement in the structure and the gang responsible for placing them.
For the record, the burden of proof lies with the person proposing the theory.
edit on 22-10-2013 by theantediluvian because: (no reason given)
SC: The GP and Giza date to 16,940 BCE (almost 19,000 years old). The evidence that proves this is right there at Giza.
MQ: Scott, let's see if we can zero in on this a bit ...
John Romer, The History of Ancient Egypt
In distant prehistoric times, both the Nile's flow and intrusions into the [Mediterranean] sea into its delta had been so violent as to delete all record of earlier human activity [in the greater Delta/coastal regions]. In the seventh millenium BC [c. 6,000BC], for example, the Nile had flowed so fiercely through its delta that it had channeled into a single outflow into the Mediterranean, the so-called "Great River", which had run from due north from the ending of the valley's limestone cliffs ...
The ancient Nile was different from the modern river too, its flow much stronger than it would become in later phases of its history. In consequence, the beginning of the delta, where the fast, wide river broke into half a dozen different streams and spread out like a fan, was further south than it is at present, at a point where the valley cliffs nip close together near the pyramids of modern day Saqqara.
So as I understand you, you are taking the 3 Giza Ps back roughly 10K years before Romer's 6KBCE superflood, which would mean that it wiped out everything except them [and the Sphinx].
MQ: Simplifying, this is the "knowledge preservation" theory: Smart people in -16940 knew that the whole enchilada was going to go down the tubes 10K years hence, so they built 3 time capsules strong enough to survive it, along with a big cat to keep them company.
The problem I have with this is not that there aren't all sorts of mathematical & geometric formulæ reflected in the GP's construction, but that there's simply no way it could "teach" these things to the next batch of dry humans. They would have to discover such things for themselves, then recognize them to also be in the GP [just as our archæologists have done].
QM: It also stands to reason that if you're going to build three waterproof time capsules, they'd be much more practically laid out inside: rather like the Ford Knox Bullion Depository, with lots of sealed interior rooms [you didn't see the real thing in Goldfinger].
QM: If you needed more than one, they'd all be the same size and configuration,
QM: ...and for maximum survivability you wouldn't put all three in the same place. Suppose the whole Giza plateau had disintegrated?
QM: If you were worried about a superflood, moreover, where would you build your capsules? Right next to the river that was going to kick ass? Well no, you'd find the highest, most solid mountain range around and stick them up there, right?
QM: So we've got to find a way to explain the 3Ps being built right next to the Nile, with only a few impractical rooms and "stored knowledge" that must be prelearned elsewhere.
QM: And we've also got a bit of a neter problem. The gentlemen who wrote The Orion Mystery proposed that if you took the arrangement of the 3Ps [upside down!?] ...
QM:...and compared it to the three middle stars of Orion, it was identical. [Some astronomers have suggested it wasn't at all, but let's give TOM the benefit of the doubt for the moment. The next question is: So what?
As best as I can make out, the big deal about this is that Orion = Osiris, who was the Egyptian god of death and resurrection, so positioning the 3Ps to hint at him was supposed to be a warning that humanity was going to do the same thing.
QM: Once again I have a bit of a problem with the obscurity of this message. In our own "post-superflood era" it's taken only 5K years for someone to notice this. And then again: So what? The pre-flooders already knew what was coming down, which is why they built the time capsules, right? They didn't need any Orion-reminder. And if it's supposed to mean something to us post-flooders, what that is is not very clear.
QM: Also there's the little problem that Osiris had nothing to do with the constellation Orion, nor did he even show up in Egypt until the V Dynasty [cf. Chapter #2 here.] When he did check in, he was associated with the Moon; cf. Lockyer's Dawn of Astronomy, et seq.. All of which means that if pre-6000 BCE 3P-builders were aligning them to the Orion constellation, they wouldn't have had the Osirian myth-cycle in mind.
”... Although it appears that in later times, the meaning of the word S3h (or the plural S3hu) was extended to refer to the constellation of Orion as a whole, yet the Egyptians never lost sight of the fact that only one star in this constellation embodied the spirit of Osiris… - John Legon
"While there is every likelihood that the Osirian material in the Pyramid Texts derives in part from a much earlier date, so far it has not proved possible to track down the god or his symbols tangibly to the First or Second dynasty." (Emphasis mine). - John G. Griffiths, The Origins of Osiris and His Cult, p.44
"Although there is a strong likelihood that the cult of Osiris began in or before the First Dynasty in connection with the Royal funerals at Abydos, archaeological evidence hitherto does not tangibly date the cult to an era before the Fifth Dynasty." (Emphasis mine). - Ibid.
"The myth of Osiris seems to be an echo of long forgotten events which actually took place." - Walter B. Emery, Archaic Egypt, p.122-23
"Much points to the conclusion that Osiris’s story was cloaked in a veil of distant antiquity even at this [Fifth Dynasty] early date. The discovery at Helwan of a very early Djed symbol and the ‘girdle of Isis’ (Isis being his female counterpart) shows that during the Archaic Period (Dynasty 1 and 2) Osiris’s cult already existed." (Emphasis mine). - Jane B. Sellers, The Death of Gods in Ancient Egypt, p.6
“It is, however, well known that the position of Osiris as the god-man was well established in the minds of the Egyptians at the beginning of the Dynastic Period, and that he was even at this remote time regarded as the head of a small company of five gods, each of whom was endued by his worshipers with human attributes. (Emphasis mine). - E. A. Wallis Budge , Osiris and the Egyptian Resurrection, p.28
QM: Identifying these problems doesn't get us any closer to clicking the Rubik's Cube of the GP into place; at most it just steers us away from some blind alleys. I do tend to think that Romer's 6000 BCE superflood [and presumably its predecessors] is part of the key. Giza being located at the center of the Earth's landmass [if this is indeed true] is also interesting. We may be starting to get into not just some localized flooding, but a far greater issue, having to do with the Earth's departure from its presumably-original "perfect" axis. The book which does a nice job introducing, if not resolving this question, is Joscelyn Godwin's Arktos. [Forget the cheesy "Nazi survival" subtitle.]
reply to post by Scott Creighton
Hmmm ... I have issues with the GP Timevault theory.
If A Data dump existed ... where is it ??
If you're going to build a structure to store all the worlds knowledge ....
C4L: Where are the stone tablets ? or Metal leaf books ? or other objects that would stand the test of time ?
C4L: Building a Pyramid to store or bunker something seems a tremendous effort to make ...
C4L: ... one can much more easily and safely go underground into hard rock formations.
If building a pyramid is so do-able, according to a dwindling
group of researchers then why haven't we built one?
Don't give me the ol' it costs, too much too much work yada..
It's THE most enigmatic structure known.
It's an Architects creme de la creme.
It would be an accomplishment unlike any in the modern world.
You would think that would be enough to have a few takers.
Even building one at half scale? It's so easy right? Jump right on in
engineers and builders, what are you waiting for?
We'll even let you build with lasers cranes and diamond tipped saws...
Still no takers?? Crickets ...
Don't tell me oh sure it can be done and not build one.
We have ZERO proof modern man can build the GP.
We have a 400 ft example lying in the desert that WAS built by
Man in antiquities.
reply to post by Scott Creighton
I think there is some merit in the seed vault theory as it applies to some sites in Egypt. I guess you build on the places where storage jars have been found and extrapolate to Cheops. I agree there is plenty of storage and you are wise to make a mockery of the afterlife nonsense ported by the mainstream. However storing seeds in a building that a) had water in it and b) bats could negotiate their way into is foolhardy to say the least.
SV has neither water flowing through it or bats