BREAKING 11:30 Republicans Caved: Reach Deal

The Republican Party is a mess, the Tea Party has fully imploded them.

They have lost on all accounts in this standoff...they shutdown the government like a bunch of spoiled children and had no exit strategy. Now a deal has been reached completely without their involvement, responsible moderate Republican have finally taken a stand against the Tea Party idiots and have done what Boehner didn't have the spine to do.

Hopefully moderate Republicans will continue to show that spine and kick the Tea Partiers out of the party for good, it's either that or watch their party die a quick death in the next couple elections.

reply to post by ragiusnotiel

What day hasn't that been reported? Besides you know, Sundays lol.

The difference is the timing and the leaks coming out of House republicans aides and offices.

They are saying it's over, they lost, and they will take the deal.

www.huffingtonpost.com...

reply to post by research3300


That's Entertaiin-ment!
/sarc on/
And I wasted four and a half cords of my winter firewood sending it off to keep that hundred and ten gallons of TAR in the cauldron liquified? We were going to do some serious T&F production here... and it was on a small fleet of semis:
with a gratis supply line from seven poultry farms.
We were portable. /sarc off/

Don't get me wrong---
I'm somewhat relieved the Phantom of the Nausea and What's-iz-Name got together and the world isn't going to make a gigantic Ross Perot vacuum cleaner thing for financial-death-rattle noise.

Now,, does anybody else see this as other than a sloppily scripted Greek comedy? Do you think after the EBT positive/negative glitches and the rest of this Pavlovian button pushing; these guys running the Terran Torture Terrace are of a healthy collective personality?? I SAY KNOT.

I never begrudged a Federal employee his/her living wage for an honest job done every day. But those Uppers should get the decay drilled out and filled. Welcome home, folks. Don't let them buffalo you, we always needed you.

If true (which is sounds like it isn't) nothing has changed.
Your still using extraordinary rules to print money to pay your debt when your broke.
Its a confidence game, people have given up on the USA!

Even if and when these idiots work out a deal, to RAISE the DEBT ceiling so they can borrow more money to dig us deeper into debt, they have already screwed up the Economy for the past 16 days...


Nothing not a damn thing positive is coming out of the economy, I mean woopie the idiot reached a deal to raise the debt ceiling up to bring our debt up even higher, to waste more money we do not have, woopie, I am betting these idiots put us back into another recession etc. Nothing good will happen even if they agree on not maxing out the credit card, and replace it with one that will be maxed out in Feb. 2014....

Whoever is buying US bonds, are insane....

reply to post by AlienScience


Okay well I honestly hope so. Thank you for the additional link.

Did you see this part?

Of course, before the House can even consider a deal, it must pass the Senate with unanimous consent. Whether it's really "over" hinges on the concession of the chamber's most reluctant members.

Seems like if even one has a 'mind of their own' and doesn't 'do as told' that the bill won't pass.

We see tomorrow.

Btw, I am not even a republican and know that this is a lie.

OP, who sent you? IMO not only will the shutdown continue but there will be no agreement for the debt ceiling. We are in trouble here.

reply to post by AlienScience

I went back and read the article again. You are correct as I misread.
You may think it a good idea to give the treasury that power but many of us do not.
Where does it stop Alien Science? Would you just have them continue printing money with nothing to back it but dept??
Where does that lead?

Say what you will about the TP but aside from lobbyists and bankers they seem to be the only other people able to influence the DC crowd. That earns them some respect in my book.
Many try to make the TP out to be evil terrorists. In truth the majority of that minority are just hard working everyday people who understand the longer we prolong what's coming the harder it's going to be to deal with.

reply to post by Bicent76


I agree. I gave up any real hope when the Fed refused to let Germany take back its gold. Not once, not twice, but THREE time and wouldn't let them touch it. Than told them to come back in 2020.

Cause you know..

1. In 2020 we won't be America any more (for one reason or 'ideal' or another)
2. The gold will actually be there (which means it's not now)..

Btw, Bill Richardson is on CNN right now speaking nothing but the unaltered truth. Cruz is a bully who is not only testing democrats but also republicans. Call his effing bluff. Boehner needs to unleash the wrath of conservatives on him. This is bad for not only the US but the entire world.

Now this is the NWO that we should be rallying against.

Well if all we 'need' is one NO we already have it. So even if this deal is real, it likely won't pass.

Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas, is among those Republicans who said he wouldn't back the measure being floated all day Tuesday, saying that it wouldn't get the 217 required votes to pass given that House Democrats have said they won't support it.

"There's no structural reform. There's no cost savings," he said. "It's just kick the can down the road another six weeks or two months."

CNN Article

The truth is nothing will be passed on Wednesday or Thursday and the world markets will tank hard on Friday .

Hello 2002 verson 2.0 extreme

reply to post by AlienScience

You actually think the democrat party is any better?
If so........
Are you getting paid to think that way?

It just seems strange how you rigorously harp on democrat talking points. It's almost like you get them straight from the top.
Sometimes I will watch cspan and hear the talking heads all saying the same thing and notice you spouting the same stuff on ATS.
Do they pay well?
I'm kinda looking for a second job right now, you know with the ACA and all..........

reply to post by research3300

And a Senate plan will need to clear the House, which has struggled to pass any bill to raise the national debt limit.

Read more: www.politico.com...

That's going to be a disaster because of the Tea Party extremist wing in there right now.

Several quick points:
Due to some last minute changing of Clause 4 of Rule XXII via H.J. Res. 59, only Eric Cantor R-VA, (Majority Leader of the House) or his designee, are only ones that have the 'privilege' of bringing Senate's bill to a vote.

Any Senator can still filibuster any Senate bill.

The Oct 17th default date is actually a misnomer of sorts, the true date is at least a week or so later.

AlienScience
The Republican Party is a mess, the Tea Party has fully imploded them.

They have lost on all accounts in this standoff...they shutdown the government like a bunch of spoiled children and had no exit strategy. Now a deal has been reached completely without their involvement, responsible moderate Republican have finally taken a stand against the Tea Party idiots and have done what Boehner didn't have the spine to do.

Hopefully moderate Republicans will continue to show that spine and kick the Tea Partiers out of the party for good, it's either that or watch their party die a quick death in the next couple elections.

Here's what you missed. Obamarama promised change. The Tea Party is exactly what he promised only not what anyone expected. Tea Partiers don't sit on their asses ... THEY VOTE. You can think that they lost on all accounts, but you need to feel the pulse of what goes on, even if it's just here on ATS. Expect more of the same. Just because the MSM are overwhelmingly socialist, doesn't mean the real public supports that ideology.

reply to post by research3300

It's all theater, the tea party wanted to say we did all we could. This was never going to cause a default as the government gets 225B a month in revenue and the debt payments are 25B.

Your 'plan' would require Congress to balance the budget. Something it has steadfastly refused to do since the G.W. Bush's second term. Congress continues to expand spending while reducing income, driving up the deficit and thus the required debt.

The Teahdists are doing this specifically to ensure these hostage taking charades will continue, year after year, crisis after crisis.

What actually needs to happen is that spending needs to continue to be reduced and the Bush Tax cuts need to be canceled in order to get the revenue stream and the expenditure streams back closer together.

CNN is even questioning Dana Bash. LOL

darkbake
reply to post by research3300

 

And a Senate plan will need to clear the House, which has struggled to pass any bill to raise the national debt limit.

Read more: www.politico.com...

That's going to be a disaster because of the Tea Party extremist wing in there right now.

Extremist?
How so?
Were the democrats "Extremists" when they passed the ACA using reconciliation?
Was President Obama an "Extremist" when he changed it after it became law?

We as Americans have a very short political memory.
All this is being blamed on the TP. By whom?
Those that are afraid of them and don't want to see this kind of thing take hold.
So they blame the TP, call them terrorists, crazies, extremists and a host of other names to scare people into not thinking for themselves.
Go ahead and believe the hype. Just remeber that in 2010 not a single republican voted for the ACA. This was before the 2012 midterms when those "Extremist" congressmen took office.

reply to post by ragiusnotiel


I don't think there has been a vote.
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