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Know Saul Alinsky And You Know Barack Obama And His [Marxist] Regime.

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posted on Oct, 15 2013 @ 08:13 AM
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You seem to believe that the purported GOP/DEM switch of sides

was


meaningful?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

How many of the quotes of the political leaders and other globalists in my links above have you read?

Evidently you still

UTTERLY FAIL

to realize that

the GOP and DEMS are merely two sides OF THE SAME COIN . . . manipulated in tandem by the puppet masters.




29."The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self createdscreen....At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties." New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, 1922

1883: What part has Skull & Bones played in our elections? Professor Carroll Quigley was President Clinton's mentor, and in Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World In our Time the professor revealed that William C. Whitney (S&B) and others, in the late 19th century, developed a plan to control both major political parties through financial contributions and have the two main parties alternate power so the public would think it had a choice. [7] Professor Quigley said Whitney's plan lasted about 16 years, and after that, the "Eastern Establishment" (power elite) moved the Democrat and Republican presidential candidates toward the political center:


twoday.net...


twga...

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posted on Oct, 15 2013 @ 08:21 AM
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buster2010
. . . After the civil rights movement the Republicans and Democrats changed sides. . . .


Do you even read what you write?

Like I said, AFTER the GOP HAD DONE ALL THE LONG HARD WORK toward Civil Rights legislation . . . persistently BLOCKED BY DEMS until terminally corrupt and ruthless Johnson was tasked by the globalists with pushing the legislation through in order to

MORE FULLY CONTROL the more uninformed and more myopically manipulated black population

And it's still working as massive numbers of black folks slavishly worship at the altar of O EVEN THOUGH HE IS SHREDDING THEIR JOBS, THEIR FREEDOMS, THEIR WELFARE AND THEIR NEST as well as their Christianity.

Incredible.



posted on Oct, 15 2013 @ 08:28 AM
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BO XIAN
reply to post by the owlbear
 


YES.

I read the Communist Manifesto in advanced English class in High School in 1964/65.


Along with Animal Farm,
Brave New World,
The Declaration of Independence,
The Constitution of the USA,
Walden's Pond,
1984,
John Lock: Of Civil Government,
chunks of Montaigne,
and a handful of others of such ilk.

For our year's paper, we answered the questions: WHO AM I? WHAT DO I BELIEVE? WHERE AM I GOING?


The OP IS 100% CORRECT.

Folks failing to realize the truths in the OP are evidently

--living in an alternate multiverse; &/or
--grossly uninformed; &/or
--willfully blind; &/or
--terminally undiscerning and unaware; &/or
--inexplicably terminally biased, narrow and rigid; &/or
--successfully propagandized and brainwashed beyond recovery; &/or
--mind-controlled beyond a shred of independent thought; &/or
--using an incredibly deficient DAFFYNITIONARY from Alice's rabbit hole; &/or
--seduced and homogenized beyond all individuality; &/or
--brain chipped and robotized by the critters; &/or

--mystifyingly orgasmic toward those who will happily line such acolytes up against the extermination wall early on as tyrants have always done throughout history . . . because the new regime can't tolerate such ignorance in the 'NEW ORDER.'

Sociologically and psychologically the attraction of the Traitor-in-Chief; the Destroyer-in-Chief; the Narcissist-in-Chief; the Pathological-liar-in-Chief; the Marxist-in-Chief; the Muslim-in-Chief; . . . to so many purported "Americans," is an outrageously shocking demonstration of reality turned on it's head and inside out.

I'd have never thought it possible in my lifetime, thinking about such things 50 years ago.

I realize now that Biblical prophecy more or less mandated it within the lifetime of those seeing Israel become a nation again in a day in 1948. It just still boggles the mind to see it transpire in such a short number of decades.

And that even now, at this late date . . . with soooo much evidence on the table . . . to see that some ATSers who obviously know how to type . . . to see that folks who can presumably get up and get dressed in the morning . . . are still snookered by the globalist SElected Teleprompter-in-Chief . . . is still shocking.

It's a clear testimony to Bertrand Russell's blathering about psychological social control of the masses to achieve one world government. They have virtually pulled it off without any significant problem. Maybe they are 10 years or so behind their earlier schedule. Not a biggy. They tyranny marches forward brazenly.

Some pigs are clearly more equal than others.

And a whole class of pigs still find it wonderfully darling to be losing resources, independence, freedom and capacities for logical thought by the day, if not by the hour.

Incredible.



Lot of pretty colors there, Bo


I am glad that you have read such seminal novels of social importance. But you obviously didn't understand their message. You use a larger font and colors to try to drown out the opinion of others while using a divisive 2000 year old religious text that has led to the deaths of millions as your source matter and be all be end all...sorry...we differ in opinion. Jesus was a socialist. And a pacifist. Read His words in the first four Gospels and ignore the rest, the Council of Nicea chose the rest for control over the easily manipulated...

You also grossly call anyone who doesn't believe as you "pigs" and "misguided". In my first post, I simply disagreed with the message given. I didn't feel the need to insult others as you have. The Christ would not be pleased with your sentiment toward others and your outright enmity toward others with a different outlook than you...I guess you don't even undertand your own belief system?
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posted on Oct, 15 2013 @ 08:29 AM
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One based on politics not conspiracies. The richest 1% recovered the quickest from his economic policies, the stock market is at it's highest, company profits are at their highest, executive pay is at it's highest, the gap between rich and poor is widening every day, what new jobs there are are in the lowest paid bracket, you don't even get free healthcare, you have one of the poorest literacy and numeracy rates in the West despite being the richest nation, most people are priced out of further education, civil rights are abandoned in favour of religious belief, there is the lowest number of lib democrats and minority rights campaigners in congress since the 30s, habeas corpus is suspended, imprisonment without trial still takes place, rule of law comes second to military law etc...

Europe isn't Marxist or Socialist, it's more centre ground whereas the US is right wing vs far-right wing.
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posted on Oct, 15 2013 @ 08:50 AM
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ManFromEurope

Logarockreply to post by YodHeVauHe
 

Armored police vehicle at veterans WWII Memorial. Contempt for veterans and military leaders says "Hay, I like Joe Stalin!".

*cough* Just look for pictures from "Stalin Mausoleum" - there are none armored police vehicles in sight.. Just another example of the massive distortion of facts provided in this kind of threads.
You know nothing about Marxism!
You know nothing about Stalinism!
You know nothing about Communism!
Yet you accuse your president of trying to establish those.
Really, I try to stay away from these nonsense threads, but sometimes the sheer amount of inaccuracy and full face lies overwhelms my walls of inobservance..


Your posting is actually dead wrong on all counts. And you should be reminded that before disparaging others, criticizing, and generally accusing members here on ATS, you better (aught to) get your facts right - otherwise you'll make a fool of yourself as you just did.

His [Stalin's] body was preserved in Lenin's Mausoleum until 31 October 1961, when his body was removed from the mausoleum and buried in the Kremlin Wall Necropolis next to the Kremlin walls as part of the process of de-Stalinization. There's Stalin's grave but that's a far cry from "Stalin's Tomb." There is no 'Stalin's Tomb,' or as you attempt to describe it - "Stalin Mausoleum"

See here please -->Lenin's Mausoleum Photo: Stalin's grave - located outside, behind Lenin's Mausoleum

Stalin's grave - located outside, behind Lenin's Mausoleum (jonotennis, Apr 2012)


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posted on Oct, 15 2013 @ 08:53 AM
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You should probably go take a nap.

Do you need a political history lesson?
REAGAN was even a Democrat until Roosevelt's Civil rights movement took hold...than he and nearly every racist (except Robert Byrd WV,) left the Democratic Party to become Repubs...it's far too early in the morning for me to have to get out the books and teach you about American history and government...btw...you left off Adam Smith's "Wealth of Nations".
All the so-called American Revolution did was give those wealthy landowners who had no title due to the outdated concept of filial piety a chance to have POWER. Check your Constitution. Who were the only people who could originally vote? WHITE MALE LANDOWNERS. that was all. And then those elected had to be approved by the body of "elected officials". Still do. The guise of democracy and republic can easily be seen as a sham just by looking at popular votes and the person placed in office over the last two hundred twenty years. Why were there at LEAST three armed rebellions after the Articles of Confederation were approved? Lack of the representative government promised and fought for by the poor for the benefit of the wealthy...in that same amount of time we have NOT been in an armed conflict for only 21years...that's right. Only 10% of the existence of the US has been without conflict...ponder that.



posted on Oct, 15 2013 @ 08:59 AM
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I have one request. Can somebody name a single policy promoted by Obama as President that can be truly labeled Marxist? Just one.



posted on Oct, 15 2013 @ 08:59 AM
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YodHeVauHe

ManFromEurope

Logarockreply to post by YodHeVauHe
 

Armored police vehicle at veterans WWII Memorial. Contempt for veterans and military leaders says "Hay, I like Joe Stalin!".

*cough* Just look for pictures from "Stalin Mausoleum" - there are none armored police vehicles in sight.. Just another example of the massive distortion of facts provided in this kind of threads.
You know nothing about Marxism!
You know nothing about Stalinism!
You know nothing about Communism!
Yet you accuse your president of trying to establish those.
Really, I try to stay away from these nonsense threads, but sometimes the sheer amount of inaccuracy and full face lies overwhelms my walls of inobservance..


Your posting is actually wrong on all counts. And you should be reminded that before disparaging others, criticizing, and generally accusing members here on ATS, you better (aught to) get your facts right - otherwise you'll make a fool of yourself as you just did.

His [Stalin's] body was preserved in Lenin's Mausoleum until 31 October 1961, when his body was removed from the mausoleum and buried in the Kremlin Wall Necropolis next to the Kremlin walls as part of the process of de-Stalinization. There's Stalin's grave but that's a far cry from "Stalin's Tomb." There is no 'Stalin's Tomb,' or as you attempt to describe it - "Stalin Mausoleum"

See here please -->Lenin's Mausoleum Photo: Stalin's grave - located outside, behind Lenin's Mausoleum

Stalin's grave - located outside, behind Lenin's Mausoleum (jonotennis, Apr 2012)


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Do we need to place pictures of statues of Washington, Jefferson, and others to display the EXACT SAME CULT OF PERSONALITY?



posted on Oct, 15 2013 @ 09:01 AM
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kimar
I have one request. Can somebody name a single policy promoted by Obama as President that can be truly labeled Marxist? Just one.


The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

The main problem is with the implementation and the manner of its Marxist/socialist agenda as a Stasi styled intrusion into our fundamental expectations of privacy - on all levels - by the one's whose responsibility it is to police the law. The invasiveness is across the board and is extreme; reminiscent of the oppressive behavior of Marxist/Stalinist regimes, and/or the operations of a Stasi police state in all of it pernicious forms. Its truly an abomination as far as liberty and freedom in America are concerned. it tramples the Constitution and the Bill of Rights into the ground.

Understanding the PPACA in one simple lesson. Americans will be shocked to learn the extent to which they have been deceived. The legislation neither protects the patient nor are the plans affordable. Let's beak it down shall we: The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. This is an extremely carefully worded phrase and, even though its supposed to enable everyone in America free access to health care, the very first thing we notice is the absence of the all important term "Health." Although the 'Act' deals primarily in the notion of the un-insured not having access to "Health Insurance," neither do we see the term 'Insurance' in the title as well. Is the title of the 'Act' deceptive in any way because of those glaring omissions? Yes

Who is the Patient? And what is the 'Patient' in need of 'Protection' from? We need to ask these kinds of questions because the title of the 'Act' is a very general one, and in this case the word 'Patient' is being used euphemistically to mean 'Person; not just any person, but a certain class of person(s) often referred to as poor, indigent, black, Hispanic, under-privileged, victim, woman/women, victim of discrimination, and the list is long. Notice again the absence of the all important term "Health."

'Patient Protection' really means there is a very large class of liberal progressives in society who need "Protection" from the likes of us, i.e., the white (usually) middle class who they hold in utter contempt.

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posted on Oct, 15 2013 @ 09:09 AM
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YodHeVauHe

kimar
I have one request. Can somebody name a single policy promoted by Obama as President that can be truly labeled Marxist? Just one.


The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

The main problem is with the implementation and the manner of its socialist agenda as a an intrusion into our fundamental expectations of privacy - on all levels - by the one's whose responsibility it is to police the law. The invasiveness is across the board and is extreme; reminiscent of Stalinism and/or the operations of a Stasi state in all of it pernicious forms.
edit on 15-10-2013 by YodHeVauHe because: (no reason given)


The Patient Protectin and Affordable Care Act is a copy of the Republican free market answer to Clintons attempts to get the US closer to universal health care like the rest of the modern world. And if Obama is a Marxist either he is the worst Marxist ever or somebody changed the meaning of the word. The fact is in most of the world Obama is considered right of center.



posted on Oct, 15 2013 @ 09:18 AM
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My perceptions are formed by virtue of my immediate surroundings, i.e., America - not Europe. Americans - by and large - could care less about what Europe thinks or does. We aren't speaking about the rest of the world here. We are speaking about our own nation and the manner in which its Marxist/Communist president distorts and devalues the Constitution and the Bill of Rights (which Europeans lack btw) and the deleterious effect that it has on us as a whole.

The "Act" is actually an agglomeration of much more that that which you described. If you are going to resort to such references to other administrations from the past then please do the full research so that we here are fully informed - not piece-meal OK?
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posted on Oct, 15 2013 @ 09:58 AM
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I too must appologize for not agreeing, as i fail to see what communism has to do with a tool of the banking elite......
The obvious aim of government in the USA has been to bring America to its knees financially and morally.....
Obama/Soetoro or whoever he is, was constructed for the very purpose that he is serving today.....
That he seems to be succeeding at the moment aside,
can you actually define what his communistic policies are, and where tyhey may be leading?
Hes had several years to set up the regime, by now there should be concrete evidence........not innuendo.
I dont like the man or his politics, but hes just a pawn of big money......nothing more....



posted on Oct, 15 2013 @ 10:20 AM
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YodHeVauHe
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My perceptions are formed by virtue of my immediate surroundings, i.e., America - not Europe. Americans - by and large - could care less about what Europe thinks or does. We aren't speaking about the rest of the world here. We are speaking about our own nation and the manner in which its Marxist/Communist president distorts and devalues the Constitution and the Bill of Rights (which Europeans lack btw) and the deleterious effect that it has on us as a whole.

The "Act" is actually an agglomeration of much more that that which you described. If you are going to resort to such references to other administrations from the past then please do the full research so that we here are fully informed - not piece-meal OK?
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This is the problem, you're using the word Marxist/Socialist after completely removing the original meaning and context. To anyone outside the US the claims are laughable as there's nothing remotely Socialist or Marxist about the Democrats or Obama.

Marxism is based on a classless, demonetarised, collective society. America is based on an capitalist defined class system and radical inividualism. They're complete opposite ends of the political spectrum.

Also all of Europe has the Human Rights Act which is equivalent of the Bill of Rights. Plus this side of the pond we have universal rights until the law stipulates otherwise, whereas in the US rights are only granted under law.
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posted on Oct, 15 2013 @ 03:17 PM
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I think you need to brush up on your definition of Marxism. In no way, shape, or form is the Affordable Care Act Marxist. It involves giving hundreds of billions of dollars to the private insurance industry. Don't forget it is a plan based on Mitt Romney's health care system and incorporates ideas promoted by the Republicans to combat the Clinton plan in the early 1990s.

This world would be a much better place if people did research before throwing boogeyman labels at things that they don't like.

Up here in Canada we have a health care system that can be called socialist. I love it. The vast majority of us love it. In fact, just a few years ago we named the founder of our heath care system, Tommy Douglas, the Greatest Canadian who ever lived.



posted on Oct, 15 2013 @ 03:48 PM
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MrSpad

YodHeVauHe

kimar
I have one request. Can somebody name a single policy promoted by Obama as President that can be truly labeled Marxist? Just one.


The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

The main problem is with the implementation and the manner of its socialist agenda as a an intrusion into our fundamental expectations of privacy - on all levels - by the one's whose responsibility it is to police the law. The invasiveness is across the board and is extreme; reminiscent of Stalinism and/or the operations of a Stasi state in all of it pernicious forms.
edit on 15-10-2013 by YodHeVauHe because: (no reason given)


The Patient Protectin and Affordable Care Act is a copy of the Republican free market answer to Clintons attempts to get the US closer to universal health care like the rest of the modern world. And if Obama is a Marxist either he is the worst Marxist ever or somebody changed the meaning of the word. The fact is in most of the world Obama is considered right of center.


You tell them steve dave!
"What just cuz a guy reads some comics means he can't start some s###"

May the wings of liberty never lose a feather



posted on Oct, 15 2013 @ 04:43 PM
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bastion
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How so? I'm in the UK and he's considered to the right of our most right wing mainstream parties by all political commentators, he doesn't have any Marxist policies at all.

I tried watching the vid but it was painfully tenuous links that never led anywhere and the quoted text proves he's in no way Socialist/Marxist due to failures in equality and increasing concentrations of wealth.


That is because in the UK liberals are called "Right" and conservatives are called "Left" and it's the opposite in America. Are you sure you are disagreeing with the OP or just arguing cause you know the truth and want to act like you don't?



posted on Oct, 15 2013 @ 04:46 PM
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buster2010


People are still buying the Saul Alinsky BS? Yes nothing pisses off the Republicans more than a person who fights for civil rights.


Yes, and that is why it was the Republicans who pushed for civil rights and the Democrats who resisted them in the 60's. Please, you spew such propaganda with each post. We actually know the history of the 1960's civil rights and it was the Democrat created KKK who was used to create such fear, but from created media campaigns you all have the ignorant masses thinking it was the Republicans.

There is a reason Lincoln and Martin Luther King Jr. were Republicans.

Nothing like the light of truth to stop liberal lies.



posted on Oct, 15 2013 @ 04:49 PM
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My head always hurts after I read threads like this. It is so hard to find people that actually understand what Marxism, socialism and all them bad words mean and how it is applied.

Hell, there are people out there that actually think Hitler was a Communist!


Apparently you can read all you want...it's comprehension that's the problem.


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posted on Oct, 15 2013 @ 05:18 PM
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sheepslayer247
My head always hurts after I read threads like this. It is so hard to find people that actually understand what Marxism, socialism and all them bad words mean and how it is applied.

Hell, there are people out there that actually think Hitler was a Communist!


Apparently you can read all you want...it's comprehension that's the problem.


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That may be true, but they also think Hitler was a conservative as in Republican sorts, when NAZI means "Nationals Socialist Party" while Russia, a communist nation believed in World socialism / communism, Hitler believed in national socialism and they are pretty much the same.

On a scale of capitalism to Russian / Chinese socialism, Hitler's socialism was just a couple spaces to the left of Russia and American's capitalism was completely on the opposite far left of Russia.

Yes, by all means Change equals Forward:










It is true, those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it! Sleep on ...



posted on Oct, 15 2013 @ 06:03 PM
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See, the problem lies with how the Nazi's used the term socialist. Dont think of it as the term is used today....think of it as "national patriotism" instead. It actually explains a lot when looking at their ideology and actions.

He was a fascist, not a socialist. He used the term socialist very loosely in its application and lets not forget that Hitler hated communists. The Reich had a firm union with the corporate entity, such as our modern America has a firm relationship with the corporations. We are fascist....not socialist/communist.

Obamacare is not socialism, its fascism. You are now required to buy a service from a corporation.

Also, the T4 program was a euthenasia program that killed tens of thousands. Obamcare is not killing the old and weak, he just wants to force a corporate service down your throat.







 
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