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How will 33% Americans eat & fuel cars when assistance eventually shuts down?

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posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 01:55 AM
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It's part of the socialist takeover, make you dependant on the government for everything



posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 08:28 AM
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Well, all I have to say is..... Enjoy the show. For those on benefits as a generational abuse of the system? Enjoy the show...it won't last much longer. For those taking benefits because hard times leave no other choice and pride needed put aside for survival? Enjoy the show...harder times are coming.

For those benefit haters who feel good when they've made others feel bad? Enjoy the show. When the benefits stop, the fighting starts and those of us with anything, better have dry powder and clean bores because keeping what we have will come down to the ability to defend it if millions are not just "Hungry" in the almost uniquely American sense of that word ...but TRULY Hungry in the REAL meaning of it.

I saw hunger around my turn of age into adulthood. I saw life on the street in a major American city for the better part of a year. It's hell and the people living at that level...who will react first and most directly to a lack of anything to sustain basic needs...don't write letters to congressman or have protests. Rule of the gun supplants the Golden Rule before anyone can say "What happened?!", IMHO.



posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 09:35 AM
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Ignorance is bliss. You want to blame the current president for this mess. He's the one that inherited it from the prior jack ass. I'm from Michigan I watched entire industrial complexes disappear over night in the early to mid 2000's. I watched friends family and co workers all loose their jobs. I witnessed hundreds of business's go under and it all happened under Bush. Not to mention the bottom falling out of the stock market before he left office. My grandparents lost a couple hundred thousand in that mess.

Obama's welfare nation was created by Bush.
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posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 09:45 AM
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So that I understand you fully, what you are saying is: Bush is to blame for the policies of Clinton, Obama and himself, while Obama is responsible for nothing. Unless it's something good, then it was 100% Obama


NAFTA destroyed everything (Detroit and Flint were stumbling but NAFTA cut the legs out from under them). That was Clinton.

I know we blame Bush for everything that has happened under Obama. As if Obama is so incompetent that he has done nothing at all for five years. I didn't realize we were blaming Bush for what happened BEFORE he took office as well.

Did Bush cause the race riots in '68? That was a major turning point for Detroit. The "big three" started outsourcing because their plants were not safe.

Did Bush elect five democrat mayors in Detroit and allow them to rob the people blind?

Did Bush backtrack on Clinton's '96 welfare reform (workfare program)? Allowing the number of people on assistance to double?

Where do we draw the line on what Bush is responsible for? Smallpox? The flood?

When is Obama going to shoulder the burden of presidency? Never is my guess. There will always be someone to point his finger at.............



posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 10:09 AM
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EBT= Electronic Benefits Transfer. this can be Food Stamps or cash assistance or both.
do we understand now?



posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 10:09 AM
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very meaningful dbl post


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posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 10:17 AM
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Thomas Jefferson- A government big enough to give you everything you want,,,, is big enough to take everything you have" Of that 33% I would say about a high 15% really need the EBT card. If they still had the social stigma of pulling out the OLD FOOD STAMP COUPONS and handing them to the cashier, we would'nt have 33% of food stamps. Or if they still gave them FOOD STUFF's such as peanut butter, cheese, dried potatoes, canned meat, etc,etc, That 33% would be no where near 33%. They took the social stigma of the food stamp program out of the equasion with the debit card.

Now, everybody and their brother has a n EBT card, Ever watch some one pay for a two cart grocery trip with EBT card, then pull out a wad of cash to pay for the wine, liquor, etc.etc.? Well I have, and that very reason is why I can no longer enter a Food LIon store in the Southeast. I sort of lost it and went a little postal. The 2/3rds of us left will be just fine, we prepared for this day. Why? Because of the quote that starts this post.
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posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 10:26 AM
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elysiumfire
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After putting all those people on the "free money" train...


Hang on, hang on! So, you're in the unenviable position of being out of work, you can't pay your mortgage or rent fully, you can't adequately feed and clothe you're family, and your only source of income is the EBT, so those not in the same bad situation as you confer the title of parasite upon you.

What are you going to do if you're only source of income is taken from you? Do you allow your family to go hungry and remain peaceful and law abiding. Do you sit placidly and inert while the bellies of your children rumble?

Of course, those whom are working and not in your situation will expect you to remain law abiding and unprotesting and grateful for the pittance you receive. You love being out of work and constantly at struggle, and no matter how bad you're situation gets, you must remain peaceful and law abiding and grateful. Rubbish!

You take away the means to feed themselves and people will not remain peaceful. Welfare is a safety valve for society. Yes, a small percentage claiming welfare do abuse the system, it happens in every country that has welfare. The majority on welfare do not abuse the system, but those whom are not on welfare prefer to believe the myth that everyone on welfare is a parasite on society.

What would you rather have...social breakdown or a welfare system that staves that off? Becareful what you wish for, you just might get it!


No, welfare creates dependency and keeps people from thinking independently and so when the handouts stop, all they know is to riot and fight for the handouts to begin again. The welfare state and the mentality it creates, created this powder keg, not reduced it.



posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 10:57 AM
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The crew of a huge cruise ship, intentionally rams into an iceberg and sinks the ship. you find yourself lucky enough to be on one of the lifeboats. A 3rd of your FELLOW passengers are trying to get out of the water, most are begging and pleading to get on one of the lifeboats.

A few of them give up trying to find something to float on, and accept their fate. Others try to get on your boat, but they are bashed on the head by oar wielding passengers who view them as the enemy. Some people are making room on their boats and helping people on board. Some people find floating suitcases to hold on to. And one or two are trying to capsize your boat in utter desperation.

What we are going through is not much different. Consider yourself fortunate to be on one of the lifeboats if you still have a job. But don't lower yourself by criticizing those who find themselves treading in the cold water. Show some compassion to your fellow passengers and realize they're just trying to survive like you.

Don't believe the hype which is telling you that the majority of the unlucky ones are criminals and leeches. They are a SMALL percentage of the whole.



posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 11:31 AM
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There is no shortage of fraud and corruption in the welfare system, some need it and some do not, but it is a broken system when, among other things, Illegal "undocumented" immigrants are enrolled in mass, and do not BS me, I have seen it many times myself. This basically boils down to the producers and non producers, taxpayers and tax based recievers. The 33% will do ok looting and taking in the cities, but when they seek out in the outskirts, they will not last long, play the numbers anyway you will, But many people out in the sticks are more than just prepared. This has been brewing for some time, kicked it turbo with this administration, There are those that are watching the signs and they are not playing x-box...



posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 11:42 AM
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Really bad analogy, completly out of line on the subject. I, along with a couple of friends, that work retail see this abuse everyday, all day long, and if you would just look, you would see it also. It needs an overhaul, some need it, some abuse it... but you would be floored to see the actual numbers...



posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 11:52 AM
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that youtuber is an idiot

What if you are broke and on an EBT card, chances are you don't have the newest of cars. So, you possibly need some new brake pads, etc..

Or you are walking and extremely thirsty, and walk into one for a bag of peanuts, chips, a drink, etc..

AutoZone does sell. Food.

I am in a veterans group at the VA for PTSD. Some of the veterans are HOMELESS.. living in a car of lucky, and these guys SHOULD be able to use the EBT cash for a car part.

Why does everyone hate on anyone down and out.

Doesn't sound like an American Descent Narrator in the video either. Was HIS parents born in the USA?



posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 12:14 PM
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teslahowitzer
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Really bad analogy, completly out of line on the subject. I, along with a couple of friends, that work retail see this abuse everyday, all day long, and if you would just look, you would see it also. It needs an overhaul, some need it, some abuse it... but you would be floored to see the actual numbers...


It's not a bad analogy at all. Like I said, the majority of people in this country (meaning the tens of millions who lost their jobs as a result of the economical collapse NOT the ones who were already poor, on welfare and abusing the system) are just trying to survive. I don't care one bit if you and a "couple of your friends" see it all the time, there are about 150 million working age adults in this Country. Even if you saw 500 people (which I highly doubt) abusing the system, that's a poor sampling of society. And these "actual numbers" you're referring to.........are they coming from the same source who report the "actual numbers" of unemployed people in this Country? Or are you sipping the same old 'poor people are leeches' media kool-aid again?

I think YOU would be shocked at the "actual numbers" of people who are just like you, who are trying to survive and do the right thing. If you're painting our entire society based on what you and a "couple of your friends" see in your neck of the woods, then you must have a piss poor view of our society. Me, "a couple of my friends" and millions of other people have seen otherwise. It's my opinion and I couldn't care less if you don't agree with it.

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posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 01:49 PM
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Same here buddy........ I am looking for 2 basically qualified maintenance people. Just basic knowledge of general maintenance, good pay, free lunch, and 40 hours per week. Been on the local outlets, internet and several other sources. The ONLY people whom applied are very limited speaking immigrants, with little knowledge of the job. All of the local like establishments say the same thing, NOBODY that applies is american, nobody. So my question is.....where are these job seekers whom were effected by the market? they are not applying for approx 20 open positions in my market area, 2 at my location. It gets better, We have a group of vendors that do various things for our facility, and I hear the same thing from them, the same exact thing. Of the many replies you can utilize, different region, market etc. One constant remains, there are jobs available for those whom seek them, I have took a pay cut too in this grand economy, But I must work until my last day on earth, some will not work for less than a certain ammount, others may, but where are all of the american applicants? and why are they avoiding this area?



posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 01:50 PM
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NavyDoc:

No, welfare creates dependency and keeps people from thinking independently...


There's always one in a crowd...a selfish contrarian who doesn't give a damn for the struggles of others. In the general sense, because you don't qualify or clarify your statement, you are quite wrong. The welfare system is indeed a social safety valve. There are hundreds of thousands of people who do depend on welfare in order to shelter and feed themselves. While they are receiving it they are not kicking in the doors of those whom are not struggling. You either feed these people or they will come and take the food out of your mouth.

You can be as selfish and insular and as indifferent to their plight all you want. You can consider them parasites and pariahs, but the perception works both ways. If you are going to denounce and act all Marie Antoinette, then you just might end up suffering the same fate as her.

The louder you crow 'I'm al'right Jack, to hell with you!', the more of a target you make of yourself. The only reason why our species has lasted as long as it has is because we helped each other through the hardships of living. The day we stop doing that we will turn on each other. You need to recognize this and accept it as the safety valve it is. The last thing we want to see is our species turning all animalistic upon itself, and it will if your attitude becomes the viral thought.



posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 01:53 PM
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They will continue to sponge from us hardworking and tax-paying 67%.



posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 01:58 PM
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I can fish and my boat has sails, I will be just fine if the SHTF. The trade and barter system will prevail. Those who are 100% dependent on welfare will probably just end up robbing and killing each other until the processed food supply runs out.



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