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posted on Oct, 13 2013 @ 10:28 PM
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Onslaught2996
America Needs a White Republican President




Wanting a white Republican president doesn’t make you racist, it just makes you American.


Finally at least one republican shows his true colors. This is what we knew all along and are just tired of the right lying about their true intentions.
but obama is mixed race ??
white mommy or do people forget .

we have a loaf [bread] like that in the u.k its called the best of both worlds



posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 12:01 AM
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The President America needs does not exist.



posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 12:02 AM
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???

Who's "Joe The Plumber".

Where does he tend bar ?



posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 12:16 AM
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I thought it was a new Wii game or some such.



posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 12:21 AM
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I don't want a white republican president. I don't want a president, PERIOD. All I want is a realtively intelligent person to go and run a small corporations that has all the intructions ALREADY WRITTEN DOWN, (The Constitution) SO THERE'S NO MISTAKES!. The office of president is NOT what it's supposed to be. Hasn't been for a long, long, long time. Obama doesn't suck at being a president because of his skin color, he sucks at it because he's a COMMIE and most of the rest of us are not, get it? He's doesn't get his ass handed to him by Putin every day becasue of his skin color, that happens because he is niaeve. He doesn't come up with atrocities like obamascare because he's stupid, he does it beacause his advisors are STUPID, and he weak.

Yeah, we don't need a president, or like the office has evolved to become, a king. We need someone who can lead, organize and when necessary, obliterate our enemies, with no mercy, to ensure the security of US citizens at all cost.

I don't need a president. Just need some guy or girl that can do a job that ALREADY COMES WITH INSTRUCTIONS!



posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 12:30 AM
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Hmmm being relatively naive there, and also doing a good solo call & response. Kudos




Yeah, we don't need a president, or like the office has evolved to become, a king. We need someone who can lead, organize and when necessary, obliterate our enemies, with no mercy, to ensure the security of US citizens at all cost. I don't need a president. Just need some guy or girl that can do a job that ALREADY COMES WITH INSTRUCTIONS!


So, like a king, or a president ?
Maybe a tsar, or perhaps a pharoah ?
How about boss or guv ?
Maybe a witchdoctor (thats more a VP thing though) ?
Big shoe specialist ?

You basically decried the need for a leader, then cried for a leader, I think you are confuzzled.



posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 01:38 AM
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I believe that if people work together, they can achieve great things. We've seen many examples of this in the past.

I don't see the colour of your presidents skin as an issue. To be honest, i don't see his competence as that much of an issue either. The problem i see here, and have seen with too many of your presidents in the past, is trust. People no longer believe that their leaders are working for their benefit and i think they have a point. Obama has done too many things to try to take away the rights of the people of the US, just as his predesessor did.

In short, America needs an honest man. It needs transparency in it's president. Maybe then, people will learn to trust in him, believe in him, and America can then go on to achieve great things.



posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 10:38 AM
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Q33323
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Was it racist for black people to say: "We need a black president?"


That is not what black people said.

This is a question based on a false premise/assumption.

There have been SEVERAL DOZEN African Americans that have ran for President and failed...Jesse Jackson, Carol Mosley Braun, Herman Cain, Alan Keyes...just a few of the recent examples.

What the AMERICAN PEOPLE (not black people) said was that race should not be an impediment to being elected.

That said, I understand the tactic of fallacy and intellectual dishonesty whilst defending racism, otherwise it is indefensible.
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posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 10:46 AM
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Onslaught2996
America Needs a White Republican President




Wanting a white Republican president doesn’t make you racist, it just makes you American.


Finally at least one republican shows his true colors. This is what we knew all along and are just tired of the right lying about their true intentions.



Even though Joe didn't say that, by your logic, if I can source 1 progressive, liberal pediphile, does that mean all of you guys are?

ew.



posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 12:20 PM
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Racism is not dependent on political party, but political party is dependent on racism.

This is because racism persists as a cultural phenomena in significant pockets of the south.

Prior to the Civil Rights Movement in the 50's and 60's the Democrats fanned the flames of racism in the south for political advantage.

Post Civil Rights the south went GOP and the North turned Democrat...and then the GOP fanned the flames of racism in the south.

What we have now is a GOP that occasionally appeals to the racism amongst their base, sometimes without subtlety, most times in scantily veiled rhetoric...but they do in fact appeal to racism.

That said if the Democratic party relied on the southern states for political power, I have no doubt they would be doing the same.

I'd also concede that the racism that is exploited in the southern states now, is much smaller than it was 50 years ago. There are no more Strom Thurmand's ...""I wanna tell you, ladies and gentlemen, that there's not enough troops in the army to force the southern people to break down segregation and admit the n*&&*% race into our theatres into our swimming pools into our homes and into our churches."

BTW Strom was a Democrat up until 1964...and went Republican post civil rights, 1964...and remained Republican the rest of his life, served in the Senate up until 2003!

A good archetype for examining the history of racism and politics.

But yes racism persists and yes it is disproportionately greater in the south, albeit to a smaller extent than the past and yes whatever political party relies on the south will exploit that fact and yes the GOP rely on the southern states...denying reality doesn't help the discussion any.

As far as Joe the Plumber (A) He didn't write the piece (B) He did like it enough to post to his website (C) The guy who wrote it is black...BFD...who cares...Saying stupid stuff is not race specific.



posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 12:24 PM
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Personally? In my life?

I've been a target of more racism by so-called liberals than by any other ideology.

So your data is all nice and well, but in real life, it doesn't amount to the page it was written on.



posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 12:49 PM
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beezzer
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Personally? In my life?

I've been a target of more racism by so-called liberals than by any other ideology.

So your data is all nice and well, but in real life, it doesn't amount to the page it was written on.


You mean in your personal perspective? No offense Beez, but I see this so often as a pillar of modern day right wing ideology...the idea that your opinion, your view...supersedes all other opinions, history, facts or reality. The ability to think objectively or see beyond your own opinion and experience should not be sacrificed as the price of admission to the Right Wing. Alas...it didn't used to be that way.


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posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 01:46 PM
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Indigo5

beezzer
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Personally? In my life?

I've been a target of more racism by so-called liberals than by any other ideology.

So your data is all nice and well, but in real life, it doesn't amount to the page it was written on.


You mean in your personal perspective? No offense Beez, but I see this so often as a pillar of modern day right wing ideology...the idea that your opinion, your view...supersedes all other opinions, history, facts or reality. The ability to think objectively or see beyond your own opinion and experience should not be sacrificed as the price of admission to the Right Wing. Alas...it didn't used to be that way.


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You funny.

Only a progressive would find fault in someone claiming first hand experience in liberal racism.



posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 02:05 PM
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beezzer

You funny.

Only a progressive would find fault in someone claiming first hand experience in liberal racism.


And only a right-winger would declare their view as reality at large?

I never took issue with your claimed experience, I took issue with the idea that somehow refutes the experience of the other 300 million Americans in this country.

Statistics, history and facts all consistently show a different picture at large concerning racism than your singular, personal claimed experience.

Again...there is a refusal to cognate the difference between personal opinion, views, experience and the objective state of the world and it's people. This stubborn disconnect drove the right wing to outright attack statistics and pollsters last election ...people simply doing math and asking questions...and it appears to remain a "bubble-mandate" amongst committed right-wingers. Partisanship aside, I think the attitude damages the GOP daily.



posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 02:09 PM
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posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 02:12 PM
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CBS News/New York Times poll found the Tea Party movement is 89 percent white and just one percent black.


It also looked at the views of Tea Party supporters on race issues.

Asked if too much has been made of the problems facing African-Americans, 52 percent said yes.
That compares to 28 percent of Americans overall who say too much has been made of the problems facing blacks, and 23 percent of non-Tea Party whites who say as much.


Sixteen percent of Tea Party supporters say whites have more opportunities to get ahead, compared to 31 percent of all Americans who believe whites have more opportunities to get ahead.


Seventy-three percent of Tea Party supporters say both races have equal opportunity, compared to 60 percent of Americans overall.


A majority of Tea Party suppers believe the Obama administration treats both blacks and whites the same way.
But one in four believe the administration favors blacks over whites, an opinion shared by just 11 percent of Americans overall and seven percent of non-Tea Party whites.

www.cbsnews.com...



posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 02:14 PM
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posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 02:31 PM
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posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 02:40 PM
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posted on Oct, 14 2013 @ 03:32 PM
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Q33323
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Was it racist for black people to say: "We need a black president?"


No, because to the racist left, racism only goes one way.



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