Thanks for the notice. I will try to keep this thread on topic. These threads have a way of degenerating down to the lowest common denominator so to
The problem historically with Eastern Religons, dogmas, and practices is the history and what history records.
By this I mean economic history.
For there is no other prime indicator or cause of economic prosperity of a people or nation outside of their religion. Religion is the prime
determiner of what kind of economic system will take place.
By this I mean the ability of a people to freely practice their religion and the ability of that religion to keep their government in check and
When you see the recorded history of men...you can break down their economies and economic systems down into the ability of government to extract the
production of the people in favor of government or in favor of the people who earn and produce the substance.
Many ways, dogmas , and religions have been devised to cause this and they are recorded in history.
Only in a handful of nations have people ever had enough liberty to successfully raise themselves above the feudal or subsistance level of economics
and reap the fruits of their labors.
You will not find this system in operation in Eastern Nations where the economies did not flourish sufficient to raise the standard of living above
subsistance levels. If you do find it happening it was imported from the west. It did not originate in these nations.
Ironically, This is the very thought process/history avoided by most of public education today..in lieu of the dogma/religion/ and history from the
East..that all religions are the same religion and all gods are the same god. That they can be swapped out...and the thinking to follow will bear more
and better fruit.
It is not so.
What I notice and find ironic is that so many who are want to speak against Christianity tend towards speaking of history of the Church as being
represented by the Roman Catholic Church.
I do not agree with this for one simple reason. History. Once you know the history and have it explained to you ...you can look at the history books
and magazine articles and see them sneaking in Eastern Belief systems of confusion and attempting to overlay this on top of Christianity as if it was
Christian. It is no such thing..it is Phariseeism.
For history records that there was almost no progress under the Roman Catholic Church. People lived mostly at a subsistance level or lower.
A few lived well off the labor of others. The priesthood, royalty and those educated or merchant class. But the Kings and Priesthood had the ability
to extract from people unlimited.
This in history is called "Divine Right of Kings."
"Divine Right of Kings" Backed by a priesthood and the Popes is what kept most of Europe in Darkness and at a subsistance level or lower. No progress
It was not until certain groups broke away from the RCC that withing 200 years historians began to notice a difference in the standard of living in
the Catholic and Non Catholic areas of Europe. This meant Northern Germany, the lowland nations, and England. These were not Catholic areas.
It is these areas where progress began to be noticed...economic progress where the individual could keep more of their production for themselves and
their discretionary spending. Historically when people can keep more of what they produce..production goes up rapidly. This is the secret most public
educators financed by government today...do not want people to know..or even think.
Progress was also impossible under socialism/Marxism. For in these nations also the production of a people was ceded to the state..or as DFW Hegel was
to say..."The State is God."
It just so happens that in the Communist nations belief in the God of the Bible and what was taught there was very very suppressed. It still is today.
This is why these nations are often described as Atheist nations.
The irony here is in the knowledge that the economic fruit produced in the Communist nations is identical to the economic fruit produced in the
Catholic nations..once you know the pattern.
Theos, God....without God
From the Greek language etymology.
I keep tending towards thinking and language and here in this country today movies and television are here to Amuse us with Amusement instead of
reading and thinking about the nature of things.
For those who do not understand what is right in front of them...here from etymology again..
Muse-thinking, pondering, or another way..contemplating.
Amuse/Amusement...something fed to us to prevent thinking.
And this often takes the form of cultivating our emotions rather than disciplined thinking.
Emotions are not the same thing as thinking. You can tell in many of these posts as things become heated.
Know the history and also the language when debating these types of posts.
When you do not know these things sufficient not to be able to follow the pattern ..even the pattern in the history...you can easily be bamboozled
into buying into the religions of the East.
But the economies of the East show historically a very different fruit.
By substituting the religions of the East..for Western history and religious beliefs..someone is trying to bring us back to feudalism..back to Divine
Right of Kings..back to royalty...back to stagnant inert economies...back to the East.
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