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Sandoval: Nevada faces catastrophe if government shutdown persists

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posted on Oct, 8 2013 @ 06:13 PM
Well, this got my attention. Las Vegas and Reno are not....nice cities (Crime wise or employment/income wise). Oh, the Vegas strip is pretty. Very pretty in fact. Best seen at night, and never the first time in daylight ..but I digress.

Reno is also nice downtown where their Casinos are. Away from that and before hitting the afluent suburbs? It can be rough. That's from being in both cities frequently enough over the years to see it.

Now, add this to it and note what I highlighted....... THIS definitely changes the stakes here if it's in play across other states as well....

Most state agencies are able to continue federal programs until the end of the month, Sandoval was told in a mini-cabinet meeting today. But the cash-strapped state is already beginning to rack up a significant bill keeping essential programs running without the guarantee of the federal government reimbursing the costs.

No highlighting yet...but context is necessary...

“Time is short. We have hundreds of thousands of Nevadans facing real consequences. The first of the month is right around the corner.”

Most immediately, 362,000 food stamp recipients will see their benefits halt on Nov. 1 and the 500 state employees who administer that program will face potential furloughs if the shutdown is not resolved. About 425,000 women, infants and children would also stop seeing food benefits.

Those who have been wanting to see what food stamps being cut off would do? Well.... We have folks saying it'll be very bad and lead to violence in adding hunger to existing desperation. I'm among those.

Others think it'll be a good thing in motivating people to work (we'll leave alone unemployment in Vegas and Reno...altho, Reno was DOWN to 9.1% last month! lol). Some figure those on them will find other ways and make do.

If this goes on through the timeline Nevada is talking about, I wouldn't want to be IN Vegas or Reno to experience which side is proven right ...but we may just have the chance to see it.

posted on Oct, 8 2013 @ 06:21 PM
If this pans out as you and the article have stated, it's a fair assumption to say that it'd be very bad for a number of people. I don't really have anything other to add other than that this seems to me like a precursor to the great American collapse. It has to start, if not already (which is highly plausible) somewhere.

Crazy times.

posted on Oct, 8 2013 @ 06:39 PM
Very sad to see, while those fat cats in DC argue, the people suffer. Do they care? Do they even notice? Definitely not! And imagine, this is just one state! I wonder how many people it will become if say California, or Texas or any other state did what Nevada is. Good job American government! Very responsible of you! /sarcasm

Crime is going to soar if this int resolved. And not for money and the riches in Vegas, but rather just for food and water. I wonder if the state government should tax Casinos higher than they do, just to ensure that they can cover the costs of these programs and not rely on Washington. It's not like they don't make millions every night :p


posted on Oct, 8 2013 @ 06:55 PM
This is a very scary thought. Just imagine what Chicago, or Detroit will be like???? Man, I just hope that the govt can do their damn jobs.

Yeah, the govt is shut down, our men and women the armed services over seas can go to the commissary and get food, but the ones states side can not.....what a crock....

the govt is still shut down, but we can still catch terrorists.........

And talk of the debt ceiling, and no compromise, wouldn't our govt be, to the definition Bush JR. gave the US in a national address, terrorists???

What a world we live in.

Sorry for the off topic rant Wrabbit, but it fit.......

posted on Oct, 8 2013 @ 07:26 PM
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

I have said before that this is a dog and pony show and it is. But it is a show with some severe consequences. Start to starve adults and they will seek a way out, mostly peacefully. Starve their children and watch the moms and dads react with a great deal of anger! It could get real angry.

Once it starts it starts! It is coming and it will come to the whole country!

It is time for the sheriffs to start deputizing citizens en mass!

Perhaps US citizens need to dust off the old documents that talk of the blood of the patriots. In all of that type of literature I have never once seen any of the founding fathers mention trials and such like. They saw it happening way back then! They warned you all and they left a set of instructions for you!

It will not be long now!


posted on Oct, 8 2013 @ 07:26 PM
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

They've already got people homeless, poor, downtrodden, scared. Now let's make them hungry so we can have an insurrection!
I would do anything to make sure my family was safe. I don't think I am different then the rest of society. That makes for a very scary scenario if things are left to progress as they have been.

posted on Oct, 8 2013 @ 07:40 PM
I would add to this all that the 17th is no small thing and I still have major doubts that this isn't solved by the evening of it, at the latest. If that day does somehow pass without resolution though? Well... I don't know when the next deadline of note actually is ..and they seem to need artificial deadlines to properly care about anything.

If...somehow...the 17th doesn't bring a deal? I think that given the national conditions already, we're in truly uncharted waters as a nation for what comes next.

posted on Oct, 8 2013 @ 07:43 PM
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

I have family that works for in food stamp processing in a different state. They have not indicated ever cutting off this program due to cost concerns. I think we all know the state of nevada is simply throwing the threat out there to scare people. Surely the state could acquire $50 million on loan until the debt situation is sorted out, which would most likely compensate for the costs. The State of Nevada doesn't even have an income tax. Certainly a 1% income tax levied, during federal government shutdowns could keep programs such as this operational. Nevada is just looking for its hand-out from the government, and unwilling to do what is necessary to keep the program running.

posted on Oct, 8 2013 @ 08:15 PM
reply to post by ExPostFacto

Nevada is also Harry Reid's home state, so you'd think this wouldn't be an issue to start with. Nevada is almost uniquely positioned of all 50 states in being clobbered flat by food stamp interruption by the Fed's side of the funding turning off. They are more service based, I.E....low wage based, in their economy for the support of the gaming and entertainment industry than pretty much anyone else.

Heck, they only have the two areas (and Carson/Virginia City to be technical) for population. Reno and Vegas...and both are places people come to get rich, lose everything and can't pay a bus ticket back out of as much as the service jobs play into it.

I'll just hope it doesn't run out past the 17th. Everything like this is moot if they don't default then.

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