Gulf States Introduce Medical Testing to Detect Gay People and Stop From Entering Country

reply to post by FreedomEntered


Yes, everywhere people do bad stuff to other people, but at least the west has a legal system in place that attempts to deal with sexual offenders and offer help to their victims, this is simply not the case in many if not all Islamic states.

Steal that tech NAAOUUUU!!

We can test all kinds of things now..If your a terrorist for example...

No more need to do bombruns on civis....oppss sorry
i mean hightech surgical strikes that only kill terrorists...

Wrabbit2000
The article mentioned 78 nations where it's outright illegal though with open persecution increasingly common on the street in places like Russia .

Yes. Russia is a real surprise. Considering it's more modern.
There are calls to boycott the Olympics in Russia due to their anti-gay laws.
People are afraid of being gay and going to Russia for the Olympics.
I don't blame them for being afraid.

reply to post by seabhac-rua


Yeah I think your right. But bullying has meant that many women still suffer in the west.

Although gay rights are improving. Violence towards women isn't however.

Legally stuff is in place. And that's positive.

Well in their culture its called modesty and women should have the right to dress how they want to. Be that with less on or with more.

Its not always forced, you have to meet muslim women to know sometimes they choose this.

who is starting the boycott?

FreedomEntered
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

 

The west isn't as free and open as you would like to think. Its full of bullying.

Although at least legally gays are protected from twits.

edit on 8-10-2013 by FreedomEntered because: (no reason given)

There is just no comparison, in my personal opinion, or moral relativism between bullying and name calling with occasional incidents of individuals taking it to homicide in the Western nations (People here kill for a $5 or pair of shoes too)...and the organized, lawful and open persecution as well as execution of gays in almost half the world's other nations.

To add some context and since some of the Gulf States do execute people for this, I watched the whole video I shared above. There is nothing especially graphic, and it's all still photos. Nothing live as some are online. No need to get extreme, but this one also gives some written commentary with stats, including which 7 nations executions are apparently conducted for this. Not all in the Middle East.

Yeah, there are some aspects of America, Britain, Australia and many other nations which are exceptional. This story/thread happens to show powerful contrast for one of them, IMO.

FreedomEntered
who is starting the boycott?

Which boycott? The Russian Olympics, the World Cup, or a boycott of the Gulf States?
I don't know of a Gulf States Boycott. If you want to start one ... that'd be awesome.

Dead for being genetically different.

The issue humans have is empathy - they lack it BIG TIME.

reply to post by FreedomEntered

I agree.
There are huge cultural differences though. Last week I had a Muslim taxi driver who emphatically tried to convince me that western women are disgusting, the cause of all our social strife, stupid, and that we western men have lost 'control' of the situation. Of course he drives late at night and sees a lot of drunkenness in his line of work, so I understood his points to a degree, he seemed genuinely concerned. I told him that men and women are equal in my world, he just shook his head. The discussion bothered me though, because I know quite a few women who are way smarter than me, why should I treat somebody as inferior because they're female? I know some (western)guys who would like to have it this way, they're usually the same types that openly dislike gay people too. Its all fear.

reply to post by seabhac-rua


Yeah but I feel the differences are due to lack of understanding.

I mean women and men should have the right to dress how they like and to practice what ever religion they wish to.

What really annoys is that they feel they have the right to tell others what to think and how to dress and behave. Islam has such little tolerance of other beliefs. And I am not sure why they are so afraid... I mean they wont lose their ways just because a minority of people are " different".

reply to post by FreedomEntered


I don't know.
I used to work with a Muslim guy, we became good friends, he was moderate in his beliefs, but I put that down to the fact that this was just because he was living in my country temporarily to study. One time I asked him how many different sects there are in Islam, he told me something like 72, each one denounces all the others and claims to be the one true faith etc. I then asked him "well, which one is right?" he smiled and said "my one, of course".
This is just an example of religion at work on the minds of its followers, regardless of which faith you choose, Christianity has many sects also. Most religions, not all, are methods of control, and fear is a powerful tool. Fear of gay people, fear of empowered women, fear of what happens when you die, fear of a wrathful deity and on and on.

reply to post by FlyersFan


When I read gulf states I was thinking it was an Onion story about states in the gulf of mexico.

It's just bizarre.

reply to post by FlyersFan


I wonder exactly how they're going to be testing this? Will they be showing them two color slides? And if the response to any of the color slides are "F.A.B.U.L.O.U.S.!" they'll get denied entry?

Stupidity knows no bounds!

reply to post by seabhac-rua


wow ,that's a lot of different sects.

There is fear of empowered women in the West too and children I think its a chauvinistic issue.
Lack of respect for human life.

I know empowered muslim women so I don't have the stereotype that they are all oppressed. On the contrary I see very self-willed and in control ones.

Auricom
I wonder exactly how they're going to be testing this?

I dunno .... have some manly-men at the airport gates showing the incoming fellas porn??? And if the fellas 'get happy' then they pass ... and if the fellas say 'I just luuuuv those bedsheets she's on, where can I get some? ' then they fail the gay test? (ha ha ha ... ) Kidding. I can't think of a 'gay medical test'.

reply to post by FlyersFan


I read there is mention of a boycott but I think its to do with the Olympics.

I suppose there are bound to be gays who are sports people as well.

SovereignEve
reply to post by IamAStrangeLoop

 

They aren't doing it for the benefits of testing for disease -- even then they should be testing ALL travelers and not just gay-specific, heterosexuals can get aids and other STD's just as easily. I support the protest against FIFA going there . . . It would be better off not risking innocent lives due to the sheer ignorance of one country.

~Sovereign

Obviously, since I already said they're doing it out of religious BS and not for health purposes, if you could read. I clearly said it was just a good effect healthwise, even though religious dogma was the cause of it all.

And you're completely wrong, a heterosexual can get AIDS but they are significantly less likely to contract it compared to the activities and company of homosexuals and their lifestyle. This is a proven fact. It's why nearly ALL HIV positive patients at my mother's infectious disease clinic are homosexuals. I have nothing against homosexuals at all, I am not a homophobe. I am simply observing the facts. It would be cost efficient and otherwise to focus on only testing the group of people that most likely have a deadly virus such as AIDS rather than trying to test every single person alive.

FlyersFan

IamAStrangeLoop
it is a good way to prevent the spread of AIDS and HIV and the dozens of other STD's that gay men spread more often.

An HIV test would be the way to stop the spread of HIV ... not a 'gay test'. And the country is going to test every single traveler?? That's insanely expensive and impractical.

The reason they think they are going to be doing 'gay testing' isn't because of disease.
It's because of religion. They think homosexuals are hell bound and evil.
Like I said, they can run their country any way they want.
But we also have the right to say ... how insane!

What is it today with women who can't read?

I CLEARLY said that it was for religious purposes and not health purposes in my post. You must be able to read since you typed out a reply, so I'm just going to assume that you can't comprehend the things you read.

Just because a gay person doesn't have HIV now, doesn't mean the chances of them contracting it soon are diminished. In fact, the odds are against them. Statistically, 1 in 100 gay men will contract HIV from a partner whose HIV status is "unknown" to them. That's not even counting the people who already have it, 1 in 100 who don't have it will get it from an unknown partner, and even more will get it from partners whose statuses are actually known!

Meanwhile in Western countries, Gays are destroying the fabric of straight civilisation here - NOT!

There is no way of telling, I know some really camp gentlemen with the stereotypical gay voice who are happily married and straight.

Then you get not camp, normal sounding guys (Michael Barrymore great example) who are totally 100% homosexual.

It's a silly proposition really.

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