Liberal New Republic suggests Obama use military against Tea Party

reply to post by Pinkorchid


I linked directly to the New Republic title. While the title I chose here was my own, it was directly related, as I have linked, to the New Republic title. I am not asking that ATS favor me over the OP, just highlighted that this has been discussed and posted in the same forum. If you would like, I could just alert and moan that I have a thread of my own on this? Which I haven't, because this needs to get to the widest audience possible.

You made me think of this.
Obama is doing it to show them as no use and stupid.

He will show that he does not need them.
and he will replace them.
Hail the new Dictatorship.

reply to post by Cuervo


To begin, let’s just go back to basic procedure under the Constitution. The Congress appropriates funds to run the government, and any tax measure must be initiated in the House. This is the power of the purse which the House of Representatives inherited from the British House of Commons. This power was fundamental to establishing parliamentary primacy over the monarchy, and consequently gave birth to modern representative government. The President is then charged with spending the funds as dictated by Congress. The government only shuts down if the President vetoes the congressional appropriation bills. It is this presidential veto which effectuates the government shutdown, not Congress. The President shuts down the government, not congress.

Now currently there is a complication in that the President may not have an appropriation bill to veto because the Democrat-controlled Senate may not act. However, in that case, the Democrats are still the ones responsible for the shutdown because the House has appropriated funds for the government to operate. The decision to close down the government now still lies with the Democrats, either in the Senate or the White House.

Technically the Constitution does allow the President to veto appropriation bills. However, by threatening in advance to veto the House’s appropriations bill because it does not fund everything he wants, President Obama is essentially trying to coerce the House into giving him more money. Again, it is presidential action which is threatening the crisis.

reply to post by MsAphrodite


Huh... I guess you learn something everyday. Thank you.

This doesn't mean I don't blame the GOP for this but I wasn't aware of the technicalities you threw down for me to pick up there. I feel schooled. But not wrong. Thanks again.

If I had a dollar for every time a wing nut mentioned
taking up Arms against Obama I'd be rich .

On ATS alone how many of you have mentioned this very scenario
in reverse?

So a blogger says it so now it's Obamas idea and its GONNA HAPPEN .
Gonna happen; Just like socialism,sharia law, gun confiscation, killing grandma,
and the good ol USofA becoming a Muslim country?
No hyperbole there?

This story has nothing to do with Obama, and I suspect
it was a tongue in cheek remark unlike the very real threats
crazy right wingers make against the President all the time.

How's gun sales and militia enrollment since this presidency?
Again hypocrite much?

reply to post by sealing


If I had a dollar for every obsessed political ideologist that fanatically supports a regime even when that regime tears down the foundation on which that regime was originally founded , I would offer it to all those who now suffer as a consequence of the blind adherence to political dogma. Don't want to make a profit out of peoples suffering now do we.