Father disowns daughter in epic letter when she kicks out her gay son

Xaphan

AthlonSavage
she did right thing.

Smells like trolls in here.

It reeked of bigotry to me -- along with a hint of malodorous religious dogma.

Ball, player. Player, ball.

You will notice that when a player is called for a foul it’s because he went after the opponent instead of the ball. Go after the ball, not the player.

Please focus on any points offered, not the members who offer them.

reply to post by tothetenthpower


And here all this time I thought love was unconditional................................hmmmmmmmmmmmm

The love and acceptance of the grandparents goes to prove that angels really do exist. Thank God there are kind hearted people out there that are prepared to rise to the occasion and offer love and humanity when others turn their back.

paxnatus
reply to post by tothetenthpower

 

So in your mind then two wrongs make a right. No matter how ya spin this there is no winner. The grandfather is a hypocrite. Isn't the rule, don't do as I say but do as I do? Well look dad, she did. Now we know where she gets it from.

Pax

edit on 10/5/2013 by paxnatus because: typo

Scrambling cause and effect is a poor way to execute logic.

His action was in response to hers, not the other way around. I am not sure how you managed to cobble that understanding together, to be honest. But I hope I have helped.

Good for her. The homosexual agenda is spreading like a cancer in this country. If we don't do something now, the whole country will rot and die from moral degradation!

Now Christian Voice, you never responded to my earlier post, so my curiosity still remains - you only wear single fabric clothing, yes?

Leviticus 19:19 “Neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.”

Now, not only should a man not lay with another man, one should not lay with one of another ethnic group. When the Israelites began to intermarry with the Moabites (God used the less friendly term 'commit whoredom', and he was so crazed with anger he commanded Moses to “hang them”. I hope that if you are married that your wife does not wear any form of jeans or trousers, as Deuteronomy 22:5 clearly informs us this is an abomination. In fact, your wife (or any woman for that matter) is only 3/5 the value of a man, so please inform her that this is the way of the Lord (and of course make sure she never speaks in Church as this is strictly verboten). Perhaps the best news of all (if you're so inclined), is despite the fact that a man cannot lay with a man, a man can lay with a woman in the way that a man would lay with a man if it was permitted (in case that's not clear enough, there is no prohibition on visiting the rear rooms of the house, and to visit the rear the back door must be used). So Christians rejoice, for what is forbidden to those nasty evil homosexuals is perfectly fine for a loving man and wife. In fact, it's highly possible that God permits this act before marriage (with a little nudge and a wink), as technically a woman retains her virginity :wow

I'm not so sure about the fella however)

As for oral sex some quotes, from the Song of Solomon

I sat down under his shadow with great delight, and his fruit was sweet to my taste. 2:3

Come ... blow upon my garden, that the spices thereof may flow out. Let my beloved come into his garden, and eat his pleasant fruits. 4:16

"I would cause thee to drink of spiced wine of the juice of my pomegranate." 8:2

Although not a sexual act between man and wife, God gets a bit weird and kinky and encourages the Israelites to eat poop.

"And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight. And the LORD said, Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles, whither I will drive them." (Ezekiel 4:12-13)

Finally, to show the awesome power of the anger of a hungry Jesus (obviously he wasn't feeling full of peace and love, neither turning the other cheek, nor performing his food multiplication wizardry - kind of the Uri Gellar of his time)

"Early in the morning, as he was on his way back to the city, he was hungry." "Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, 'May you never bear fruit again!' Immediately the tree withered." — Matthew 21:18-19

So what's the moral here?

I take it as being that some of God's rules are that you can have kinky sex (with a woman), eat poo, not have mixed race relations, and if Jesus gets angry because he's hungry, he is permitted to make fertile things barren. Oh yes, two consenting males or females who love each other are sinners and perform unnatural acts (which seem permitted to non-homosexuals) making me question what is the point of God's edict regarding homosexuals?)

reply to post by cuckooold


You are the sickest most vile piece of trash I've ever came across! You sir will pay dearly for your heresy!

Duskangels
reply to post by cuckooold

 

You are the sickest most vile piece of trash I've ever came across! You sir will pay dearly for your heresy!

It's all there, in the 'Good Book'

Christian Voice
reply to post by mOjOm

 

I will tackle this one. First we do not know the entire context of why the boy was kicked out. The grandfather may have a chip on his shoulder about the boy being gay. I'll explain, a guy I went to school was a friend on mine on Facebook. One day he was writing praises to his Lord Nobama and I voiced my opinion. It was about nothing even remotely having to do with homosexual topics but because I questioned him he said out publicly on my wall that I hated Nobama because he was pro homosexual. I was like dang dude, where did that come from ? He blocked me after that.
Anyways, she may have kicked him out based solely on his sexual preferences, but I somehow doubt it. They probably argued and she said he could not have his "boyfriend" in her home so the boy left home. It could have been totally unrelated to his sexuality and the grandfather spoke out of his butt.
Her son could have been 20 and a deadbeat and mama finally put her foot down. Mama's house, Mama's rules.

Kind of like you bringing up President Obama while at the same time dismantling his name and I'm sitting here "like dang dude where did that come from?" What a hypocrite... you should probably keep your comments to yourself. Bet you wish you could block me after my comment...

jam321
I wouldn't care if any of my children told me they were gay. I just want them to be at peace with themselves and enjoy this sometimes miserable life to the max. Here today gone tomorrow, why waste time fighting over trivial things?


Peace

edit on 3-10-2013 by jam321 because: oops

Thank you, you have rebuilt my faith in humanity and common sense for today. Seriously.

Logman

AthlonSavage
she did right thing.

See how many stars this post got. Just shows you that a lot of people that visit this site aren't the "wide awake, eyes open, truth seeking" citizen but right wing, redneck, bible thumping idiots with their own supressed homosexual tendencies.

Indeed, we have the hardcore truth seekers, UFOlogists and spritual freaks and then there's the, eh.. other group. And the last one is unfortunately growing. Quite a contrast, eh?

reply to post by Christian Voice

What does God have to do with 3rd world countries that are starving ? Last I checked most of those nations are heathanistic Godless nations. God does not live our lives for us. He gave us free will and the ability to choose for ourselves.

I knew that would be your reply. The "free will" argument. I get it every time, yet that's NOT an answer and it completely ignores the obvious.

So God created all of heaven and Earth but had nothing to do with those godless third-world countries and the innocent suffering children. Gotcha. And those innocent children used their free will to choose the situation they are in. Gotcha. And, of course, he is MUCH more concerned with us Americans and other people in first-world countries and our sexual orientations. Gotcha. Do you not see how ridiculous you sound? Take away the bible blinders and look around you.

And I suppose I will go to hell for being tolerant. Well, I guess I would rather go to hell for going against your god by being tolerant and loving to my fellow human being than believe in a god that would send me to heaven only as long as I play by his awful rules.

The bible was written by men, picked through, translated numerous times, edited and changed how many times? It's not "god" I don't believe in. It's all religion and all religious books, words and rules written by human beings to control mankind. It worked with you! Fear has you under its thumb.

Duskangels
Good for her. The homosexual agenda is spreading like a cancer in this country. If we don't do something now, the whole country will rot and die from moral degradation!

That is inevitable anyway, better give up the idea of a hetero only society where no one even thinks you might be gay just because you're being happy and nice to some guy and prepare for more gayness.

In case you have missed it the gay male has been conqueroring the world since a few decades, only a few countries remain rebellious and have wisely created laws to protect themselves against others trying to oppress them with their truth about love. Unlike other countries who have made laws to protect gays, which couldn't be necessary since there are human rights but they wanted to be named and seen as different from everybody else. Which they are in one respect but at the same time they are equal to everybody else, must be gay logic.

I say live and let live but I'd tell my children if they choose to become gay that's their choice and dad will help them find a room and move their stuff out of the house and probably get some money for support. It's my choice not to be gay or have anything to do with it, it would be my choice to have a child so my responsibility but if he or she decides that is what he or she is going to do I'll respect that but they also have to respect my choice not to have anything to do with it. I just don't want to live with lies or untruths in my house. It would be the same as my child joining any organized religion, about which I would teach and warn them also.

It's a harsh world, we all make decisions and have to deal with the consequences of those decisions, can't change other people, can't make people accept that kind of love as if it were true. Although some believe it's possible but I'm not one of them.

I love that there are people like the grandfather who wrote the letter in this world. People who are loving and kind and precious willing to take on the responsibilities of others!

It is sad when a family has a selfish dysfunctional person effecting the others, the mother in this case. The son can not help who he is. It is what it is. People should really try to love one another for their differences. May the differences be skin color, religion, culture, nationality, north/ south, rich/ poor, short/ tall, fat/thin, intelligent/dumb, sexual preferences, diseased, etc...

Have a Blessed Day!

Christian Voice
reply to post by AfterInfinity

 

God did not create his car, man did. However God did create man. He gave specific parts to man and specific parts to woman and the parts match each other. Man's parts do not match another man's parts nor a woman's match a woman's. If he used his car for a submarine then that would be against the car's purpose. Man with man is against our purpose.
What is the NATURAL result of the male orgasm ? Sperm is released. That is the NATURAL purpose of the male orgasm. What is the only NATURAL purpose of sperm ? To fertilize an egg (only produced by females). Now given these things we can conclude that the only NATURAL purpose for the male orgasm is to release sperm and fertilize an egg. Now if a one man can put his thing anywhere in another man and fertilize an egg I will kiss your butt.
This is why we call it unnatural!!!
What do two women do when they have sex with each other ? Use a fake penis and emulate heterosexual sex. Same with men, they emulate heterosexual sex. You would figure somewhere along the way one would realize "Hey, I'm just pretending this other guy is a girl when I have sex with him"

How would you feel if I told you that wasn't true at all? Also, sex is secondary here. Love is what is important.

Duskangels
reply to post by cuckooold

 

You are the sickest most vile piece of trash I've ever came across! You sir will pay dearly for your heresy!

This is the funniest thing I have read.

Quoting the bible = heresy. LOL....only in the mind of the religious.

Duskangels
Good for her. The homosexual agenda is spreading like a cancer in this country. If we don't do something now, the whole country will rot and die from moral degradation!

Wait, so you think that one can be recruited to being gay?

Do you folks not realize that this is an admission of homosexual feelings on your own part? Your opinion is tainted by your own personal contexts, which obviously includes that you choose to have heterosexual sex. But could easily choose homosexual acts, if it wasn't immoral.

I, on the other hand, could not be aroused around another naked male and thus would find homosexual sex to be an impossibility. Therefore, for me homosexuality is not a choice. It is what I am.

So, does fighting your homomsexual urges cause you very much angst? Seems like you are angry.....

Christian Voice
God is very clear on his stance of homosexuality ...

Yes .. Jesus (God Incarnate) said ... Love your neighbor as yourself. He treated everyone with equal love. In fact, Jesus said nothing about homosexuality at all in any of the gospels. The followers of Jesus later wrote and they said nothing about homosexuality in the Book of Acts, in Hebrews, in Revelation, or in the letters attributed to James, Peter, and John

If you are referring to Romans .. that was written by Paul. Corinthians and Timothy, also written by followers of followers of Jesus and they do not quote Jesus Himself. Lots of anti-homosexual cultural dispositions in their writings. But nothing quoting Jesus saying that Homosexuality is evil.

So if you believe that Jesus is God, or that Jesus was a direct messenger of God, the yes, Jesus very clearly did NOT single out homosexuals in any way.

Christian Voice
But why, you ask, didn’t Jesus speak directly against homosexuality? Simply put, He assumed the moral tenets of the Mosaic law, as did the people He spoke to.

I think it's YOU that is assuming something that isn't there.

Christian Voice
So your wife takes birth control meds to prevent her from being in pain ? That's odd. I have never heard of a case where something as unnatural as birth control was absolutely needed for pain prevention.

Then you need to get out more .... There is NOTHING odd about it.
Birth control pills aren't just for birth control.
They are hormonal and provide relief from many medical issues.

15% of women suffer menstrual pain so severe that they miss work or school. That is especially true for women with endometriosis. (I had severe endometriosis .. it's very serious). That article is from TIME. Click here to see it from ABC News Birth Control Pills relieve this pain.

Birth Control Pills used to treat severe acne . You know .. acne that scars the face and leaves the face looking like a giant raw pizza. It's psychologically hard on the person and it's disfiguring.

Birth Control Pills are used to regulate hormones . People with hormones that are wildly out of whack can use birth control pills to get them back in line. It is very important to have the hormones in line, otherwise the brain can be effected as well as the organs in the body. And if hormones are out of whack, a woman can have a continual 'period' that can leave her anemic. Also, a woman will have miscarriage after miscarriage if her hormones are not in line. Birth Control Pills take care of these medical issues.

reply to post by tothetenthpower


Homosexuality is not natural among humans. If someone is gay, there is an underlying reason. If it's the way we are born, then there's a reason for that too!

If it was natural in the long run, why can men not reproduce without women?

I am against it. I believe that the world has come to accept it as natural due to ignorance and lack of understanding about the true nature of human beings and our consciousness.