FBI interrogated man after comment about American “Police State” on Facebook

I am a capable combattant and I too have a Facebook page.I never threaten anyone...ever.
I warn some people if they act up but they know I won't harm them if they keep their hands to themselves.I post a great deal of topics against the system and they haven't jumped me yet.
I really wouldn't care if they did I would drop it then. I'm not really into the computer thing.

reply to post by cavtrooper7


Facebook is all well and good till someone says something bad (SHOCKINGLY) that they would also get in trouble for, for saying it out loud and in public - crucial difference is weather anyone heard it or not. facebook did and it knows where you live.

What you should take from this? If you are going to # talk someone, do it to their face so they can punch you for it and be done with it like real humans.

I consider Blaine Cooper, 33 a martyr of the secret surveillance system.

None of those agencies who interviewed him have arrested, detained,
or even investigated a single person in relation to the sub prime mortgage
crisis. You know. The one that cost the public tax payer trillions of
dollars.

All that key logging, and yet they don't have a clue who took all the money
or where it went. But the second someone expresses an opinion, they
take action.

Mike

reply to post by mikegrouchy


You make a real good point. If someone so much as spits on the wrong piece of federal property, we'll all know his life history, internet searches and associations online going back for years...

Indeed tho...Where ARE all these big brother magic devices when the people are just screwing the rest of us out of billions and worse as a routine course of business. Not legal screwing...but outright law breaking. Big brother DOES seem to be entirely missing there, huh?

I can't believe that hadn't crossed my mind before ...but no kidding?? So this means everyone with bad intent can just go use a BofA computer or Goldman Sachs system to do their dirty deeds and never get caught? yeah... I don't buy that for one second. They are just VERY VERY selective about what is worth using, huh?

Thanks for making a point I'd totally missed all this time.

whyamIhere
Some things should not be posted on the net.

This happens to be a classic example.

I understand pissed...But what did he expect?

Well... You and Wrabbit have a good point, sort of.... In a way, it is understandable why this attracted some attention. And it brings to mind an interesting, and rather tricky (IMO) issue-- Where is the line drawn, and where should it be drawn? What should be considered free speech, and what should be considered threat, or inciting?

There is a part of me that agrees with the above sentiments-- this guy was almost asking for it, writing what he did. However, wasn't this country set up, with the second amendment and all, with the idea that if our government ever became tyrannical and oppressive-- that we should have the means, and more or less the right to take back the country, by force if necessary?


And this brings an even better, even trickier question-- How should the government respond to this? Those in power have an incentive to keep that power, and keep the status quo. But they also have a responsibility to uphold our constitution, and preserve the spirit under which this country was founded. Which, in a sense, in one regard, should even mean to preserve our right and ability to put our collective foot down, if we think the government is turning oppressive.

So, since the right to be free and governed fairly is an integral part of our country, and its spirit (and yes, even its law) yet at the same time, the government's "right" to defend and preserve itself from outside threats is part of Standard Operating Procedure.... how can these two elements co-exist? Can they?

How dare you say a police state exists, as we come to your home enforcing a police state!!!

reply to post by iwilliam


We all write edgy stuff occasionally.

The line is clearly implied threats.

I do agree this type of speech should have Constitutional protections.

In a post 911 world, any threat of violence will attract law enforcement.

This guy is just dumb. However, he's an American and that comes with certain Rights.

mikegrouchy
I consider Blaine Cooper, 33 a martyr of the secret surveillance system.

None of those agencies who interviewed him have arrested, detained,
or even investigated a single person in relation to the sub prime mortgage
crisis. You know. The one that cost the public tax payer trillions of
dollars.

All that key logging, and yet they don't have a clue who took all the money
or where it went. But the second someone expresses an opinion, they
take action.

Mike

Your reply deserves a thread of it's own. This has been going on long before 9/11 so it could be assumed they knew it was coming, where the $2.3 trillion Rumsfeld couldn't find went and a host of other things. Yet no-one in finance or government ever went to jail or got so much as demoted. This speaks volumes about who is in cahoots with who, namely the NSA+WallStreet+Military-industrial complex+oil companies. Same bunch of crooks running the whole show.

With all of the recent mass shootings and people losing it, grabbing an assault rifle, shotgun or pistol and going to crowded places to shoot everyone that crosses their path I think it's justified that the authorities are taking every action possible to ensure that nothing slips through the cracks.

muse7
I think it's justified that the authorities are taking every action possible to ensure that nothing slips through the cracks.

They have been, yet everything slips through the cracks. Or does it? I mean with that sort of surveillance and "intelligence" any act that did get through the net must be one of their own operations eh?

whyamIhere
Some things should not be posted on the net.

This happens to be a classic example.

I understand pissed...But what did he expect?

freedom of speech and secure in your person.. that is what he expected i'd say.


the problem is those that harassed him, If they are willing to spit on our heritage of freedom then wow!

they have no Honor or Integrity. sickening.

I will be visited some day, for sure. If freedom of speech is trampled along with every other freedom, and others accept it, we are truly lost. Every family member of every agent/cop that harassed the guy should be shunned by family, and look in the mirror.. MY GOD.. no wonder I was on of the few.. FOR MOST the paycheck is good enough to be a tool.

NOT ME! live by a code.. Honor. there is NONE in having a badge..

If Stalin, Hitler, Mao locked up rapists, thieves, and murderers would they be respected? I mean really, would that be all it takes to allow every DESPICABLE thing done. Heck, when a guy knows what he is doing is "messed up"does that guy have ANY INTEGRITY?

Cops even have unions FFS,

THEY COULD NIP 75% of the issues in the bud.... IF THEY WANTED TO!

Asktheanimals
This speaks volumes about who is in cahoots with who, namely the NSA+WallStreet+Military-industrial complex+oil companies. Same bunch of crooks running the whole show.

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You left out the pharmaceutical corporations.

Their role is worthy of mention.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


I think you summed it up perfectly. Sentiment is one thing, but... what did they used to call it? - "rabble-rousing" - "inciting to" (fill in the blank here). Yeah. I would have been surprised if he hadn't been paid a visit. What an idiot. What an ultra-maroon. What a nin-cow-poop. And so forth and so on.

Now perhaps if you found yourself surrounded by 10 or 20 of those things, well then that's a different story entirely. It's pretty simple. Beat 'em or burn 'em. They go up pretty easy. Yeah, they're dead. They're all messed up.

Hang on, I seem to have drifted off into Night Of The Living Dead for a moment...

Anyway. Yeah. Why invite trouble when you can just as easily pop a dinner in the microwave, kick back, put on a good film and call it a day.

It worked for Han Solo.

greencmp
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Yeah well, not only was it foolish it was wrong.

The only way we can effect lasting and constructive change is through peaceful local legislative action.

In short, we have to start going to our town meetings and making level-headed demands for the reduction of unconstitutional and unnecessary official power.

edit on 30-9-2013 by greencmp because: (no reason given)

History shows that nearly every major change in policy and style of government usually comes from armed rebellions and revolutions. Plenty of coup de tat's happened this century and hundreds over the last millennium. If they fail, there is the possibility of civil war.

Heck, there's always one going on: www.timesofisrael.com...

How many bloodless coups are there? And how many would you expect with such a deeply divided nation?

Personally, I don't see anything happening in 'Merica, unless conditions started getting Soviet/Nazi/Cambodia style in the next 50 years.

America is one of the most stable governments there are. SO... Overblowing the situation, trying to tell people it's on the verge of revolution when it's not, is kind of like inciting... This is not Egypt, Brasil, Africa...

Some would like you to believe things are already like that now, but I don't see it. Very possible however, given the apathetic feelings towards government, but no where near "blood in the streets" so I can understand why his comments obviously sparked some concern.

He might have saved himself some trouble had he stated "My prediction of the future in X amount of years"

reply to post by greencmp


You're reply read to me like a wall of bureaucracy. I guess we will agree to differ.

All the more reason NOT to have a FB account. And who turned law enforcement onto this guy? A friend, a concerned family member? That would be the first question I'd have asked, "How did you know what I said?" I had a FB account, most of my friends and family have one and yes, it's a great way to stay in touch but how many of us know people who have been fired from their jobs because of facebook? I know one for sure and several others that I have heard about. That's just the start of how it can be used against us, and don't give me that well, if you're not doing nothing wrong you don't have anything to worry about crap. It's so reminiscent of Big Brother and just because it originally started out as a "great idea" doesn't mean it is one. Oh, by the way think who started it and from the age group it was geared towards. Way to try to have our First Amendments encroached upon, I mean think about it, it's a great testing ground. For what exactly? Exactly this sort of thing. We live in a time where our words are monitored by some "agency" and honestly, it's fricken' scary.

reply to post by queenofsheba

Rule of thumb - Facebook is great for connecting with family and friends ONLY, either through photo's and home movies and 'twitter' like comments. Entertaining small talk only - nothing serious. Nobody cares anyway about your 'conspiratorial' thoughts and ideas.

I have never talked about anything political - even prior to all this NSA spying nonsense. Not even a hidden political statement via an image or whatever. People on Facebook actually do not like deep talk especially if it means talking about the government. Small talk only, and I don't blame them at all regardless of NSA - its their right (and mine too).

The guy referred to in the OP - he's wearing a dunce cap, and is not the brightest guy on the block. As soon as I saw him comments and the way it was structured I knew it was going to be impossible to proceed. Nothing made any sense at all - it was like reading a plate of week old spaghetti.

reply to post by YodHeVauHe


What Facebook is "supposed to be" and what it is/has become are two different things. I've read some of the most personal things put out by young people, my own dumb kid, for instance and it takes my breath away. Why, why do you put on public display for the world to see all your BS? Regardless, the question needs to be asked is who is listening/watching and is that right? Don't tell me it's for "my safety" because if it worked we wouldn't be having breaking news on the latest attack, in whatever way, shape or form that manifests itself. I'm surprised people here on ATS don't get the knock on their door because from what I've read on here I wouldn't be surprised.

reply to post by ATSmediaPRO


If this doesn't convince the sheeple we are living in a police state then I don't know what will

starwarsisreal
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If this doesn't convince the sheeple we are living in a police state then I don't know what will

Look at how fast. from being a tinfoiler for mentioning a police state, to accepting and defending it.

WOW dude huh?

Cant believe it, if a man had integrity, he could NOT be a Police officer.. Locking up the obvious somehow has given free reign to straight up act worse than the gestapo, S/S, or whomever.

While people are getting harassed for saying " gee, ...., but I hope not" all the while. those same THUGS are arming themselves to the teeth with state of the art WARFIGHTING GEAR!!

FFS.... they are JACK BOOT THUGS with NO HONOR..

COME VISIT ME FOR THAT THUGS.. CALLING you a being without HONOR... I must be a terrorist now.. I am speaking of HONOR.. lol