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I think I know What Chemtrails are... and it's worse than you can imagine!

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posted on Oct, 9 2013 @ 05:48 AM
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mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

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That requires existing clouds Fozzie


What are contrails????

Korg.


edit on 9-10-2013 by Korg Trinity because: (no reason given)


So they're creating artificial contrails where contrails couldn't possibly exist and then spraying them with seawater to make them more reflective? Is that your theory?


No I suspect they are adding particulate to the contrail to create reflective cloud cover.

Korg.


How are they creating the contrail in the first place?


Please read aforementioned patents above!

Korg.


Wouldn't work. Please see my post regarding aircraft capacity


Before you can say that you would need to know the volume of particulate required to give the desired effect.

Korg.



posted on Oct, 9 2013 @ 06:18 AM
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mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

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Korg Trinity

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That requires existing clouds Fozzie


What are contrails????

Korg.


edit on 9-10-2013 by Korg Trinity because: (no reason given)


So they're creating artificial contrails where contrails couldn't possibly exist and then spraying them with seawater to make them more reflective? Is that your theory?


No I suspect they are adding particulate to the contrail to create reflective cloud cover.

Korg.


How are they creating the contrail in the first place?


Please read aforementioned patents above!

Korg.


Wouldn't work. Please see my post regarding aircraft capacity


Before you can say that you would need to know the volume of particulate required to give the desired effect.

Korg.


The desired effect is a thick white trail miles wide and possibly hundreds long. Not possible.



posted on Oct, 9 2013 @ 06:30 AM
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mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy
reply to post by Korg Trinity
 


That requires existing clouds Fozzie


What are contrails????

Korg.


edit on 9-10-2013 by Korg Trinity because: (no reason given)


So they're creating artificial contrails where contrails couldn't possibly exist and then spraying them with seawater to make them more reflective? Is that your theory?


No I suspect they are adding particulate to the contrail to create reflective cloud cover.

Korg.


How are they creating the contrail in the first place?


Please read aforementioned patents above!

Korg.


Wouldn't work. Please see my post regarding aircraft capacity


Before you can say that you would need to know the volume of particulate required to give the desired effect.

Korg.


The desired effect is a thick white trail miles wide and possibly hundreds long. Not possible.


Please review the following...

I am not suggesting they carry the water with them... just the particulate to ensure humidity that would not normally create cloud cover does... in addition in crease the albedo of the clouds subsequently formed.

Do you see?

Korg.



posted on Oct, 9 2013 @ 06:31 AM
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Before you can say that you would need to know the volume of particulate required to give the desired effect.


It's your theory. Isn't that something YOU should know?



posted on Oct, 9 2013 @ 06:51 AM
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DenyObfuscation
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Before you can say that you would need to know the volume of particulate required to give the desired effect.


It's your theory. Isn't that something YOU should know?


Well when cloud seeding they have tried with varying degrees of effectiveness anything from 10 ppm to 500 ppm.

But that was seeding for rain fall.

What I do know is that the higher the level of particulate the higher the Albedo of the resulting cloud would be.

To be able to define volume requirements, there are two variables we do not have data on.

1. What particulate is being used

2. What concentration of said particulate is needed in ppm to form desired results.

We could attempt to narrow down the first variable by creating a list of particulates in order of their effectiveness verses there mass.

To give an answer on both the first and second variable you would need to conduct experiments to ascertain the minimum requirements to produce the desired effects.

True to the scientific method!

Korg.


edit on 9-10-2013 by Korg Trinity because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 9 2013 @ 06:59 AM
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Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

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Korg Trinity

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Korg Trinity

mrthumpy
reply to post by Korg Trinity
 


That requires existing clouds Fozzie


What are contrails????

Korg.


edit on 9-10-2013 by Korg Trinity because: (no reason given)


So they're creating artificial contrails where contrails couldn't possibly exist and then spraying them with seawater to make them more reflective? Is that your theory?


No I suspect they are adding particulate to the contrail to create reflective cloud cover.

Korg.


How are they creating the contrail in the first place?


Please read aforementioned patents above!

Korg.


Wouldn't work. Please see my post regarding aircraft capacity


Before you can say that you would need to know the volume of particulate required to give the desired effect.

Korg.


The desired effect is a thick white trail miles wide and possibly hundreds long. Not possible.


Please review the following...

I am not suggesting they carry the water with them... just the particulate to ensure humidity that would not normally create cloud cover does... in addition in crease the albedo of the clouds subsequently formed.

Do you see?

Korg.


But the humidity is insufficient for contrail formation, that's how you spot chemtrails.

Do you see?



posted on Oct, 9 2013 @ 07:02 AM
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I see! I get exactly what you're saying!
Rainbows
Jane



posted on Oct, 9 2013 @ 07:14 AM
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mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy
reply to post by Korg Trinity
 


That requires existing clouds Fozzie


What are contrails????

Korg.


edit on 9-10-2013 by Korg Trinity because: (no reason given)


So they're creating artificial contrails where contrails couldn't possibly exist and then spraying them with seawater to make them more reflective? Is that your theory?


No I suspect they are adding particulate to the contrail to create reflective cloud cover.

Korg.


How are they creating the contrail in the first place?


Please read aforementioned patents above!

Korg.


Wouldn't work. Please see my post regarding aircraft capacity


Before you can say that you would need to know the volume of particulate required to give the desired effect.

Korg.


The desired effect is a thick white trail miles wide and possibly hundreds long. Not possible.


Please review the following...

I am not suggesting they carry the water with them... just the particulate to ensure humidity that would not normally create cloud cover does... in addition in crease the albedo of the clouds subsequently formed.

Do you see?

Korg.


But the humidity is insufficient for contrail formation, that's how you spot chemtrails.

Do you see?


I think you misunderstand what I'm getting at. The purpose of the particulate is to create clouds with high Albedo where there wouldn't normally be enough humidity to create clouds or in fact contrails.

Do you follow what I'm trying to convey?

Korg.



posted on Oct, 9 2013 @ 07:23 AM
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mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy
reply to post by Korg Trinity
 


That requires existing clouds Fozzie


What are contrails????

Korg.


edit on 9-10-2013 by Korg Trinity because: (no reason given)


So they're creating artificial contrails where contrails couldn't possibly exist and then spraying them with seawater to make them more reflective? Is that your theory?


No I suspect they are adding particulate to the contrail to create reflective cloud cover.

Korg.


How are they creating the contrail in the first place?


Please read aforementioned patents above!

Korg.


Wouldn't work. Please see my post regarding aircraft capacity


Before you can say that you would need to know the volume of particulate required to give the desired effect.

Korg.


The desired effect is a thick white trail miles wide and possibly hundreds long. Not possible.


Please review the following...

I am not suggesting they carry the water with them... just the particulate to ensure humidity that would not normally create cloud cover does... in addition in crease the albedo of the clouds subsequently formed.

Do you see?

Korg.


But the humidity is insufficient for contrail formation, that's how you spot chemtrails.

Do you see?


I think you misunderstand what I'm getting at. The purpose of the particulate is to create clouds with high Albedo where there wouldn't normally be enough humidity to create clouds or in fact contrails.

Do you follow what I'm trying to convey?

Korg.



So they're creating clouds where there isn't enough humidity for clouds to form but the planes aren't carrying the water to add to the humidity.

Yes. That all makes perfect sense.



posted on Oct, 9 2013 @ 07:27 AM
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Korg Trinity

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Korg Trinity

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Korg Trinity

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Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy
reply to post by Korg Trinity
 


That requires existing clouds Fozzie


What are contrails????

Korg.


edit on 9-10-2013 by Korg Trinity because: (no reason given)


So they're creating artificial contrails where contrails couldn't possibly exist and then spraying them with seawater to make them more reflective? Is that your theory?


No I suspect they are adding particulate to the contrail to create reflective cloud cover.

Korg.


How are they creating the contrail in the first place?


Please read aforementioned patents above!

Korg.


Wouldn't work. Please see my post regarding aircraft capacity


Before you can say that you would need to know the volume of particulate required to give the desired effect.

Korg.


The desired effect is a thick white trail miles wide and possibly hundreds long. Not possible.


Please review the following...

I am not suggesting they carry the water with them... just the particulate to ensure humidity that would not normally create cloud cover does... in addition in crease the albedo of the clouds subsequently formed.

Do you see?

Korg.


But the humidity is insufficient for contrail formation, that's how you spot chemtrails.

Do you see?


I think you misunderstand what I'm getting at. The purpose of the particulate is to create clouds with high Albedo where there wouldn't normally be enough humidity to create clouds or in fact contrails.

Do you follow what I'm trying to convey?

Korg.



So they're creating clouds where there isn't enough humidity for clouds to form but the planes aren't carrying the water to add to the humidity.

Yes. That all makes perfect sense.



Yes exactly... though you forgot to add something

they're creating clouds where there isn't enough humidity for clouds to form NATURALLY but the planes aren't carrying the water to add to the humidity.

Korg.



posted on Oct, 9 2013 @ 07:49 AM
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Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy
reply to post by Korg Trinity
 


That requires existing clouds Fozzie


What are contrails????

Korg.


edit on 9-10-2013 by Korg Trinity because: (no reason given)


So they're creating artificial contrails where contrails couldn't possibly exist and then spraying them with seawater to make them more reflective? Is that your theory?


No I suspect they are adding particulate to the contrail to create reflective cloud cover.

Korg.


How are they creating the contrail in the first place?


Please read aforementioned patents above!

Korg.


Wouldn't work. Please see my post regarding aircraft capacity


Before you can say that you would need to know the volume of particulate required to give the desired effect.

Korg.


The desired effect is a thick white trail miles wide and possibly hundreds long. Not possible.


Please review the following...

I am not suggesting they carry the water with them... just the particulate to ensure humidity that would not normally create cloud cover does... in addition in crease the albedo of the clouds subsequently formed.

Do you see?

Korg.


But the humidity is insufficient for contrail formation, that's how you spot chemtrails.

Do you see?


I think you misunderstand what I'm getting at. The purpose of the particulate is to create clouds with high Albedo where there wouldn't normally be enough humidity to create clouds or in fact contrails.

Do you follow what I'm trying to convey?

Korg.



So they're creating clouds where there isn't enough humidity for clouds to form but the planes aren't carrying the water to add to the humidity.

Yes. That all makes perfect sense.



Yes exactly... though you forgot to add something

they're creating clouds where there isn't enough humidity for clouds to form NATURALLY but the planes aren't carrying the water to add to the humidity.

Korg.


So which of the patents allows them to increase the relative humidity with respect to ice?



posted on Oct, 9 2013 @ 08:13 AM
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Korg Trinity

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Korg Trinity

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Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

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Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

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Korg Trinity

mrthumpy
reply to post by Korg Trinity
 


That requires existing clouds Fozzie


What are contrails????

Korg.


edit on 9-10-2013 by Korg Trinity because: (no reason given)


So they're creating artificial contrails where contrails couldn't possibly exist and then spraying them with seawater to make them more reflective? Is that your theory?


No I suspect they are adding particulate to the contrail to create reflective cloud cover.

Korg.


How are they creating the contrail in the first place?


Please read aforementioned patents above!

Korg.


Wouldn't work. Please see my post regarding aircraft capacity


Before you can say that you would need to know the volume of particulate required to give the desired effect.

Korg.


The desired effect is a thick white trail miles wide and possibly hundreds long. Not possible.


Please review the following...

I am not suggesting they carry the water with them... just the particulate to ensure humidity that would not normally create cloud cover does... in addition in crease the albedo of the clouds subsequently formed.

Do you see?

Korg.


But the humidity is insufficient for contrail formation, that's how you spot chemtrails.

Do you see?


I think you misunderstand what I'm getting at. The purpose of the particulate is to create clouds with high Albedo where there wouldn't normally be enough humidity to create clouds or in fact contrails.

Do you follow what I'm trying to convey?

Korg.



So they're creating clouds where there isn't enough humidity for clouds to form but the planes aren't carrying the water to add to the humidity.

Yes. That all makes perfect sense.



Yes exactly... though you forgot to add something

they're creating clouds where there isn't enough humidity for clouds to form NATURALLY but the planes aren't carrying the water to add to the humidity.

Korg.


So which of the patents allows them to increase the relative humidity with respect to ice?


You don't need to increase the humidity... only a particulate that would create a cloud from less humidity.

Think of it like this... Salt lowers the freezing point of water... the temperature maybe 0 degrees but the water remains a liquid.

Korg.


edit on 9-10-2013 by Korg Trinity because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 9 2013 @ 08:33 AM
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mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy
reply to post by Korg Trinity
 


That requires existing clouds Fozzie


What are contrails????

Korg.


edit on 9-10-2013 by Korg Trinity because: (no reason given)


So they're creating artificial contrails where contrails couldn't possibly exist and then spraying them with seawater to make them more reflective? Is that your theory?


No I suspect they are adding particulate to the contrail to create reflective cloud cover.

Korg.


How are they creating the contrail in the first place?


Please read aforementioned patents above!

Korg.


Wouldn't work. Please see my post regarding aircraft capacity


Before you can say that you would need to know the volume of particulate required to give the desired effect.

Korg.


The desired effect is a thick white trail miles wide and possibly hundreds long. Not possible.


Please review the following...

I am not suggesting they carry the water with them... just the particulate to ensure humidity that would not normally create cloud cover does... in addition in crease the albedo of the clouds subsequently formed.

Do you see?

Korg.


But the humidity is insufficient for contrail formation, that's how you spot chemtrails.

Do you see?


I think you misunderstand what I'm getting at. The purpose of the particulate is to create clouds with high Albedo where there wouldn't normally be enough humidity to create clouds or in fact contrails.

Do you follow what I'm trying to convey?

Korg.



So they're creating clouds where there isn't enough humidity for clouds to form but the planes aren't carrying the water to add to the humidity.

Yes. That all makes perfect sense.



Yes exactly... though you forgot to add something

they're creating clouds where there isn't enough humidity for clouds to form NATURALLY but the planes aren't carrying the water to add to the humidity.

Korg.


So which of the patents allows them to increase the relative humidity with respect to ice?


You don't need to increase the humidity.


edit on 9-10-2013 by Korg Trinity because: (no reason given)


You do if you want to prevent sublimation otherwise the trails wouldn't persist.



posted on Oct, 9 2013 @ 08:36 AM
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Korg Trinity

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Korg Trinity

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Korg Trinity

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Korg Trinity

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Korg Trinity

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Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy
reply to post by Korg Trinity
 


That requires existing clouds Fozzie


What are contrails????

Korg.


edit on 9-10-2013 by Korg Trinity because: (no reason given)


So they're creating artificial contrails where contrails couldn't possibly exist and then spraying them with seawater to make them more reflective? Is that your theory?


No I suspect they are adding particulate to the contrail to create reflective cloud cover.

Korg.


How are they creating the contrail in the first place?


Please read aforementioned patents above!

Korg.


Wouldn't work. Please see my post regarding aircraft capacity


Before you can say that you would need to know the volume of particulate required to give the desired effect.

Korg.


The desired effect is a thick white trail miles wide and possibly hundreds long. Not possible.


Please review the following...

I am not suggesting they carry the water with them... just the particulate to ensure humidity that would not normally create cloud cover does... in addition in crease the albedo of the clouds subsequently formed.

Do you see?

Korg.


But the humidity is insufficient for contrail formation, that's how you spot chemtrails.

Do you see?


I think you misunderstand what I'm getting at. The purpose of the particulate is to create clouds with high Albedo where there wouldn't normally be enough humidity to create clouds or in fact contrails.

Do you follow what I'm trying to convey?

Korg.



So they're creating clouds where there isn't enough humidity for clouds to form but the planes aren't carrying the water to add to the humidity.

Yes. That all makes perfect sense.



Yes exactly... though you forgot to add something

they're creating clouds where there isn't enough humidity for clouds to form NATURALLY but the planes aren't carrying the water to add to the humidity.

Korg.


So which of the patents allows them to increase the relative humidity with respect to ice?


You don't need to increase the humidity.


edit on 9-10-2013 by Korg Trinity because: (no reason given)


You do if you want to prevent sublimation otherwise the trails wouldn't persist.


Not if you can lower the freezing point of water!

Korg.



posted on Oct, 9 2013 @ 09:04 AM
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mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy

Korg Trinity

mrthumpy
reply to post by Korg Trinity
 


That requires existing clouds Fozzie


What are contrails????

Korg.


edit on 9-10-2013 by Korg Trinity because: (no reason given)


So they're creating artificial contrails where contrails couldn't possibly exist and then spraying them with seawater to make them more reflective? Is that your theory?


No I suspect they are adding particulate to the contrail to create reflective cloud cover.

Korg.


How are they creating the contrail in the first place?


Please read aforementioned patents above!

Korg.


Wouldn't work. Please see my post regarding aircraft capacity


Before you can say that you would need to know the volume of particulate required to give the desired effect.

Korg.


The desired effect is a thick white trail miles wide and possibly hundreds long. Not possible.


Please review the following...

I am not suggesting they carry the water with them... just the particulate to ensure humidity that would not normally create cloud cover does... in addition in crease the albedo of the clouds subsequently formed.

Do you see?

Korg.


But the humidity is insufficient for contrail formation, that's how you spot chemtrails.

Do you see?


I think you misunderstand what I'm getting at. The purpose of the particulate is to create clouds with high Albedo where there wouldn't normally be enough humidity to create clouds or in fact contrails.

Do you follow what I'm trying to convey?

Korg.



So they're creating clouds where there isn't enough humidity for clouds to form but the planes aren't carrying the water to add to the humidity.

Yes. That all makes perfect sense.



Yes exactly... though you forgot to add something

they're creating clouds where there isn't enough humidity for clouds to form NATURALLY but the planes aren't carrying the water to add to the humidity.

Korg.


So which of the patents allows them to increase the relative humidity with respect to ice?


You don't need to increase the humidity.


edit on 9-10-2013 by Korg Trinity because: (no reason given)


You do if you want to prevent sublimation otherwise the trails wouldn't persist.


Not if you can lower the freezing point of water!

Korg.


Really? That's seriously the answer you're going with?



posted on Oct, 9 2013 @ 09:15 AM
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So again, it's perfectly fine for you to twist words of others, because what you claim I said is NOTHING like what I actually said. So you are twisting words just as badly as you claim others are twisting your words, but apparently that's just fine to do.



posted on Oct, 9 2013 @ 09:29 AM
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So again, it's perfectly fine for you to twist words of others, because what you claim I said is NOTHING like what I actually said. So you are twisting words just as badly as you claim others are twisting your words, but apparently that's just fine to do.


Stop trying to derail the thread!

If you don't have anything to say on the actual thread topic, then please refrain from posting!

Korg.



posted on Oct, 9 2013 @ 09:37 AM
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Not if you can lower the freezing point of water!


How is this relevant? An explanation might be helpful.



posted on Oct, 9 2013 @ 09:50 AM
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Not if you can lower the freezing point of water!


How is this relevant? An explanation might be helpful.


Helpful I doubt. Amusing, probably.



posted on Oct, 9 2013 @ 09:59 AM
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mrthumpy

DenyObfuscation
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Not if you can lower the freezing point of water!


How is this relevant? An explanation might be helpful.


Helpful I doubt. Amusing, probably.


It's comments like that that are very telling of your attitude towards this discussion.

Please read the following definition and you tell me if you fall into any of the defined qualities that goes to make a TROLL..


In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, , or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either accidentally or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers ...


Korg.



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