It is time to expose the secret societies

Quick, expose them before the Government re-opens!!

I have a few questions for you guys.
If we already know about them aren't they already exposed?
Second if it is because they are "EVIL" that is not a fair assumption to make as a generalization across the board. I can explain that. Lets say you were in a "hobby" club and you raced rc cars lets say. If one member of your "Clubhouse" cheated does it make all members bad? There is Yin&Yang everywhere. They just may very-well be using "black magic" but if you have not read anything they preach? I am going to make two scenarios guys and they are: 1) If you believe there using black magic then you A) believe there is truth to the story....so they will get what they deserve from using the magic in the inappropriate way. Or 2) That there is no such thing as magical powers and you have dreamed up this entire "Exposing secret societies" and it is just a shill in your own mind. I mean if there is any bit of substance to what they say and they are evilly manipulating us then they must be using magic or the people are so honestly gone that there that easy to lead? I know there secret societies but i believe they have alot more important things to worry about then "Trying to take over the world". Lets think logically guys 1 + 1 = 2 that is a FACT....

reply to post by Drilluminati


Yep, You have it right. Masons are just men. I'd like to say most good, some bad (a few) but maybe I am biased since I am one.

We are simply a group who believes in a higher power, uses stories and allegory from the Bible and other sources to teach morality and help a man become a better man. It may sound cheesey, but the fellowship and friendship you find along with the caliber of men you meet is second to none.

People tend to fear what they don't understand and sometimes they make up fantastic stores to make themselves feel a bit more important. If that makes them happy, great. I hope everyone is happy. I sure am.

If you don't believe me, go to a lodge and find out for yourself. Reading on the internet is a very poor choice for truth.

reply to post by OMsk3ptic

What exactly is about Freemasonry as a specific example?

reply to post by AbleEndangered

The American government never truly shutdown. It's all a political farse.

Drilluminati
1) If you believe there using black magic then you...

...never really stopped playing Dungeons and Dragons.

OMsk3ptic
These societies have been exposing themselves purposely, slowly rolling out Mystery Babylon for the consumption of the masses. Just like all their plans, they do it slowly, little by little, so that the masses aren't aware of them gradually eroding our values and replacing them with their evil beliefs, exactly like they have done with our economy over the last century. For anyone with eyes to see, this is self-evident.

If you think secret societies like the Freemasons, Rosicrucians, and mystery schools are the underpinnings of the erosion of morals, values, and society, then you clearly know NOTHING about these organizations and philosophies. All of them work to RESTORE those things in their individuals and communities. It's people who want to point the finger at others and have a lack of personal accountability and responsibility that are the culprits for the demise of our society. That's what happens when you fall into an entitlement state.

AugustusMasonicus

Drilluminati
1) If you believe there using black magic then you...

...never really stopped playing Dungeons and Dragons.

Magick is very real. And i believe it can be used for both good and evil. If you use it for evil you shall suffer more. Many of our great minds were into rituals and other occult learnings. It is not the magic you speak about of dungeons and dragons. Its the invocation of spirits. These spirits are not outside the body but within the depths of the mind. As a hermetic principal or correspondence states "As above, so below; as below, so above."

The list of the others:
1. The Principle of Mentalism.
2. The Principle of Correspondence.
3. The Principle of Vibration.
4. The Principle of Polarity.
5. The Principle of Rhythm.
6. The Principle of Cause and Effect.
7. The Principle of Gender.
they are more valid any other principles i have any seen!

Drilluminati
Magick is very real.

You did not say magick, you said black magic. Which is about as silly as when people talk about demon worship.

Drilluminati

nancyliedersdeaddog

Drilluminati
If you had to chance to be mentored by an illuminati member would you?

I think it would depend on who's going to be the mentor, your definition of the illuminati, and what I would have to do. If I could be mentored by Bush Jr. from Herold and Kumar 2 then heck yeah but let's say it was Al Gore I would have to go with a no, I couldn't stand listening to him brag about creating the internet, carbon foot prints, and the dangers of manbearpig

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you initially do not know who your mentor is.It could be anyone. would you still take that leap of faith?

How can one take a leap of faith and then start to serve Satan, knowing his demise to happen very soon?
I mean, if you are in the known about the illuminati, you clearly know at the top of them of at least at a very high level is Satan. More over, he will be exposed for who he really is and the fallen ones will go back to the lake of fire.


Thruthseek3r

Concerning secret societies, the issue is spiritual. The thing is much evil is going on the unseen when one is working to prevent it from happening, I see some of these issues on a daily basis.

One user in a thread told me as a former practitioner of witchcraft he was and then left because he knew the occult is related to the fallen angels and the devil, that ancient serpent, the struggle is not with the flesh and blood but with the spirits and i think this is the real deal. The real happening with the societies I mentioned is of spiritual matters.

Of course, every men is good inside of him but the mere fact of being into occult and that is from my own experience is opening up one's soul to attacks from the wicked. Many of the sickness and sudden change of emotional mood happens first in the unseen then in this dimension. The ones in the secret societies dealing with the occult result in allowing negative forces coming into our lives in ways we can not even start to think about.

Magic and/or the occult = soul vulnerability and door opening for demonic influences, which demons are just a simple name for fallen angels, but in any way, Satan's demise is to happen soon.

Dear God, might you pardon me for talking of the matters of dimensions which is partly related to the occult, but for the sake of this article it had to be done.



Thruthseek3r

reply to post by thruthseek3r

Who says they would be serving Satan? There's nothing about the Illuminati, the actual group, that suggests the Illuminati were Satan worshipers. Everything you read about them, particularly going to the Bavarian Illuminati is all 2nd hand information; you don't see anything of their own documentation that suggests Satan worship.

If you have actual evidence that the Illuminati does as you say they do, then please present it.

reply to post by thruthseek3r

There is no spiritual issue with Freemasonry.

...but in any way, Satan's demise is to happen soon.

So you're telling us you know when the 2nd Coming of Christ will occur? Huh...I thought that no man knew the mind of God and that He said Christ would come again like a thief in the night.

reply to post by theabsolutetruth


I am gonna take you at your word on this. the way you have been jumped on and ganged up on makes one wonder why? the government has non essentials at home, so they aren't that. no, it actually makes it look like someone is on to something and people of the same group have decided to try and discredit your experiences. that alone should give one pause. especially how the personal character attacks came first but you held your dround. then of course, next is pics, pics, pics. so you give some good articles on the very thing you are talking about. what comes next, oh yeah, haven't seen this before either. try and discredit your sources without them proving why they should be discredited. but instead discredit the sources same way they say you where dishonest or not factual. by their opinion.
if their source is so bad then pics, pics, pics as to why!
no one should have to go it alone.

thruthseek3r

How can one take a leap of faith and then start to serve Satan, knowing his demise to happen very soon?
I mean, if you are in the known about the illuminati, you clearly know at the top of them of at least at a very high level is Satan. More over, he will be exposed for who he really is and the fallen ones will go back to the lake of fire.


Thruthseek3r

i have a question for you. Can you show me where hot ends and cold start>? thus can you show me where good begins and bad ends? you cannot thats all subjective. let me give you a hard to swallow example. You are creator of a new Vaccine that can cure a strain of cold. People are sick but this strain attacks quick and people die fairly quick. The death toll will be 10,000 people roughly. No one knows you have this cure. and undoubtedly if anyone of those sick people knew they would be furious and mad.

You know that if you release the cure there is the possibility of an epidemic. Now we are faced with a tough situation....you only have 2 very real and honestly #ty choices. save 10,000 people and have 100,000's die or let 10,000 die. what do you do? there is no getting out of the decision you must decide right. but your evil for doing so? how evil is it for the guy thats sick and wants the cure to live?

Yes there are evil human beings out there. there are people who maliciously hurt people and rob them. then there are the people like me. i would give my shirt off my back because it dosent matter anyways. i cannot take anything with me. i am going to die. as we all are. but were so caught up with ME ME ME ME. what about US. i agree with you but i also disagree. Not all are evil but the evil will pay 7 fold what they have done. mark my words. i believe the "Evil" hollywood illuminati split away a long time ago. Once you join you can leave whenever. you are never forced to stay. NEVER asked to do anything illegal. but one thing that is 100% they will guard the "secret" at all costs and that includes both sides. it is that valuable

im not trying to beat you up truthseaker i enjoy the conversation. getting the brain to turn those gears is great. To be in a state of mind of continuously questions everything you HEAR SMELL TOUCH TASTE AND SEE. it all needs to be questioned. thats what makes them illuminated. there not in a perpetual state of doing everything there told and do not question.

SATAN is not real....everything has a duality hot to cold, up to down, big to small, male to female, yin to yang, god to satan they were words to explain the things we do....are you being godly or are you being satanly

letscit
reply to post by theabsolutetruth

 

I am gonna take you at your word on this. the way you have been jumped on and ganged up on makes one wonder why? the government has non essentials at home, so they aren't that. no, it actually makes it look like someone is on to something and people of the same group have decided to try and discredit your experiences. that alone should give one pause. especially how the personal character attacks came first but you held your dround. then of course, next is pics, pics, pics. so you give some good articles on the very thing you are talking about. what comes next, oh yeah, haven't seen this before either. try and discredit your sources without them proving why they should be discredited. but instead discredit the sources same way they say you where dishonest or not factual. by their opinion.
if their source is so bad then pics, pics, pics as to why!
no one should have to go it alone.

edit on 06/02/2010 by letscit because: (no reason given)

So If I said 9/11 truthers are trying to control my mind with microwave rays so they can turn me into the antichrist I would be on to something since I'm sure I would get jumped on and made fun of? How is he on to something when he said Masons have done horrible things to him, he posted links that have nothing to do with his personal experience and when asked about details he got all defensive?

The funny thing is the information he gave was silly even to people who are non masons like myself and I will list some of the false info and all this is just from 1 of his links:
Masons worshiping the devil
"high level masons"
Freemasons trying to take over the world
Luciferian worship
Freemasons lie for a brother who has broken the law
Mason judges are supposed to give other Freemasons lighter punishment than other people
Prime ministers and other civil government leaders are supposed to pardon other Mason war criminals
Revolutions, Rebellions, World Wars, and World Organizations are started by Masons
high ranking politicians, police, and military officers are usually Masons
Prisoners of War who are Freemasons are given special treatment by captor Freemasons
Injustices in regard to non Freemasons by Freemasons are commonly overlooked
They are not favorable to non-members who are seen as pawns to be either used (canon fodder) or disposed of at will
BS Info

Btw No one has had a chance discredit his "personal experiences" since he hasn't even told anyone what happened which is fine but he expects people to take his word for it and gets mad when I asked for details. I still can't get over the fact you think the info he gave was good when even the most hardcore anti-masons would find those links bs.

thruthseek3r
Magic and/or the occult = soul vulnerability and door opening for demonic influences, which demons are just a simple name for fallen angels, but in any way, Satan's demise is to happen soon.

Dear God, might you pardon me for talking of the matters of dimensions which is partly related to the occult, but for the sake of this article it had to be done.

Thruthseek3r

Magic and Magick are two different things as stated above! my bad on the type! i am human and i do make mistakes

There is only one thing i must say about the "fallen angels" or demons as you say...what to know the truth about them? THEY ARE IN YOU! but before you normally do magick you invoke something special. ARCHANGELS, so my question to you about that fact. if you can invoke archangels (Raphael, Gabriel, and Michael, Uriel) then what is the problem? Surely god would never allow this to happen. you to borrow his HIGHEST angels. so you are right there is a vulnerability and it is not for someone to be a weekend occultist/magickian. this is somthing you spend time on the education before any attempt is made. its sorta like the warning label on things you shouldn't drink. if you drink it still who's fault is that now?

so truth my question to you is this...do you think god is sitting in the heavens on his throne looking down on the world with his crown and everyone is dancing around in heaven having a merry time ?

This is how it all works.. i will explain them from outter ring in.
1-Zodiac signs(12)
2-Planets (7)
3-Fallen Angels
4-Planets(7)
5-Angels of Shemhamphorash (72)
6-unknown
7-Archangels -(4)

reply to post by letscit


Let's look at some of the other articles done by those same great sources:

Henry Makow's website granted he didn't write the article but it's still on his site and he left comments on the story (be careful because the author uses gay slurs and says only idiots should accept gay people)-Henry Makow

abundanthope.net...- claims to get telepathic predictions about the end of the world. Need I say more

the truther seeker- Really US war with china?,
NWO loves the green stuff

I could go on but you guys get the idea!

reply to post by thruthseek3r


So basically, what you are saying is that anything you don't understand = the devil?

Are you Bobby Boushe's mama or something?

Small minds are the devil. You should be growing horns soon.

reply to post by Drilluminati

Drilluminati

AugustusMasonicus

Drilluminati
1) If you believe there using black magic then you...

...never really stopped playing Dungeons and Dragons.

Magick is very real. And i believe it can be used for both good and evil. If you use it for evil you shall suffer more. Many of our great minds were into rituals and other occult learnings. It is not the magic you speak about of dungeons and dragons. Its the invocation of spirits. These spirits are not outside the body but within the depths of the mind. As a hermetic principal or correspondence states "As above, so below; as below, so above."

The list of the others:
1. The Principle of Mentalism.
2. The Principle of Correspondence.
3. The Principle of Vibration.
4. The Principle of Polarity.
5. The Principle of Rhythm.
6. The Principle of Cause and Effect.
7. The Principle of Gender.
they are more valid any other principles i have any seen!

Am I the only one that sees allegory here? "As above, so below" = literal meaning, hidden meaning. I know "magic"; just cast a "spell" and get "Magick". It is all allegory!!! Decipher the allegory and expose the real nature of these secret societies. It seems so obvious to me that I cannot understand how so many others, who otherwise seem very intelligent, take literal meanings so seriously unless it is their job to promote this literal non-sense.

letscit
reply to post by theabsolutetruth

 

I am gonna take you at your word on this. the way you have been jumped on and ganged up on makes one wonder why?

He hasn't been "ganged up on"; pointing out that a tired, old, discredited canard is still a tired, old, discredited canard is at worst pointing out the obvious. Repetition of a lie doesn't reset the clock on that front.

letscitno, it actually makes it look like someone is on to something and people of the same group have decided to try and discredit your experiences.

a) He hasn't described any "experiences"
and
b) It looks like he is incapable/unwilling to use the search function on ATS to discover the discredited canards

Fitz