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WAR: Next al-Qaeda Attack Now Through Mexico?

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posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 09:44 AM
Sharif al-Masri, an important al-Qaeda figure seized in Pakistan back in August, has told his captors that the notorious terrorist network has been planning to smuggle "nuclear materials" into the US via Mexico. Although his information is yet unconfirmed, it has been circulating in a US government report, and prompted Tom Ridge to meet publicy with Mexican officials.
A key al-Qaeda operative seized in Pakistan recently offered an alarming account of the group's potential plans to target the U.S. with weapons of mass destruction, senior U.S. security officials tell TIME. Sharif al-Masri, an Egyptian who was captured in late August near Pakistan's border with Iran and Afghanistan, has told his interrogators of "al-Qaeda's interest in moving nuclear materials from Europe to either the U.S. or Mexico," according to a report circulating among U.S. government officials.

Masri also said al-Qaeda has considered plans to "smuggle nuclear materials to Mexico, then operatives would carry material into the U.S.," according to the report, parts of which were read to TIME. Masri says his family, seeking refuge from al-Qaeda hunters, is now in Iran.

Masri's account, though unproved, has added to already heightened U.S. concerns about Mexico. Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge met publicly with top Mexican officials last week to discuss border security and smuggling rings that could be used to slip al-Qaeda terrorists into the country. Weeks prior to Ridge's lightning visit, U.S. and Mexican intelligence conferred about reports from several al-Qaeda detainees indicating the potential use of Mexico as a staging area "to acquire end-stage chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear material." U.S. officials have begun to keep a closer eye on heavy-truck traffic across the border. The Mexicans will also focus on flight schools and aviation facilities on their side of the frontier. And another episode has some senior U.S. officials worried: the theft of a crop-duster aircraft south of San Diego, apparently by three men from southern Mexico who assaulted a watchman and then flew off in a southerly direction. Though the theft's connection to terrorism remains unclear, a senior U.S. law-enforcement official notes that crop dusters can be used to disperse toxic substances. The plane, stolen at night two weeks ago, has not been recovered.

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Considering the problems we already have with illegal Mexicans crossing our southern border, this just adds more fuel to the fear fire, and could potentially be very difficult to stop. The sheer expanse of our borders, and known lack of sufficent border patrols makes this a highly possible tactic. I am submitting this in hopes to generate discussion among ATS members of how to possibly help stop or deter this threat.

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posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 11:59 AM
The principle is by no means novel, nor is the US unique in history in basking in such praise from domestic thinkers.

In contrast, the goal offered the public -- protection from "rogue states" -- is not taken very seriously. Unless dedicated to instant collective suicide, no state would launch missiles at the US. And there are far easier and safer means to inflict enormous damage on its territory. "Anyone who doubts that terrorists could smuggle a nuclear warhead into New York City should note that they could always wrap it in a bale of marijuana," one prominent analyst comments sardonically. Another points out that "a nuclear bomb that could easily wipe out Manhattan and kill 100,000 people is a ball of plutonium weighing about 15 pounds. It is a little bigger than a softball. One such bomb could be carried into the United States in a suitcase. And if one could, many could."

Noam Chomsky

OTMs, we don't need no OTMs to do the above. (OTM = Other than Mexicans)

posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 12:05 PM
My cousin has personally seen a large staging area in the desert outside of Tucson with hundreds of discarded black ski masks, gloves, and backpacks. Why would people coming across the border need to wear masks and gloves to disguise their identity until the crossing was complete? Maybe they were not Mexicans.

posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 12:36 PM
I suggest you get your cousin to report that ASAP if he has not done so already. He might just a save an untold number of lives.

posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 12:40 PM
I saw that ski mask and glove story posted here about a month ago but I can't seen to find it now.

Maybe they were smuggling some wares into the US that were Mexican made. I had a black ski mask that was made in Mexico.

What does your cousin do? Is he border patrol?

posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 01:39 PM
Dont ya'll worry. Us old boys in texas will protect ya!
Hell, half the ranchers here shoot at the illeagals coming in, so why not shoot the terrorists while they're at it.

posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 02:54 PM
Mulder, I represent the half of Texans who don't shoot Mexicans.

Quick lesson in small-unit tactics. Al-Khaida uses a strategy of strategic amplification: they identify American strategic assets (like Aviation) then use a tiny signal (15 idiots) to trip a switch (WTC) that cascades economic devastation (downturn in Aviation leads to nationwide economic recession). It was America's response to the WTC attacks that has devastated General Aviation and the domestic economy. If Al-Khaida can attack an American strategic asset (friendship with Mexico) by using a tiny signal (one idiot) and trip a switch (hemispheric isolationism) that cascades economic devastation (general bankruptcies due to economic recession), we should not help them do so. Co-operation with Mexico in matters of International security- with mutual respect- is the key to American domestic security on the Border. Let's shoot the terrorists together, hermano.

[edit on 14-11-2004 by Chakotay]

posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 02:56 PM
If anyone had listened to me a year ago they could have nabbed this one in the bud... Oh well the government doesn't listen untill it's a "terrorist" telling them it's happening. Army intel knew about it along with quite a few other agencys it's not really new news they are just paying attention to it now. Prolly to late.

here it is from last year.

posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 03:12 PM
Nice post post, Chakotay.

Extend mutual respect to others and to other nations. What a concept! Maybe our government will pick up on it before it's too late for us all. Ultimately, the iron fist only leads to the destruction of those who use it while sowing fear, nationalism, racism, religious intolerance, hatred, destruction, and death along the way.

Who said, "If you're not with us, your against us"?

Sorry, dude, but if they're not with us, they're not with us, period! If they disagree, they disagree. If they think we are worng, they have the right to think so. They're only against us if they're against us. Go back to college and retake that course in logic 100 that you skipped while drinking that ole' six pack of Budweiser!

posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 03:43 PM

Originally posted by AgentMulder320
Dont ya'll worry. Us old boys in texas will protect ya!
Hell, half the ranchers here shoot at the illeagals coming in, so why not shoot the terrorists while they're at it.

You're exactly the perfect example of what's wrong with this whole administration,than again Bush is from your area...right !!

the kuk-kluks-clan were your neighbours,right..;
for grying out loud ,,man wake up...this is the 21'st century ..

posted on Nov, 14 2004 @ 06:21 PM
Depending on which side of the propaganda fence one is sitting on, an Al Qaeda attack in the United States can be seen as either retaliation or further "false-flag" justifcation for the Bush administration's brutal War on Terror. Why would an avowed enemy further provoke and give justifcation to the American government's onslaught and aggressive stance towards the Middle East?

Most of the world, the part that is not under the western media propaganda dome, truly sees the arrogance and injustice in this US government's actions. Anti-American sentiment is at an all-time high around the world. Any high level terrorist group would surely take this into account before launching an invasion that would give credence and respectabilty to the reasoning behind the War on Terror. If an enemy is drowning in a pool of water and you want him gone, you don't throw him a life preserver!

I flash back to 2001 and the totally censured media surrounding the massive Israeli spying operations that were going on in the states prior to 9-11-2001. This includes the five dancing Israeli's caught celebrating as the World Trade Centers collapsed. These Israeli spies and operatives were never prosecuted or investigated, just deported back to the sanctuary of their homeland, Israel. Certainly mass media coverage of this would have given people a fairly good idea of WHO SHOULD HAVE KNOWN about the 911 plots, at least, if not being the guiding hidden force behind them. It has been determined that Israeli spies WERE TAILING the alleged 911 plotters right up till 911! Can you spell h-a-n-d-l-e-r-s?

In light of this, it is pretty obvious to me at this point why the 911 investigation was constantly stymied and harrassed by Bush and Cheney, resulting in a coverup panel and a coverup 911 Report, ala the Warren Commission. The more facts that emerge regarding 911 and apparent government collusion, the more risk there will be in pulling off another "false flag" op to anger the American people into supporting US wars of aggression!

posted on Nov, 15 2004 @ 12:39 AM
I think no matter the propaganda the there are terrorist groups out to hurt the US, no amount of policing, striping of rights or scare tactics can change that. Russia is acting awfully nice to us while forming a coalition that doesn't include us, among other things the world is unhappy with the US and behind closed doors I think it would be a good bet that a lot of leaders have contempt for the US and may inadvertently help terrorists as long as it couldn't be traced back to them. The US is hyped on an al-queda threat, perfect scape goat. But to even think this is all hype and there's no real substance is a mistake because although the government is playing the terrorism card to the extent that it is alienating some people there is a real threat. They have been supposedly moving nukes into the US for quite some time now, how many do they need to set off at the same time for the US to be incappisated? How long does it take to move that many here if they do it part by part and have them all set up? Even if they didn't have access to all the materials needed when they started I don't think it would be to hard to fathom a little forethought to move what they had here until they could get access to the rest.

Who are the most proficient people in smuggling contraband into the US? Drug dealers. But again, by the time the US realizes that the people on their "friendly drug dealer" list (the drug cartels that provide the US with intel) are smuggling nukes into the US they'll be a day late and a dollar short.

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