95 per cent of intelligent people know the new IPCC report is utter drivel

This is getting real confusing.

All we keep hearing is one side or the other is right, all by self proclamations.

It seems the facts keep getting rearranged in favor of one side or the other.

We have whole regiments of mad scientist experts arguing with each other.

The only thing in common is the money.

Both sides are well funded.

Both sides make money from the rhetorical diatribes.

What exactly *IS* the problem anyway ?

95 per cent of intelligent people know the new IPCC report is utter drivel


Experts 95 per cent certain 'humans are responsible for global warming'.


Well, of course they are. If there is one overriding prerequisite of every new IPCC Assessment report, it's to sound even more scary and urgent and certain than its predecessor.

Professor Bob Carter noted this progression in his excellent book Climate: the Counter Consensus:

First Assessment Report (1990) – "The observed [twentieth century] temperature increase could be largely due…to natural variability."

Second Assessment Report (1996) – "The balance of the evidence suggests a discernible human influence on climate."

Third Assessment Report (2001) – "There is new and stronger evidence that most of the warming observed over the last fifty years is attributable to human activities."

Fourth Assessment Report (2007) – "Most of the observed increase in globally averaged temperature since the mid-twentieth century is very likely [= 90 per cent probable] due to the observed increase in anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations."


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............ the 2009 UN Copenhagen Climate Change Conference ended in disarray without the formal imposition of international taxation and bureaucracy. Lord Monckton stated of the agenda at Copenhagen: “Once again they are desperately trying to conceal from everybody here the magnitude of what they’re attempting to do – they really are attempting to set up a world government.”

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And where is the data to back up that title statement? It doesn't exist you say?
How shocking.

It's the Sun.

I may be confusing myself but I thought there was speculation that all the planets and moons were experiencing some range of atmospheric changes? Or am I living a dream again?

Anyone who thinks a Subaru has more to do with the climate of this planet than the Star it revolves around, frankly is not worth having a discussion with.

ROFLMAO!

How is it possible for 95% of people - intelligent of otherwise - to know something which none of them have read, and most of them will never read, is drivel?

Just how desperate are the religious fundies to protect their oil billions?

Just how stupid would anyone be to beleive them?

hknudzkknexnt
I may be confusing myself but I thought there was speculation that all the planets and moons were experiencing some range of atmospheric changes? Or am I living a dream again?

Some religiuous fundies have said that on the basis that Pluto might be warming

See also:

www.skepticalscience.com...

Personally, both sides of this debate do their side a disservice by belittling the other side. Debate data, models and theories, ect...... stop bashing each other with trivial name-calling.


And now........ Lets get back to the bashing.

AndyMayhew
ROFLMAO!

How is it possible for 95% of people - intelligent of otherwise - to know something which none of them have read, and most of them will never read, is drivel?

Just how desperate are the religious fundies to protect their oil billions?

Just how stupid would anyone be to beleive them?

95% of the World believe in some sort of a God.

Not all of them are out to protect "oil billions".


Just saying.

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Show us how it's the sun.

Kali74


Show us how it's the sun.

While we are at it, disprove that its the Sun.

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That's already been done.

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I would love to see the detailed record our ancestors from the past kept on Climate change. Not from scientists of today that have an "agenda".






Look, man has screwed up the World, make no mistake. No one can tell me Mother Earth or our Sun isn't the biggest proponent of Climate Change though. Man is but a ant on this planet.

Regardless of what you believe about Global Warming, do people honestly think it is a good idea to continue to pump harmful pollutants into our environment? So we may or may not be doing long-term damage to our planet through carbon emissions. We ARE however doing long-term damage to everything else.

Do people think that things like perpetual clouds of smog covering many major cities, industrial waste being dumped into many different water sources, trash dumped into similar places, deforestation, pesticides being washed into streams and rivers, and many more atrocities against nature that humanity commits are good things to live with?

Damn I hate this discussion. Just because the irrepairable part of long-term damage to the environment is still out for debate doesn't mean we aren't screwing things up. To believe otherwise is dishonest and shows great ignorance. We most definitely need to change our wasteful ways.

Krazysh0t


Damn I hate this discussion. Just because the irrepairable part of long-term damage to the environment is still out for debate doesn't mean we aren't screwing things up. To believe otherwise is dishonest and shows great ignorance. We most definitely need to change our wasteful ways.

Agree.

My problem is those that want this change, have ulterior motives. Those in charge, those in power.

They are willing to fudge data to make themselves the victors in this war. Meanwhile its the common folk the rest of us humans that suffer. The intellectually dishonesty of some scientists out there is alarming.

Kali74
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Show us how it's the sun.

I think the hottest tracts of land affected are the heavily trodden pathways to and from the bank deposit windows.

Those paths have the most carbon footprints of all.

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Good points.

But how do these things stop abruptly without killing millions of people ?

Who enforces the wishes of the educated ?

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Seriously, how much money will change hands from those who are willing to push ANY agenda that has "climate change" attached to it?

How much money will be made with Carbon Credits?

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That is pathetic.