Why there is still a vaccine/autism controversy? This is an important video for those with children

The Canary Party presents a video narrated by actor Rob Schneider on the corrupt Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. It shows how the federal government and pharmaceutical companies continue to get away with claiming that vaccines don't cause autism in the face of mounting evidence that the vaccines are doing just that....In the last 30 years in America the rate of Autism has gone from 1 in 10,000 to one in 50 while the vaccination schedule has tippled ...If true that is appalling in itself.....The excuse used for the blooming autism rate is usually blamed on better reporting and diagnosis.

Growing up I never met an autistic child or knew of someone who had one; yep I am old.
Today, I can think of three couples who are facing and trying to care for children who will need assistance for the rest of their lives...

Anyway if you are interested watch the short well done video and make up your own mind...If the 1/50 verses the 1/10,000 numbers are correct then we have a much bigger problem than most realize or is being reported.

With "make up your own mind" you do mean that I have to follow your opinion, right?

Because otherwise, I would be a bad vaccinist, which you would despise, amiright?

No, seriously, the connection between autism and vaccinism is a hoax, confuted a long time ago.

I seem to recall a number of years back, talk of a primate study. The largest and longest running of it's kind, as I recall reading. 10 or more years, I believe. It was supposed to be the definitive answer to cause/effect on vaccination to mental development issues. I hate to say, I've lost track of what happened with it and can't find reference back now to see how it turned out? It was many years ago I'd read about it in USA Today.

Anyone else recall that or what came of it? I do recall having the impression they meant to answer it with that effort...but then? Well?

reply to post by ManFromEurope


And your proof is?

I am not against vaccines necessarily...Can you explain by your obvious vast knowledge/opinion how we go from 1/10/000 to 1/50 reported cases over the last 30 years...If you are a Doctor or in the medical field I salute you for you schooling; and believing in what you are doing...Doctors used to let blood (bleed) someone until proven wrong... By your response I doubt you watched the video because it is not all about the autism but how Farma and government are in bed to block any meaningful court cases..

So like the opening post said....Watch the video and make your own mind up...

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Hey Wrabbit thanks for the reply....The way the system is apparently rigged for big farma and government as per the video it is very hard to get a ruling in a court of law...If we can not get a ruling then people can moan all they want but unless you can hurt them monetarily and make them prove their vaccines are indeed safe via control groups kids are just pin cushion lab rats; or so it would seem.

I have M.E., which started when I was already over 40 but had a very long onset. Someone said that they never knew people with Autism when they were younger. The same applies for M.E. Having done extensive research on possible causes, I came across a paper outlining that M.E may be a different version of the polio virus, which had never existed before vaccination. They made a very good point in linking polio vaccine to M.E.

So it is not only Autism that could be caused by injecting babies with 'safe' versions of devastating diseases but probably a whole lot more.

In principle, vaccinations seem at first very helpful, but TBH we really don't know about all the variables and possible problems until we encounter them and I think we are now seeing some downsides to this actually very crude practice.

reply to post by Hecate666


Polio-Virus didn't exist before vaccination? How.. Why... What?

How did those people get polio back then?

727Sky
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And your proof is?

I will not quote so many, many sources for this. If you didn't read them before, you won't read them now, so I would waste time. Google it for yourself, as you please. I doubt that you will do so.

I am not against vaccines necessarily...Can you explain by your obvious vast knowledge/opinion how we go from 1/10/000 to 1/50 reported cases over the last 30 years...

I don't know. You don't know. Nobody, literally nobody knows for sure. But there is no correlation between vaccinations and autism. Claiming otherwise, you are guilty of childs getting potentially crippling or even lethal illnesses.

If you are a Doctor or in the medical field I salute you for you schooling; and believing in what you are doing...Doctors used to let blood (bleed) someone until proven wrong...

Yes and nowadays this is known to be wrong, because it was tested (double-blind-tests, the best testing-setup we have) and found to be wrong. There are no known positive-tests concluding that autism is provoked by vaccines. Bring up a double-blind-test, complete with a methological study, and you might get famous.
But you would fail to do so. There are no known correlations. Andrew Wakefield was oh-so-wrong, caused many childs to have those illnesses which might have left them crippled or even dead. Look it up, for gods sake! It is proven that he was intentionally WRONG.

By your response I doubt you watched the video because it is not all about the autism but how Farma and government are in bed to block any meaningful court cases..

So like the opening post said....Watch the video and make your own mind up...

Yes, thank you, I have a mind of my own. You just want me to follow someone, which is not the same as an "own mind".

It is quite concerning to see that payouts have been made for autism induced by vaccinations. With Alzheimer's and dementia rates also on the rise it is a worrying situation, very stressful for those directly involved. Mental conditions are very complex with massive costs in the community.

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Why don't I see such an effort about the radiation from Fukushima? Or the Gulf oil spill? Or the rising mercury levels of our seafood (hint.....there's more mercury in that can of tuna than you'll ever get in all the shots combined)? Or the pollution in the air?

Nope.....has to be vaccinations.

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Well here is a case that finally got to court....they WON and according to the Doctor there are 1000s of cases inline to be heard.

727Sky
reply to post by ManFromEurope

 

And your proof is?

I am not against vaccines necessarily...Can you explain by your obvious vast knowledge/opinion how we go from 1/10/000 to 1/50 reported cases over the last 30 years...If you are a Doctor or in the medical field I salute you for you schooling; and believing in what you are doing...Doctors used to let blood (bleed) someone until proven wrong... By your response I doubt you watched the video because it is not all about the autism but how Farma and government are in bed to block any meaningful court cases..

So like the opening post said....Watch the video and make your own mind up...

Oh yeah, because nothing other than vaccination frequency has changed in 30 years. Correlation does not equal causation, find some conclusive evidence.

ManFromEurope
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Polio-Virus didn't exist before vaccination? How.. Why... What?

How did those people get polio back then?

I didn't even say that. This is what I said:

different version of the polio virus, which had never existed before vaccination.

Why not read before writing?

reply to post by ManFromEurope


Congress seemed to be catching on to the problem as the questions seem to be more than the answers from the CDC. So I guess it is not just me who questions the multiple drugs given to young babies and the consequences thereof.

reply to post by 727Sky


Schooling means they are trained to spout the wonders of more and more pharmaceuticals.

This is not just vaccines, but all drugs. Embracing any natural remedy makes you an insane conspiracy theorist.
Most medical school professors own huge pharm stocks, especially ivy league school profs.
So how do you think they train new MDs? To push as many drugs as possible.
Nothing is common sense anymore. There are dozens of new and ridiculous syndromes, all of which need some drug...... Right?

One drug has these side affects, so they then give you this drug to counter act that drugs side affect. Then drug number 2 has two side affects that need this drug and that drug.
You needed a fix for one thing, and now you're on five medications.

Same for vaccines. They all know the truth about them, but children's vaccination schedules grow and grow.
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(NaturalNews) Prepare to be shocked. Here are 10 outrageous (but true) facts about vaccines the CDC and the vaccine industry don't want you to know:

FACT #1) Yes, mercury is still used in vaccines, and the CDC openly admits it. There is NO safe level of mercury for injecting into a human child. Not even "trace" levels. There is NO evidence of safety for mercury at any dose whatsoever. Any doctor who says the level of mercury in a vaccine is "safe" to inject into a child is only demonstrating their outrageous ignorance of scientific facts.Mercury is arguably the most neurotoxic element on the entire Table of Elements. It is used in vaccines for the convenience of the vaccine manufacturer at the expense of the safety of the child. Any doctor who injects mercury into a child -- at any dose! -- should be immediately stripped of their medical license.See the list of studies on the neurotoxicity of mercury at SCIENCE.naturalnews.com, now the largest relational research resource for chemicals, health, nutrients and drugs:
science.naturalnews.com... study titles include:Lactational exposure to inorganic mercury: evidence of Neurotoxic effects.Neurotoxic action of inorganic Mercury injected in the intraventricular space of mouse cerebrum.Neurotoxic effects in workers of the clinical thermometer manufacture plant.Neurotoxic risk caused by stable and variable exposure to methylmercury from seafood.Additional FACT: There is no "safe" form of mercury as is often ridiculously claimed by vaccine pushers. Both ethyl and methyl mercury are extremely toxic to the human nervous system. Neither should ever, under ANY circumstances, be deliberately injected into a human child at any dose whatsoever.
FACT #2) Injecting any substance into the human body makes it orders of magnitude more potentially toxic because it bypasses the protections of the digestive tract or the respiratory system. Injecting mercury into a human being -- at any dose -- should be globally condemned as a criminal act. That it is currently considered an acceptable act in the field of medicine only condemns the true destructive nature of modern medicine. Under the vaccine doctrine, "First do no harm" has become "Poison children for profit."
FACT #3) For decades, polio vaccines injected into tens of millions of people actually contained hidden cancer viruses (SV40 and others). This was openly admitted by a top Merck vaccine scientist named Hilleman. The CDC recently scrubbed its website of this information in a "revisionist history" purge. Up to 98 million Americans were exposed to hidden cancer viruses in polio vaccines. This is an historical fact. Read more at www.sv40foundation.org
FACT #4) Top virologists working for Merck have blown the whistle and gone public with shocking revelations that claim the company routinely fabricated lab results to claim a 95% efficacy rate of its mumps vaccine in order to continue receiving government contracts on a vaccine that didn't work.See the False Claims document these scientists filed with the U.S. government here:
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FACT #5) In nearly every outbreak you hear about these days, the majority of the children affected by the outbreak have already been vaccinated against the virus! For example, outbreaks of whooping cough routinely involve children who have already been vaccinated against whooping cough. This is yet more proof that vaccines do not confer immunity.
FACT #6) The claimed history of vaccine "successes" against polio and other diseases is a pure fabrication. This is discussed and exposed in great detail in the powerful new book, "Dissolving Illusions" by Dr. Suzanne Humphries. Click here to see the book at Amazon.com, or click here to visit the website (and view the charts).
FACT #7) The vaccine industry refuses to conduct scientific tests on the health outcomes of vaccinated children vs. unvaccinated children. Why? Because these test would no doubt show unvaccinated children to be healthier, smarter and far better off than vaccinated children in terms of behavioral disorders, allergies and even autoimmune disorders. Check the people you know: Don't you routinely find that the most heavily-vaccinated kids are the ones who get sick all the time? Meanwhile, groups like the Amish who largely refuse to vaccinate their children have near-zero rates of autism.
FACT #8) The U.S. Supreme Court has already declared that the secret "vaccine court" is a higher power than the Supreme Court. The so-called "vaccine court" is granted extraordinary powers to operate utterly outside the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and completely outside the rules of due process and law.The court itself -- which isn't even a court of law -- is a violation of law and a violation of basic human rights. It must be abolished like Apartheid.
FACT #9) The mainstream media receives a significant portion of its revenues from the very same drug companies selling vaccines. This financial influence results in the media refusing to cover stories aboutvaccine-damaged children for fear of losing advertising revenues.This is why the mainstream media frequently features guests and authors who ridiculously claim that all the vaccine damaged children across America do not exist or are "mere delusions" of their parents. These despicable vaccine apologists are intellectual bullies who, like Hitler's minions, relish in aiding and abetting a real-life holocaust that's harming millions of children around the globe.
FACT #10) The CDC openly admits that vaccines contain additives which are known to be potent neutoxic chemicals. Those additives include:• Mercury (still used as a preservative)• Aluminum (used as an inflammatory adjuvant)• Formaldehyde (used to "deactivate" live viruses)• MSG / Monosodium Glutamate (used to caused immune system inflammation)All of these substances are toxic to human biology when injected. All of them are still listed on the CDC website as vaccine additives. There is no rational doctor or scientist in the world who can say they believe injecting infants and children with mercury, formaldehyde, MSG and aluminum is somehow "safe," yet doctors inject children with these substances every single day in the form of vaccines.Doctors who inject children with vaccines are delusional. They are practicing a medical holocaust against humanity while fraudulently calling it "immunization." For the record, vaccination does not equal immunization. Learn more: 
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HandyDandy
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Why don't I see such an effort about the radiation from Fukushima? Or the Gulf oil spill? Or the rising mercury levels of our seafood (hint.....there's more mercury in that can of tuna than you'll ever get in all the shots combined)? Or the pollution in the air?

Nope.....has to be vaccinations.

Yep That has got to be it.. All those 6 month old babies got their autism from, Fukushimaed parents, Gulf oil spill survivors.... But wait... then why do we have so many older children than any of those events you listed??

Oh mom and dad were feeding their 6 month old Fukushimaed mercury tuna straight out of the glow in the dark tuna can because there was a time anomaly that infected or allowed them to poison their children ?

I would think most people who can read or have an I.Q. above 95 are aware of the mercury in Tuna...If not then that is their problem... Whereby if the vaccines are indeed causing this and a child can not even get into school without them...then it is a waste and a problem for all of us in this society, no? You may be to young to remember what thalidomide (which was an approved drug) did to pregnant mothers babies....just one case of faith in a drug that is now outlawed.....There are many other stories if one wants to look...

So by your post how does any of that explain the 14 year old who was by all accounts perfectly normal at 6 months until they received their shots....Yes gotta be something in the air.....Not.

reply to post by 727Sky

And they regularly cite a single highly questioned study as the source for 'proof' that there is no connection even though the preponderance of evidence suggests the opposite.

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Thank you for adding more content to the thread; I would flag you instead of the little star ATS allows me to do...

There will be those who will come by a do a drive by posting deriding the content because they have no other rebuttal...attack the messenger instead of proving the message is wrong etc etc...

It is very hard to believe the explosive numbers of Autism in the U.S. and what kind of society we will have in just a few years?