Newborn Baby Seized by Hospital and Police Because Mother Questioned Vaccine

moonweed
ok......enough about oxytocin...why can't anyone spell oxycotin the right way??

I'm sure glad someone corrected this.
I was about to get irritated LOL

crankyoldman
This is actually a legal mistake.

The State does not own the child until the birth certificate is complete. Until that time, the State, or the hospital as its advocate, has no authority over the child.

Once the birth certificate is finalized, the State has full authority over the child - that is the law. Then the State can do what is in the best interest of the State's new asset.

There is grounds for a lawsuit on that matter, the only problem is, the State has no authority to take the case, as the case does not involve its property, so a judge will most likely throw the case out.

I do find it interesting that folks are so mind controlled by the medical system, and the State, that they will support the taking of a child from the parents to give it a shot preventing a sexually transmitted disease moments after it is born.

Think about that, folks are so terrified, so mind controlled that the actually think is is a GREAT idea to steal a child moments after it is born to inject it. Folks in this thread are so stupefyingly mind controlled that simply waiting until things settle out and calm is in order is TOO LATE! More to the point, these folks simply asking what is in that injection is grounds for imprisonment and folks replying in this thread agree with that one hundred percent - do not question the State, Medicine or Science - ever! Orwell smiles.

I guess the world has change, when I was born ,people with Hep were not shagging kids so early, they were at least waiting a while.

wow did you read a different propaganda piece then the rest of us?

the reason doctors give the hep b vaccine to newborns is because the MOTHER CAN GIVE IT TO THE BABY.
if the mother has it they can give it to the baby if the baby gets a scratch and the mother has broken skin. by the way you don't have to see the broken skin to have broken skin, scratching yourself and then touching a child with a scratch can be enough.
mothers with the virus have a 30%-90% infection rate, and the vaccine has reduced the illness to less than 10%.

who is "stealing" anything? it's a shot to prevent an easily preventable illness, which if the mother has it, will give to the child very quickly after birth. i doubt this thing is even real but if it is, she was an idiot. vaccines aren't for people with an illness already they are given to keep from getting it in the first place. why would you need to be tested for hep b? that makes no sense.

don't be an idiot, no one is having sex with children to give it to them, it's spread through regular skin contact and its pretty easy to spread if not taken care of within a small window of time.

you can whine and moan about "brainwashing" all you like, but all you have proven is how stupefyingly ignorant of hep b and reality you are. go learn about the topic before making up stupid BS.

reply to post by UnifiedSerenity


ok so the baby was delivered, and she freaked out, and the professionals were doing what they would have if the baby was born in a hospital like it should have been.

Witness2008
reply to post by Phage

 

Wow. With all the alleged abuse perpetrated against these young parents and their new born....all you can throw at it is a snide remark concerning something utterly irrelevant in the op.

It seems the hospital and it's government sanctioned pit bull attack was found to be wrong....return of the infant to it's parents, Thank God.

They got them back after the kid was vaccinated anyway, i'm guessing.

reply to post by SixX18


First of all, vaccines do not last your lifetime and the scientists admit you need to get boosters. The only reason to be concerned about HepB is if the mother is a carrier. The child is not going to be engaging in sexual activities for many years one would presume. There is no reason to compromise it's immune system with this vaccine if the mother is not a carrier, and that is why she asked to be tested. It is not an emergency where they need to take immediate action of this shot. It is within the mother's right to refuse this treatment and what they did was abusive.

Hepatitis B Vaccine Discontinued After Three Newborn Babies Die

Families of three babies who died shortly after receiving their routine hepatitis B vaccine are mourning the loss of their children. The babies, vaccinated in Vietnam under the country’s National Expanded Program on Immunization, died on July 20 in the central province of Quang Tri, according to the report. [1]

What Do You Know About Hepatitis B?

Have you ever asked your child’s doctor about this disease? Do you know any children who have contracted hepatitis B? Are hepatitis B horror stories ever shared among parents at playgroup after everyone has talked about their child’s sleeping-through-the-night issues?

You probably don’t know any children who have contracted hepatitis B, because this is a grown-up disease, yet newborns are routinely vaccinated against it at birth.

Hepatitis B is a viral infection affecting the liver, and it is only transmitted through direct contact with infected blood or other body fluids. Those at highest risk for contracting hepatitis B are adults between the ages of 20 and 50 who fall into high-risk categories, including men who have sex with men, individuals who have received infected blood through a transfusion, heterosexuals with multiple partners, and healthcare workers who have come into contact with infected blood or body fluids. [3]

n 2010, there were only 3,374 acute cases of hepatitis B reported in the United States. According to the National Vaccine Information Center’s (NVIC) website, as of March 2012, disturbingly there were over 1500 hepatitis B vaccine-related deaths reported to the federal Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS), some of those classified also as sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS). In addition to a high number of deaths, there were a total of 66,654 adverse events reported to VAERS, including but not limited to brain inflammation, convulsions, multiple sclerosis, headaches, irritabililty, lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, and Guiilain-Barre Syndrome.

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reply to post by Phage


Sorry you hate lawyers but what are you adding to this discussion other than thinking you are witty by putting down a profession you obviously have only done enough studying about to prove your point in your own mind? Just like all the idiots who blame lawyers for the McDonalds hot coffee issue. The lady almost DIED from her burns but ya know, it's not a good journalism to state the whole story. Not all lawyers are bad, just like not all "know it alls" who write on a fringe internet site are bad.

reply to post by UnifiedSerenity


I seriously doubt the validity of the story given that it's a naked plea for money.

The story was originally posted elsewhere in March 2012 (follow the author's link)

Hershey Medical Center is not connected to the government. It is connected to a medical school. Yes, there is a difference.

It says the baby was "a bit early." What exactly does that mean? Exactly HOW MUCH early? A week early? The midwife is not putting her in an ambulance at a week early. I bet it was a LOT early. There are lots of complications that can arise from being early, despite a good apgar score. Futher, it doesn't list the baby's size. More red flags. Requiring the baby stay longer? Again more signs that the baby did have health issues.

If the woman has given birth before as indicted by the mention of older children, then she would KNOW what the shot was and what it was for, even if she used a midwife previously. In Pa., midwives can use oxytocin.

In Penn, midwives are required to work under the direction of a physician. Perhaps they were using an unlicensed, illegal midwife.

Where is the husband in all this? All this is going on and he left the hospital anyway? That doesn't make sense.

Escorted her out the same day? Not hardly. THAT would have been a risk management issue.

And more than a year since the lawsuit was filed and not a word about the resolution?

Yeah, too many red flags to be believable.

reply to post by RealWoman


If the baby is a bit early as you say, then wouldn't you want to not compromise it's immune system further? How many times do we read stories of people injured for getting vaccines when they just got over an illness? Your points make no sense given you are talking about how early the baby was or was not.

As for the stories truth, well, that could be in question for a lot of stories, ever hear of CNN faking news? If the story is true which I am not doubting at this time, then everything in it should shock us, but you want to think it's just fine to disregard a mother's concerns over what they are doing to her let alone her child.

Adding this:

Further more, why is asking for donations to fight the medical establishment mean it's a suspect story? I say, it's allowing people to help others when they see a miscarriage of justice. There are plenty of pleas for support on many issues, and should we negate all causes because they ask for money? I bet you have supported things in your life by donating to them, does that make you a fool?

UnifiedSerenity
reply to post by RealWoman

 

If the baby is a bit early as you say, then wouldn't you want to not compromise it's immune system further? How many times do we read stories of people injured for getting vaccines when they just got over an illness? Your points make no sense given you are talking about how early the baby was or was not.

As for the stories truth, well, that could be in question for a lot of stories, ever hear of CNN faking news? If the story is true which I am not doubting at this time, then everything in it should shock us, but you want to think it's just fine to disregard a mother's concerns over what they are doing to her let alone her child.

Adding this:

Further more, why is asking for donations to fight the medical establishment mean it's a suspect story? I say, it's allowing people to help others when they see a miscarriage of justice. There are plenty of pleas for support on many issues, and should we negate all causes because they ask for money? I bet you have supported things in your life by donating to them, does that make you a fool?

edit on 11-9-2013 by UnifiedSerenity because: (no reason given)

We have no idea what the real issue is. But I doubt is has anything to do with vaccines. CNN is not relevant as I've never seen CNN mooch money at the end of a story. I think there is substantially more to the story than presented here. Frankly it's too one sided and has too many holes and inconsistencies to be believed. And no, I do not donate to strangers begging for money on the internet.

But the BIG red flag you close to ignore is why is there no update to this story online? It's been over a year.

reply to post by UnifiedSerenity


Pathetic. Power tripping people and, I've found this in the areas of government that I've been involved in, a complete lack of communication. Where's the communication...the caring...the doing what's in the best interest of the baby and the parents. Crazy.

reply to post by lotjx


While I certainly agree that there is no "agenda" to poison anyone or inject metal into them for mind control, etc., you must remember that is the talk of the most extreme viewpoints. There is the quite legitimate concern by many parents and many people that vaccines can do a lot of harm to one's health in the long term, and sometimes in the short term. We know people have had bad reactions from vaccines, this is a fact. Therefore, I don't see it against logic for anyone to question them, not necessarily assuming that they're perfectly wonderful and perfectly harmless.

Bad news all the way... It's like our lives doesn't belong to us anymore (or it is illegal to take your life to your hands)
we haven't got the right to chose what will be injected to our body.
and we are never asked and can't do anything about the air we breath,
the food we eat, and the water we drink.
The Shepherds chose those thing for us...

Stories like this make me want to have a home-delivery more and more when my wife and I have children. Her parents did the home delivery thing and it worked out just fine and there were pre-existing complications which ended well.

I don't want my future son to be mutilated like I was. I mean, circumcision should not be mandatory right after birth. We don't want the doctors to take away the baby as they usually do. We don't want them to inject babies and anyone else with anything right away. I really hate the fact that injections are required BY LAW now, even though that most of these vaccinations are about diseases from third world countries that are supposed to be brought in since they normally don't exist in the US so the threat is barely even there.

I'm fine with certain vaccinations, some are necessary. However, randomly injecting anyone with vaccines is stupid beyond belief especially so quick after birth. Now that we're switching over to Obamacare, it won't be long before your visits to the hospital gets denied unless you get the flu shot, which I absolutely refuse to get. Every time I get it, I get sick for two-weeks. I'm not the only one either and I don't trust a yearly vaccine that is created by a for-profit corporation with an educated guess on what might be the hot flu that year.

Don't get me wrong, I want my future kids to be vaccinated and protected from many irreversible viruses but I don't like the concept of vaccines or anything else that is medical to be required by law. If it comes to it, we'll do home birth, and there's absolutely nothing the government can do about it.

Nurses, doctors, orderlies, and the whole medical profession is far too vague, uncommunicative, and unresponsive to lay (read: normal, non-medical term) questions.

In our country, you cannot get a straight reply to why, or what is going on in the hospital at all. They treat you like you cannot understand medical jargon so ignore the general populace's inquiries.

I'm lucky I was born in the forest , the mother was 7 kilometers on foot from the village to the train station to give birth in the Permian and luckily did not have time. ghouls did not get placenta blood , I was not pumped full of poisons on the first day of life. but later they stung "from" smallpox and hepatitis

Lucky baby .She owns a hospital from birth.....

Happy1
reply to post by Phage

 

Why would you give a woman who just delivered a baby oxytocin? You might want to start there.

I have been a registered nurse for 30 years - you do not give a patient a shot of anything without telling them what it is - unless they are unconscious.

exactly. But Phage knows everything about this topic...Just like he knows everything about everything else

its not like his pedanticism was taking people away from the bigger picture or anything

this story is horrible and I hope if me and my partner ever have kids nothing like this happens. My stubbornness always makes difficult situations worse :/

reply to post by LittleBlackEagle


if this is the case why do we have all crazy types of new diseases and cancers floating about???

its very interesting this i have been made to get my child his vaccinations and people claim its ok they have been proven fine . short of going into a lab and testing them myself i have no reason to believe they are safe, we get fed so much garbage by our government and we are supposed to believe its true they are safe coz the guys who made them say so? people are questioning the substance of the story but not what apparent injections thrust upon us by laws safety . baa baa black sheep are you been programmed much??

I think the social worker should be fired. I also think that the government should step in and require the people in the hospital who initiated this event to have psychological testing before being allowed to go back to work. You need to get a psychologist that is not connected with that hospital to do the testing.

Never happen, even though the perception of the staff was flawed, no psychologist will challenge another in their field. Something is wrong in the medical industry all through this country. Some of the doctors and workers have let the power they perceive they have go to their head.

This is not about vaccines, it is about a person's rights to challenge the medical authority. I just got a dtap shot, the doctor knew I had epilepsy but still gave it. I should have been given the dt shot instead. I wasn't aware of the difference because I had not previously read about the shot. I was wondering how come my TLE was so hard to control for a couple of weeks and my head was a little messed up. The doctor should have known not to give me this shot.