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Did the CIA provide Syrian rebels with chemical weapons?

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posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 09:57 PM
This is just a theory of mine but it ties everything together with the Bengazi mystery. I strongly suspect that the CIA was involved in moving arms from Libya to the Syrian rebels. What a lot of people don't realize is that Quaddafi's regime was also suspected of having chemical weapons. What if, by accident, some of the the chem munitions got sent to the rebels along with everything else?

I imagine the state department would panic upon discovery of this, and then send a top-secret delegation to Libya in order to contain the situation. But if A-Queda was expecting chemical weapons and then suddenly found out they weren't getting any, isn't it reasonable to assume they would attack the delegation? Maybe even assassinate the Libyan ambassador?

posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 10:01 PM
reply to post by Flatwoods

Astute OP, IMHO.

Having said that, who is to say they were not sold to them, and then used on signal, for the right climate to exist, for certain events to then take place. This is the way I see it. And yes, I DO think in that scenario, we would have been the ones to sell them those munitions, and perhaps, even told them to use them: cite the pics of Kerry and his wife on a double date with Assad and his, I believe, British wife.....

posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 10:07 PM
I read that fluoride is the chemical used. Actually 2 kinds of fluoride and it was let to be taken there

posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 10:18 PM
reply to post by Flatwoods

Heres an article I don't know about that touches on that. I do know that McCain was in Syria less than 3 months prior to the latest gas attack. Connect up them dots.

McCain in Syria

posted on Sep, 8 2013 @ 01:21 AM
Published October 30, 2011

Libya's interim prime minister has confirmed the presence of chemical weapons in Libya and says foreign inspectors would arrive later this week to deal with the issue.

Prime Minister Mahmoud Jibril said Sunday that Libya has no interest in keeping such weapons.

Last week, Ian Martin, the top U.N. envoy to Libya, told the U.N. Security Council that undeclared chemical weapons sites have been located in Libya.

Libya's Prime Minister Confirms Presence of Chemical Weapons

Now tie that in with this:

Dec 10, 2012

Shortly after the October 2011 death of Qaddafi, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton announced in Tripoli that the U.S. was committing $40 million to help Libya “secure and recover its weapons stockpiles.”

Department of State Assistant Secretary Andrew Shapiro confirms DOS had a weapons buy-back program in Libya that was also supported by the UK who gave $1.5 million, the Netherlands gave $1.2 million, Germany gave about $1 million and our neighbor to the north, Canada gave $1.6 million

to purchase the deadly arsenal that went missing after the fall of Qaddafi.

The State Department was specifically looking to acquire the 20,000 MANPADS (they are commonly known as man-portable air shoulder-fire missiles) that went missing once Qaddafi was killed.

Did CIA and State Department Run Illegal Arms Trafficking in Benghazi?

OOps !!!

They expect us to forget so easy ?

posted on Sep, 8 2013 @ 06:19 AM
reply to post by Flatwoods

how about : "the Syrian rebels supplied themselves " by the same methods they acquired all their other Syrian issue military equipment

posted on Sep, 8 2013 @ 03:20 PM
reply to post by ignorant_ape

The rabbit video clearly shows bottles of chemicals labeled Tekkim ( a Turkish chemical company ) in the background. That means that Turkey (NATO) is involved somewhere.

:05 seconds into here.

posted on Sep, 9 2013 @ 12:34 AM
Back to my original point: if Quaddafi's chemical weapons accidentally made their way to the rebels by way of the CIA and Bengazi, I believe our government would do anything to cover this up. They'd also need to get the chem weapons back, and invading Syria would facilitate this. Especially with rebels firing the chem weapons on civilians in an attempt to blame it on Assad. Al Queda is very manipulative - they are not above doing this.

posted on Sep, 9 2013 @ 12:40 AM
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yea well what about 6 years of UK chemical sales to Syria from the in full

UK delivered Syria chemicals needed for sarin production ‘for 6 years’
Published time: September 08, 2013 12:03
Edited time: September 09, 2013 05:33
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British companies sold sodium fluoride, a key ingredient in the manufacture of the deadly nerve gas sarin, to a Syrian firm from 2004-2010, British media reveal, a sale that has been called ‘disturbing’ following the chemical weapons attack in Damascus.

Between July 2004 and May 2010, the British government issued five export licenses to two companies, allowing them to sell Syria sodium fluoride, necessary for the production of sarin, according to a report in the Daily Mail, a British daily.

Sarin, a nerve gas that is hundreds of times deadlier than cyanide, is considered one of the world’s most dangerous chemical warfare agents. It works on the nervous system, over-stimulating muscles and vital organs, and a single drop can be lethal in minutes. The US, France and Germany say the deadly chemical was used in the attacks of August 21 in the Damascus neighborhood of Ghouta that left hundreds of civilians dead or injured.

The Sunday Mail says UK firms did export sodium fluoride to a Syrian cosmetics firm throughout the six years for what they claim were legitimate purposes. The daily quotes British MPs admitting for the first time that the chemical was delivered to Syria which has been condemned as a ‘grossly irresponsible’ move and a clear violation of international protocol on the trade of dangerous substances.

British MPs signaled their extreme displeasure with the shocking revelations.

"These are very disturbing revelations uncovered by The Mail on Sunday regarding the provision of sodium fluoride to Syria. At no time should we have allowed President Assad’s regime to get its hands on this substance,” Thomas Docherty MP, a member of the Commons Arms Export Controls Committee, said on Saturday.

“Previously we thought that while export licenses had been granted, no chemicals were actually delivered. Now we know that in the build-up to the Syrian civil war, UK companies – with the backing of our Government – were supplying this potentially lethal substance,” he added.

Syrian activists inspect the bodies of people they say were killed by nerve gas in the Ghouta region, in the Duma neighbourhood of Damascus August 21, 2013 (Reuters / Bassam Khabieh)

Syrian activists inspect the bodies of people they say were killed by nerve gas in the Ghouta region, in the Duma neighbourhood of Damascus August 21, 2013 (Reuters / Bassam Khabieh)

While the last export license was issued in May 2010, the licenses are obtained prior to manufacture and the industry standard requires four to five months before the chemicals are delivered.

"We are looking at late 2010 for the British supplies of sodium fluoride reaching Syria,” Docherty said.

The Government has some very serious questions to answer, he concluded.

However, a spokesman for the Department of Business, Innovation and Skills (BIS) defended the sale of the chemical to Syria, saying the amount was “commensurate with the stated end use in the production of cosmetics and there was no reason to link them with Syria’s chemical weapons program. This remains the case.”

The BIS refused to release the names of the two UK exporters for reasons of commercial confidentiality.

This comes on top of another sarin-related scandal as earlier British officials were found to have granted export licenses for sodium fluoride and potassium fluoride exports to Syria on the eve of the Syrian civil conflict breakout. The January 2012 licenses were given in the knowledge that both substances “could also be used as precursor chemicals in the manufacture of chemical weapons,” according to a report published by the House of Commons Committee on Arms Export Controls.

Angus Robertson, a Scottish National Party MP, told RT that the matter was raised in the House of Commons last week following the House of Commons ruling not to participate in military action against the Syrian government.

“Defense ministers had to explain why it was that the UK would even consider granting an export license,” he said, adding that it was "impossible to tell" whether rebels could have got hold of the chemicals once they had passed into the country.

A Syrian army tank maneuvers in the Eastern Ghouta area on the northeastern outskirts of Damascus on August 30, 2013. (AFP Photo / Sam SKaine)

A Syrian army tank maneuvers in the Eastern Ghouta area on the northeastern outskirts of Damascus on August 30, 2013. (AFP Photo / Sam SKaine)

“I’m still concerned, however, as the chemical licenses were issued at a time when the situation in Syria had already deteriorated,” Robertson added.

Meanwhile, in the US, members of Congress are debating whether to give President Barack Obama the green light for a military strike on the Syrian government of President Bashar Assad, who the White House holds responsible for last month’s deadly chemical weapons attack.

The US leader had earlier warned that the use of chemical weapons in Syria was the “red line” that, if crossed, would necessitate US involvement. The White House caveat, however, did not consider the possibility that Syrian rebel forces would jump at the opportunity of bringing US forces over to their side in the event of such an attack.

During the G20 summit, which just wrapped up in St. Petersburg, the White House released a joint statement signed by the leaders and representatives of 11 nations – ten of whom are G20 members. The signees included Australia, Canada, France, Italy, Japan, Republic of Korea, Saudi Arabia, Spain, Turkey, the United Kingdom, and the United States.

The signatory nations said they “support efforts undertaken by the United States and other countries to reinforce the prohibition on the use of chemical weapons.”

However, the signatories to the statement were clearly opposed to any military action against Syria.

“Recognizing that Syria’s conflict has no military solution, we reaffirm our commitment to seek a peaceful political settlement through full implementation of the 2012 Geneva Communique. We are committed to a political solution which will result in a united, inclusive and democratic Syria,” it read.

Russia and China, among other nations, remain highly skeptical of claims that the Assad regime resorted to the use of chemical weapons, saying there is not enough evidence to prove with any certainty the identity of the perpetrators of the attack.

At the G20 summit, President Vladimir Putin called the chemical attack “provocation” carried out by rebels and cautioned strike supporters to act within the UN charter, and only after firm results of the UN probe are published, which may happen as soon as next week.
Just one more piece of the puzzle as to whom really did it, Assad,.... as if shooting self in foot, or Rebels,.... to bring in the US for needed support and aid hoping to end Assad's rule.

edit on 9-9-2013 by bekod because: line edit

posted on Sep, 9 2013 @ 12:47 AM
some facts about this "WMD" ie sarin nerve gas from the link, in full

What sarin is

Sarin is a human-made chemical warfare agent classified as a nerve agent. Nerve agents are the most toxic and rapidly acting of the known chemical warfare agents. They are similar to certain kinds of insecticides (insect killers) called organophosphates in terms of how they work and what kind of harmful effects they cause. However, nerve agents are much more potent than organophosphate pesticides.
Sarin originally was developed in 1938 in Germany as a pesticide.
Sarin is a clear, colorless, and tasteless liquid that has no odor in its pure form. However, sarin can evaporate into a vapor (gas) and spread into the environment.
Sarin is also known as GB.

Where sarin is found and how it is used

Sarin is not found naturally in the environment. It is a man-made toxin.
Sarin was used in two terrorist attacks in Japan in 1994 and 1995.

How people can be exposed to sarin

Following release of sarin into the air, people can be exposed through skin contact or eye contact. They also can be exposed by breathing air that contains sarin.
Sarin mixes easily with water. Following release of sarin into water, people can be exposed by touching or drinking water that contains sarin.
Following contamination of food with sarin, people can be exposed by eating the contaminated food.
A person’s clothing can release sarin after it has come in contact with sarin vapor, which can lead to exposure of other people.
Because sarin vapor is heavier than air, it will sink to low-lying areas and create a greater exposure hazard there.

How sarin works

The extent of poisoning caused by sarin depends on the amount of sarin to which a person was exposed, how the person was exposed, and the length of time of the exposure.
Symptoms likely will appear within a few seconds after exposure to the vapor form of sarin and within a few minutes to hours after exposure to the liquid form.
All nerve agents cause their toxic effects by preventing the proper operation of an enzyme that acts as the body’s “off switch” for glands and muscles. Without an “off switch,” the glands and muscles are constantly being stimulated. Exposed people may become tired and no longer be able to keep breathing.
Sarin is the most volatile of the nerve agents. This means it can easily and quickly evaporate from a liquid into a vapor and spread into the environment. People can be exposed to the vapor even if they do not come in contact with the liquid form of sarin.
Because it evaporates so quickly, sarin presents an immediate but short-lived threat.

Immediate signs and symptoms of sarin exposure

People may not know that they were exposed because sarin has no odor.
People exposed to a low or moderate dose of sarin by breathing contaminated air, eating contaminated food, drinking contaminated water, or touching contaminated surfaces may experience some or all of the following symptoms within seconds to hours of exposure:
Runny nose
Watery eyes
Small, pinpoint pupils
Eye pain
Blurred vision
Drooling and excessive sweating
Chest tightness
Rapid breathing
Nausea, vomiting, and/or abdominal pain
Increased urination
Slow or fast heart rate
Low or high blood pressure
Even a small drop of sarin on the skin can cause sweating and muscle twitching where sarin touched the skin.
Exposure to large doses of sarin by any route may result in the following harmful health effects:
Loss of consciousness
Respiratory failure possibly leading to death
Showing these signs and symptoms does not necessarily mean that a person has been exposed to sarin.

What the long-term health effects are

Mildly exposed people usually recover completely. Severely exposed people are less likely to survive.
How people can protect themselves, and what they should do if they are exposed to sarin

Recovery from sarin exposure is possible with treatment, but to be effective, the antidotes available must be used quickly. Therefore, the best thing to do is avoid exposure:
Leave the area where the sarin was released and get to fresh air. Quickly moving to an area where fresh air is available is highly effective in reducing the possibility of death from exposure to sarin vapor.
If the sarin release was outdoors, move away from the area where the sarin was released. Go to the highest ground possible, because sarin is heavier than air and will sink to low-lying areas.
If the sarin release was indoors, get out of the building.
If people think they may have been exposed, they should remove their clothing, rapidly wash their entire body with soap and water, and get medical care as quickly as possible.
Removing and disposing of clothing:
Quickly take off clothing that has liquid sarin on it. Any clothing that has to be pulled over the head should be cut off the body instead of pulled over the head. If possible, seal the clothing in a plastic bag. Then seal the first plastic bag in a second plastic bag. Removing and sealing the clothing in this way will help protect people from any chemicals that might be on their clothes.
If clothes were placed in plastic bags, inform either the local or state health department or emergency personnel upon their arrival. Do not handle the plastic bags.
If helping other people remove their clothing, try to avoid touching any contaminated areas, and remove the clothing as quickly as possible.
Washing the body:
As quickly as possible, wash any liquid sarin from the skin with large amounts of soap and water. Washing with soap and water will help protect people from any chemicals on their bodies.
Rinse the eyes with plain water for 10 to 15 minutes if they are burning or if vision is blurred.
If sarin has been swallowed, do not induce vomiting or give fluids to drink.
Seek medical attention immediately. Consider dialing 911 and explaining what has happened.

How sarin exposure is treated

Treatment consists of removing sarin from the body as soon as possible and providing supportive medical care in a hospital setting. Antidotes are available for sarin. They are most useful if given as soon as possible after exposure.
Now ask your self this, how and when, where, and by whom were the Videos made ?? For if this is as deadly as stated above , with out a N.B.C. suite or mask, for you that do not know here is the link showing one one could not run in and get footage of the event , and not be a victim. got to love this one Sarin originally was developed in 1938 in Germany as a pesticide., yea the final solution, does Auschwitz concentration camp ring a bell? then Keary saying "No one has used sense ww1" Kerry did you forget the Nazi's ? extermination camps built and operated by the Third Reich in Polish areas

edit on 9-9-2013 by bekod because: added link, line edit

posted on Sep, 9 2013 @ 12:56 AM

Originally posted by bekod
some facts about this "WMD" ie sarin nerve gas from the link


Ahh yes Watson.

Very informative.

edit on Sep-09-2013 by xuenchen because:

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