Smoothies and fruit juices are a new risk to health, US scientists warn

reply to post by AsarAlubat


Keep the high fructose out, and you should be fine.

In my own opinion though, there's a study that implicates practically everything as being bad for you. While I was growing up, it was the 'butter vs. margarine' war, and quite frankly, it never did more than confuse people into continuing to eat whichever one it was that they normally ate.

I look at every one of these studies as just another tool being used by someone down the line to shine an evil light on a product that rivals the product that they are trying to sell, so in short, I ignore them utterly.

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Best advice of the day!!!

I thought at first; "Yeah, sure... Nazis are at it again."

But as soon as I read Coke and Pepsi, all was understood!

Damn!!! AARGH!!!

reply to post by AsarAlubat
Wow, so they are now demonizing fruit juice & smoothies? The fact that their studies attempt to lump them into the same health category as soft drinks only makes me think Pepsi & Coca-Cola joined forces to fund this 'study' !

As for suggestions: incorporate yoghurt, if you haven't already thought of it! Not only does it add protein, it offsets one negative effect of sugar: yeast overgrowth.

I love Greek yoghurt. I the plain, unsweetened kind in place of sour cream in/on everything, including baked potatoes, and any recipes. You simply cannot tell the difference in taste or consistency!

Go You! Don't let this article/study throw you. Please U2U me the info on your new venture!

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One other idea to throw out to you...
I've read a lot about blood pH, and how when the normal human blood pH is pushed off kilter by our Western fast-food diet and such, that it can set the optimum conditions for cancer to thrive.

That said, is there any way you can test the pH of your concoctions and tweak your recipes towards the most healthy level? (This may be difficult, for the fact that some foods, like lemon, change pH during metabolization in the body- change to healthy, that is. Meaning, lemon may test out as a 'bad' pH level before it is actually swallowed into the gut!)

Anyway, just a thought...

reply to post by AsarAlubat


Well GMO is good for your, if it has sprays on in, and stuff then that stuff on the fruit is bad.

Now some people can be intolerant to fructose, as it can make you go to the bathroom a lot, so in that way some fruit can be bad I guess.

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Originally posted by jiggerj
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UGH! I just added an orange juice everyday to my diet, and it's no good? Are these people nuts? I also take issue with this in the article:

The entire literature shows that we feel full from drinking beverages like smoothies but it does not affect our overall food intake, whereas eating an orange does.

Has anyone ever felt full from eating an orange? I once tried a fruit diet where I ate two apples and a pear for breakfast. It did nothing to curb my hunger, and I mean NOTHING.

I added orange juice to my daily diet a while ago- it really helps get you going. As for fruit for "breakfast", it should definitely include it, but your body requires more protein and carbohydrates in the morning as well (at least mine does).

Personally I start with a little juice (usually organic orange) and some fruit like an apple- holds me for a couple hours for webwork and yoga- but I really need a big breakfast after about two hours of waking.

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Heard. Eating a fruit will always be a positive action, the nutritional benefits outweigh any fear of excess sugar intake.

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I like reading the back of the Naked juices.. however, I don't believe they are organic, so I limit myself. But there's some great additions to some of them- the "green machine" has like garlic, and some less common, nutritious veggies.

Thanks for all your replies guys.

-AA

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Originally posted by ProfessorChaos
reply to post by AsarAlubat

 

Keep the high fructose out, and you should be fine.

Definitely. You really can't buy ANYTHING in most stores without finding the HFCS in it.

In my own opinion though, there's a study that implicates practically everything as being bad for you. While I was growing up, it was the 'butter vs. margarine' war, and quite frankly, it never did more than confuse people into continuing to eat whichever one it was that they normally ate.

I look at every one of these studies as just another tool being used by someone down the line to shine an evil light on a product that rivals the product that they are trying to sell, so in short, I ignore them utterly.

I have really gotten used to using coconut oil for most baking - I'll use butter for some things, but I try to never use veggie oil or margarine anymore.

We really have to be as careful as ever in what we put in our bodies, in this day and age- one of the reasons this business is so important to me. We'll open before 2014.

Not only are there plenty of things misinforming what the good is vs. the bad in food, but a large percentage of commonly eaten American food should be avoided. And of course drink too- how can people still drink soda?

While running the business, the website blog will be my means of communicating to my following/public of truthful information about the good vs. the bad in food and beverage. And introducing new things to people, most people have never tried hemp milk.

Cheers,

-AA

Originally posted by new_here
As for suggestions: incorporate yoghurt, if you haven't already thought of it! Not only does it add protein, it offsets one negative effect of sugar: yeast overgrowth.

I love Greek yoghurt. I the plain, unsweetened kind in place of sour cream in/on everything, including baked potatoes, and any recipes. You simply cannot tell the difference in taste or consistency!

Go You! Don't let this article/study throw you. Please U2U me the info on your new venture!

I love Greek yoghurt as well! I will have to try some in/on baked potatoes- much healthier than sour cream, I'm sure..

I have U2U'd our information and site, thanks for being interested- stop by when we open!

Respects,

-AA

Originally posted by Kaboose
reply to post by AsarAlubat

 

Well GMO is good for your, if it has sprays on in, and stuff then that stuff on the fruit is bad.

Now some people can be intolerant to fructose, as it can make you go to the bathroom a lot, so in that way some fruit can be bad I guess.

Hm, can't I agree with you here. Just because most Americans have been eating genetically modified foods for the past 20 years without any obvious ill effects does not mean they are good for you, or even neutral.

-AA

reply to post by AsarAlubat


Natural 100% fruit juice is very healthy. Problem is there are number of "juice drinks" which are not

Juice drinks may contain only 10% fruit juices, rest is sugar (sucrose), High fructose corn syrup (HFCS) and
variety of other additives.

READ THE LABELS !!!!!!!

It will tell you what the product contains . If want to eat healthy then avoid these manufactured products
and stick to straight 100 % fruit juices

reply to post by AsarAlubat


Noni is actually in the Mulberry family. The plant bears a large fruit, which quickly becomes soft and foul-smelling. Traditionally, it is fermented (rotted) in a glass container until the juice leeches out of the fruit. I squeeze it from the fruit when the fruit is still firm, and the juice is yellow, rather than the dark brown of the fermented fruit. The above link is from the University of Hawaii. Noni is a big business in Hawaii. Traditionally here in the Cayman Islands, the leaves of the plant are used to produce a poultice to apply topically to areas with joint and muscular pain. It's also quite common here for people working in the sun to place a leaf of the plant under their hat to cool them. It works -- I just haven't done a qualitative study to measure whether other broad-leafed plants work as well.

This is not medical advice

Noni has long been thought to be a tonic or energizer. My Darlin' and me drink the juice twice per day, and both of us feel more energized, as well as less pains. We're both 55. We both have chronic pains that seem to have been eased since we've been drinking noni juice.

Since the plants grow wild on our property, we pick the fruits and use them. Traditionally fermented juice tastes somewhat like......... hmmm......... okay, it tastes like a wine made from fish and cheese. Nasty. Not everyone can drink it. Fresh-squeezed juice tastes a lot like pineapple juice that has just started to turn. Not bad at all.

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Originally posted by argentus
reply to post by AsarAlubat

 

Noni is actually in the Mulberry family. The plant bears a large fruit, which quickly becomes soft and foul-smelling. Traditionally, it is fermented (rotted) in a glass container until the juice leeches out of the fruit. I squeeze it from the fruit when the fruit is still firm, and the juice is yellow, rather than the dark brown of the fermented fruit. The above link is from the University of Hawaii. Noni is a big business in Hawaii. Traditionally here in the Cayman Islands, the leaves of the plant are used to produce a poultice to apply topically to areas with joint and muscular pain. It's also quite common here for people working in the sun to place a leaf of the plant under their hat to cool them. It works -- I just haven't done a qualitative study to measure whether other broad-leafed plants work as well.

This is not medical advice

Noni has long been thought to be a tonic or energizer. My Darlin' and me drink the juice twice per day, and both of us feel more energized, as well as less pains. We're both 55. We both have chronic pains that seem to have been eased since we've been drinking noni juice.

I'm glad you seem to have found an ease to your ailments, in perhaps drinking the noni juice. I'm not one to back down on trying new things and food, and my online research tells me I should be fine (if I'm in good health) to try the noni juice for the first time? May I inquire if you have the same opinion for people looking to try noni for the first time?

Since the plants grow wild on our property, we pick the fruits and use them. Traditionally fermented juice tastes somewhat like......... hmmm......... okay, it tastes like a wine made from fish and cheese. Nasty. Not everyone can drink it. Fresh-squeezed juice tastes a lot like pineapple juice that has just started to turn. Not bad at all.

Not bad at all, for the nutrients it seems to provide.. It's on the food bucket-list.

Thanks for sharing!

Respectfully yours,

-AA

Once again, I do not understand. How is it that the same people who say TPTB are out to reduce population with the end goal of getting it down to 500k worldwide, then go and believe whatever TPTB say when it comes to food and diet? If one believes they are evil and would like to kill the majority of us, why would they then believe the things TPTB say are healthy and or unhealthy. The key is looking for independent studies, not ones funded by GOVT, diet companies, Soda, cig companies etc. In the end, I for one, basically look at whatever TPTB say about health, and pretty much believe the opposite is true. I mean, that's the way everything else they do or say works isn't it?

Oh, I wish you the very best with your business. best of luck to ya.

Originally posted by AsarAlubat
I'm quite young, never started a business before, but I'm completely confident I can handle it.

What do you have to say about the article? What's your take? Any suggestions for my recipes?
-AA

Good luck AsarAlubat on the new venture. The hardest thing to do is declare your organizational structure and subchapter (Subchapter 'S' - will allow you to take profits as personal income at up to 42.5% of income in California, rather than corporate income at 48.5%, and an LLC should allow you to do the same thing.) The rest is you just doing what you love to do.

The body knows how to handle sugar. It has been handling sugar for millions of years, even in the homo genus context. What it does not know how to handle are foods which are suddenly a giant leap different than they used to be genetically, and now carry combination locks which do not allow a clean discernment between toxins and nutrients. This confusion leads to auto-immune disorders.

What I find in developing nations is one common equation when newly skyrocketing diabetes is observed = a commensurate introduction of US hybridized wheat. In one nation my company recently completed a medical assessment of the population - diabetes had jumped from #35 to #1 on the malady list among the genetic natives, in just 15 short years. It was not caused by softdrinks.

It is plain and simple, if we imbue our diet with toxins - we gain weight through Hashimoto induced endocrine system damage, intestinal bacteria imbalances and destruction, auto-immune disorders, feeling bad and lethargic, and edema (warehousing of toxins in skin and abdominal fat).

Smoothies are not going to do any of this.

We tv horseradish snack niksya.ru... ( scrolled through the wringer tomatoes, horseradish root , garlic , sometimes pepper chili ) allegedly grandmother collected at the dump rotten tomatoes make horseradish snack and sell rotten citizens . listen to the media and do the opposite , they have given impetus by his denial and horseradish bought on the street grandmothers NOT IN THE SHOP "kiss of cobra" openok.ru... will be on my desk every day

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Hello AsarAlubat! Just another idea for your smoothies...
Sweet Potatoes! Even though they are not a fruit, they are quite delicious, full of vitamin A & fiber, and would have the added benefit of enhancing the creamy, thick consistency of a smoothie. Of course you'd have to bake them first!

I'm sure they would go better with some fruits rather than others. (Probably better with peach, pear, apricot and/or apple, rather than citrus.) Or I could be wrong about the citrus-- might really add 'body' and balance out the acidic taste.) Also not sure about the berry family. I guess it would just take some experimenting, eh?

I dunno, what do you think?

Also, I got your U2U-- too bad I'm in the southeast! Maybe when you strike it rich, you can expand into mail order, shipping your delicacies in specially designed temperature-controlled boxes, like Shari's Berries!!! Otherwise, I'll just have to drop by if I ever make it out that way.

Best of luck, in any case!

I thought the headline of that article was very misleading; when I hear "smoothie" I don't think of Coke or Pepsi or McDonald's. Those "smoothies" are probably mostly bad for you. I actually got into juicing a few months ago after watching a documentary called "Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead". I love my juicer, but want to get a Vitamix next so I can blend smoothies as well as juice to keep the fiber. I drink "green juice" almost every day, and it has changed my life! I almost never just juice straight fruit, though. Veggies are a lot sweeter than I thought they would be juiced. My typical green juice is leafy greens, usually kale or collard greens, and sometimes others, like dandelion greens, chard, or bok choy, a fresh herb, either parsley or cilantro, celery, cucumber, lemon, ginger, and either apple, orange, or pineapple- though usually pineapple because I read it is good for inflammation. Actually, I have read that celery and ginger are also specifically good for helping with inflammation pain. Before I drank "green juice" I was in chronic inflammatory pain that seriously affected my quality of life. I was taking so much ibuprofen that I started having weird stomach pains, and probably screwed up my body. As long as I drink the green juice, I don't have any pain anymore! I WISH there was somewhere near me that I could buy this juice already made, because it is a lot of work to wash and prep and clean the juicer, and because it is unpasteurized, it only lasts 12 hours or so. I have a pipe dream of one day opening a juice/smoothie place, because it is so good for people!
My favorite recipes:
Green Juice- 1 bunch kale, 1 bunch parsley, 4 (or more) stalks celery, 1-2 cucumbers, 1 lemon, 1 thumb sized piece ginger, 1/2 pineapple --This makes me 4 servings. I share 2 with family, drink 1, and save 1 for later. This tastes sweeter than you would think, and each serving only has 1/8 of a pineapple in it. Not only does it work faster than ibuprofen, but it gives me energy, when I used to have fatigue to go with the pain.
Watermelon Lemonade- This is the only all juice recipe I drink, just straight watermelon and lemons, made to taste. So yummy! Also can add mint to change it up.
Watermelon Ice- Run watermelon through blender, then freeze it (I just use an ice cube tray). Then, when I am ready, I put the frozen watermelon in a blender with a little bit of honey and lemon juice. It's sort of like sherbet.
Banana "Ice Cream"- This recipe is why I dream of owning a Vitamix someday- I killed my cheap-o blender due to my addiction to this past summer. You just peel and freeze bananas, then blend them. I usually sweeten it with honey. There are tons of add ins you could use, too; my favorite is frozen bananas blended with frozen blueberries and honey.

I make my own fruit smoothies with nutritional supplement regularly, and when I want to lose weight I do a meal or two replacement for two weeks and I am down 15 pounds, so not sure about health issues. I don't add any sugar though, and it's frozen fruit and water.

Congratulations on your adventure. It sounds like a wole lot of fun, and I truly wish you success.

My fav smoothie combines banana, yogurt and nutmeg which I thin a little with skim milk.

The article leaves me suspicious of the big multinational companies and anything they endorse probably has all kinds of bad stuff in their products. Their warnings equally make me suspicious as to their intentions.

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Instead of sugar you can use Stevia. It is a natural sweetener from a root.