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Syria: The Obama Distraction

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posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 10:52 AM
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It's frustrating and a bit frightening as far as our future prospects go. The world is teetering on an historically significant brink --- again. Meanwhile, here on ATS we have countless Obama threads popping-up pointing out all of the actions and inactions attributed to Obama that are leading up to an increasingly bad outcome. The perennial Obama haters stoke that fire while the perennial Obama apologists do everything they can to mount a defense. What's missing from this debate is a single shred of intellectual honesty.

Overwhelming and incontrovertible evidence going back decades has been laid-out across multiple threads clearly showing that what we are seeing unfold before us is just one more act in a play that was written long, long ago. These events have nothing to do with Obama, the Democrats, the Republicans, or our international allies. They are ALL just playing roles in this production. They are all complicit in what is going down. It doesn't matter whether Obama is in office or if Romney had been elected. We would be in exactly the same situation although perhaps the timing would have been different. Other people are calling the shots from the sidelines here. The 'elected officials' are simply there to facilitate those instructions, sell them to the American people, and act as front men.

While we waste our time arguing whose party is better the facts clearly show that they are essentially one in the same. Meanwhile, as we bicker among ourselves, the agenda goes on --- year after year, administration after administration. If we still have the opportunity in 2016 we'll once again go to the polls and the Republicans will present all the failings of the Obama administration, just as the Obama campaign did regarding Bush, and perhaps a Republican front-man will get elected. And then we'll have Business As Usual as that new administration continues the plan just as Obama has.

What they count on is short memories and distraction. They (all of them) use a number of well-proven tactics. For example, say the same thing over-and-over and people will just assume it's true. Proven propaganda tactic used for generations. I've said this in several other threads: The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

These shadowy powers behind-the-scenes have hijacked our government using money and influence wielded through the two-party system. They use the parties to control the individual politicians while maintaining the illusion of 'choice'. It doesn't matter who gets in office, the outcome is predetermined. Anyone who can't see this is intentionally blind or intellectually dishonest. Human nature causes us to desperately cling to our sense of 'reality', to maintain our view of what's 'normal' at all costs. We vigorously reject anything that challenges that view and creates uncertainty. People look at battered spouses and can't understand why they defend and stick by their abuser even when given the chance to leave. We are that battered spouse.

TPTB have long established systems and mechanisms in-place to control politicians through the two-party system. It's effective, it's efficient and easy to manage. If We The People have any possible chance to take back our government it can only come through a complete and abrupt abandonment of the two-parties currently controlling our political system. Forcing TPTB to have to attempt to wield their influence on a politician-by-politician basis will disrupt business-as-usual and give us the window of opportunity to re-establish accountability and transparency enough to derail their plans and influence. They have taken away our rights, emptied our treasury, destroyed our international standing, laid-low our economy, stolen our jobs, abrogated our Constitution, and subjected us to illegal surveillance at an astounding level. What do they need to do to get your attention? Begin eating your children?

While you people perpetuate your Obama/Bush circle-jerks their plan progresses at-pace. The Republic is burning while you fiddle. We have one, and likely only one, chance left before we end up in the streets and suffer a fate that will likely make Syria and Egypt look like backyard birthday parties. TPTB will NOT go easily. They will stop at nothing to maintain their grip and their treasure. You people (you know who you are) that are perpetuating the Myth need to stop the division and help fight this. We need to expunge the two-parties and everyone associated with them form the PTA to the Whitehouse. They must be made to be personae non grata everywhere and anywhere in the country. We must bathe them in such societal stink that NO ONE will have anything to do with them or their kind ever again.

We need to make a change People. A complete paradigm shift. I ask you --- I BEG you --- to pledge to abandon the Democratic and Republican parties in their entirety and elect only third-party candidates that you have personally vetted. We have very little time.



posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 11:07 AM
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Scarier still? The USA is SO HUNGRY for a real leader? The next one that steps up and promises hope will be the end of the USA for good.

Be careful what you ask for.

I do understand your point - and I agree - there has got to be a change - but it has to come from People as a whole- not the leaders as a one.

peace

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posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 11:13 AM
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That takes an Idea, momentum, sway of the masses. The hardest part of that is the time it will take , and would it be too late by then.



posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 11:13 AM
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You're right and that's what scares me too.

When Bush was elected in 2000, I absolutely recall the "ANYONE but Clinton" sentiment. We were sick of blue dresses, cigars in the wrong places and tales of bodies or scandal like Vince Foster. enough! we cried! ...ANYONE else!!

We got anyone else..didn't we? We got anything BUT something decent. Then in 2008...what was the cry? BURN THE BUSH! Anything but another Republican! ANYTHING but this!

We got anyone else, didn't we? We got a smooth talking shyster that could sell life insurance to a used car salesman and have him feeling lucky to have had the chance.

In 2016? Oh... why bother. The "ANYTHING ELSE!" cries have already begun and they are damn sincere. I think you may be onto something. If you were patient and willing to spent 25 years to achieve it? This would be a hell of a way to get a leader into America that could NEVER EVER be elected in any other way. Make such a line of losers.....we LOVE the choice long before knowing how bad it really is.



posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 11:15 AM
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She should have died hereafter;
There would have been a time for such a word.
Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury
Signifying nothing. — Macbeth (Act 5, Scene 5, lines 17-28)

When I think of what's unfolding in Syria the above quote keeps coming to mind. That we have been the poor player but it has been nothing more than sounds and fury signifying nothing. Promises of Abraham?
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posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 11:17 AM
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Most likely the military. As soon as some politicians decide to slap down a bully somewhere, the military says well if you want to do that, fine but first you have to protect your flanks and your rear. Install an airbase here, a port to supply it there, another couple of military bases here and there for back up in case these people get upset, blah blah blah.

Pretty soon the whole region is bristling with military presence to protect the "vital interests" that wouldn't need protecting before establishing a presence there in the first place.



posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 11:41 AM
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about all that can be done now is to let the 3 factions fight themselves to the death


Presently the 0bama+Muslim Brotherhood Faction is teamed with the Clinton Faction

the Neocon & Christian Zionist Faction has lost presence but still has the playbook which all still use

the Banker Guild +Federal Reserve+Treasury which comprise 90% of the Shadow Government is in a War Room battle with the 0bama MB...Progressive Marxists as to who will command the Syria-Iran dismemberment action

i think there will be blood on Wall Street as many in the TBTF Banker Faction get their just deserts from the Muslim Faction taking over the reigns from the Bankster Shadow Government who once were allied with the Neocons/Zionists


after a time Kerry too will be shown-the-door-out...he's sure botching the Syria issue & the art of Evidencing' guilt with just plain biased, dishonest lingo


I really think that Proof to the World about this gas attack being a Saudi+USA false-flag will really help 0bama ascend to real power in the USA...the Shadow Government out -- the 0bama Muslim cadre in
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related reading:

www.counterpunch.org...

September 05, 2013

Larry Summers and the System


Title; "Making the World Safe for Banksters"
by ELLEN BROWN




thanks
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posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 11:56 AM
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A few days ago, I did an extensive search for a poster I saw once, looked like it was around 1890 something, group of men standing on a cliff, in tophats, watching a train going over the divide between two cliffs, and as the track gives way on the other side, and the train catapults down, down, they are saying: "Oh, sh@@t."


Your message, OP, was what I wanted to convey with your thread. Dead on, never applied more than here, somehow evidenced, also, by Rosinitiate's quoting of Shakespeare, as well, though I find the quote duplicitous for he was only then realizing his manipulation by his wife's ambitions and how giving into them had destroyed him, led him to murder.

Anyway, of course this is pure distraction. Watching it is like watching a B movie of crap that's already happened, I suppose, for some of us, repeatedly, and though it has, we never seem to be able to get a grip over it, and make the ending come out differently. And most of our arguments, in the meantime, while that "retake" is in progress, are either a distraction, a division and concquering of anyone left who may realize just that, etc.....

two parties: duality you get bounced back and forth by, reinforcing the belief of duality in ALL ways. Three parties, I don't know that we'd be any better off. It seems sometimes, we are actually living in a holographically produced vortex in this dimension, intended to create a void where there is nothing, no life or death, either, destruction of all living matter, and this dimension, even, perhaps being used to rip the thin veil between all others, to do the same, there, as well. For as we spin in this "time circle" it appears we are constantly about justifying past actions that then had no justification, to continually reaffirm what I describe above, as though all life has been so corrupted it should no longer exist...... This, of course, is an off topic presumption for your thread, but seems to me to be the bigger picture of what your thread is saying....

It is, *sigh*..........wholly disheartening, and perhaps sometimes feels like not such a good time to be alive. I see people marrying and having families, and wonder.......it must take some serious blinders these days to proceed with such seemingly normal activities. Middle aged now, I could never even think of it, but do not think by that comment I am critical of them doing so. It's just damn frustrating, knowing and not being able to affect any real change, and watching that train do the same over and over and over and over.......

Good OP, anyway. Thanks for it.
Sincerely,
Tetra50
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posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 12:21 PM
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As we witnessed in the Middle East, the population was oppressed to the point that they gave up and just 'went along'. Until things got SO bad that they just lost it. Once it got to the point they were having trouble feeding their families they went to the streets and railed against the same issues: corruption in government, economic deprivation, and lack of representation. But the issues are the same everywhere. The power blocks behind the government fronts have become increasing bold and reckless.

It may be true that it's too late. But we have a responsibility to our families and one another to try. At no time in history has The People had a greater chance of organizing and forcing change. The internet is the game changer. We all know TPTB fear it and are in a desperate struggle to control and regulate it. But it gives us the ability to organize, mobilize, and inform largely beyond the control of TPTB --- for now.

For now at least, we have the power to force change if we are able to work together. We can continue as we have and just let Them have their way but it will not end well for us. Look what they've already accomplished without any opposition? We're like frogs in a pot.



posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 12:28 PM
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Can you possibly transfer your brilliant OP, into a more general thread?

Something like, The Art of Peaceful Resistance: How to Defeat TPTB.

We the people need to find common ground, to unify, and to begin exploring creative ways to eradicate this covert cancer of humanity.



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posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 12:34 PM
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TPTB have long established systems and mechanisms in-place to control politicians through the two-party system. It's effective, it's efficient and easy to manage.




We need to make a change People. A complete paradigm shift. I ask you --- I BEG you --- to pledge to abandon the Democratic and Republican parties in their entirety and elect only third-party candidates that you have personally vetted. We have very little time.

 


Assuming the truth is that TPTB have actually achieved worldwide control of the central banking system via worldwide member organizations like the WTO, BIS, OPEC petrodollar agreement, along with dozens of other worldwide trade and banking organizations that are supported by worldwide international corporations that control the political Lobbying in many 'nations' and 'nation groups' (like the EU), how exactly will 'electing' "3rd" party candidates to U.S. national office solve the problem ?

If TPTB "have their long established systems and mechanisms in-place to control politicians (and therefore laws) through the two-party system", why and how would a new 3rd party or single party stop them ?

Assuming TPTB have successfully 'combined' the current two parties into one, how would a new party be harder to control ?

A single party system might actually make it easier.
 





Forcing TPTB to have to attempt to wield their influence on a politician-by-politician

The Lobbying organizations do that now to an extent.

Sure they use the more powerful politicians to get a message across to a larger group, but they will still do it when the political groups are smaller. They'll simply use more Lobbyists.

TPTB with the worldwide banking and corporatist organization is the most powerful organization in the history of the world.

One country isn't going to stop it.



posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by jtma508
As we witnessed in the Middle East, the population was oppressed to the point that they gave up and just 'went along'. Until things got SO bad that they just lost it. Once it got to the point they were having trouble feeding their families they went to the streets and railed against the same issues: corruption in government, economic deprivation, and lack of representation. But the issues are the same everywhere. The power blocks behind the government fronts have become increasing bold and reckless.

It may be true that it's too late. But we have a responsibility to our families and one another to try. At no time in history has The People had a greater chance of organizing and forcing change. The internet is the game changer. We all know TPTB fear it and are in a desperate struggle to control and regulate it. But it gives us the ability to organize, mobilize, and inform largely beyond the control of TPTB --- for now.

For now at least, we have the power to force change if we are able to work together. We can continue as we have and just let Them have their way but it will not end well for us. Look what they've already accomplished without any opposition? We're like frogs in a pot.


In one form or other the internet has been here since Viet Nam, and I respectfully find it hasn't changed a damn thing, only reinforced what already was, and further polarized the rest, and identified them, so they could be destroyed.



posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 12:45 PM
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Matt Drudge Breaks Up With Republicans, Joins Libertarians
Read more at www.activistpost.com...


"It's now Authoritarian vs Libertarian," Drudge tweeted. "Since Democrats vs. Republicans has been obliterated, no real difference between parties..


I hope this thought gets fastened to the hearts and minds of Americans. I am really tired of the phony, corrupt game going on in Washington, DC.

Starred and Flagged.
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posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 01:17 PM
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I think if most people of the world start to say NO to TPTB it will at least delay or redirect or makes them reconsider some of their satanic plans....I can not picture them constantly doing whatever they wish despite negative reactions from the masses.,,At least not for long.



posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 03:06 PM
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Why? Because it wouldn't be a 'one-party' system. If we began electing truly qualified people (with established backgrounds in political science, economics, public administration, etc.) instead of lawyers and professional politicians and selected them from across the spectrum of 3rd parties and true (non-associated) independents there would no longer be any 'single point of contact' for TPTB. I have no way of knowing if you have any legitimate, first-hand experience in DC. I have. The lobbyists work through the parties to establish consensus en masse and then go directly to the individuals (when necessary) to sway them. But the whole K Street thing works through the established parties. Nothing is done without the blessing of each.

We can barely hope to repair what's become of THIS country. We can't yet worry about fixing the entire world at once. All I'm saying is that we have basically 3 choices:

1. We can just roll-over and let them do whatever they want, muddle by as long as we can, and hope for the best.

2. We can work together to send an unmistakable message that business-as-usual ends now. We're taking back our government.

3. We can do an Egypt/Syria and take it to the streets. Only a madman would see this option as anything but a last resort.

You're just wrong about the internet. All of the recent 'popular uprisings' have been started, coordinated and supported through the use of social media and the internet.



posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 04:08 PM
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The more things change the more the stay the same. Have no these same claims been made about every government in every nation since the dawn of civilization? Of course if you compare now to the rest of history we are more free, have more peace, and are more prosperous then at any other time. Those people in Egypt and Syria rise up because they dream of having half as good as we do. While things may not be perfect lets try and take a realistic historical perspective on things. Then again thats not the way we do things around here is it.



posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by jtma508
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Why? Because it wouldn't be a 'one-party' system. If we began electing truly qualified people (with established backgrounds in political science, economics, public administration, etc.) instead of lawyers and professional politicians and selected them from across the spectrum of 3rd parties and true (non-associated) independents there would no longer be any 'single point of contact' for TPTB. I have no way of knowing if you have any legitimate, first-hand experience in DC. I have. The lobbyists work through the parties to establish consensus en masse and then go directly to the individuals (when necessary) to sway them. But the whole K Street thing works through the established parties. Nothing is done without the blessing of each.

We can barely hope to repair what's become of THIS country. We can't yet worry about fixing the entire world at once. All I'm saying is that we have basically 3 choices:

1. We can just roll-over and let them do whatever they want, muddle by as long as we can, and hope for the best.

2. We can work together to send an unmistakable message that business-as-usual ends now. We're taking back our government.

3. We can do an Egypt/Syria and take it to the streets. Only a madman would see this option as anything but a last resort.

You're just wrong about the internet. All of the recent 'popular uprisings' have been started, coordinated and supported through the use of social media and the internet.



I agree mostly.

But it's a tough crowd. Not easy to change the ways.
 


I'm curious about one comment however;


You're just wrong about the internet. All of the recent 'popular uprisings' have been started, coordinated and supported through the use of social media and the internet.


Where did I mention the 'internet' ??

www.abovetopsecret.com...

note there is no 'edits' in that post.



posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 04:38 PM
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Sorry... it was tetra that made that statement. My apologies. If you see him, tell him he's dead wrong. yea, the internet has been around but during the Vietnam War it was, in its best places, a bulletin board system. Facebook didn't come along until 2004, Twitter in 2006 and even the Web as we know it wasn't in widespread use until the '90s.



posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 05:49 PM
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Effective strategies for neutralizing TPTB have already been developed and successfully tested, by Mahatma Gandhi.


'Mahatma Gandhi would have welcomed the Internet'

'Gandhi’s top 10 fundamentals for changing the world'


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posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 06:42 PM
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Originally posted by jtma508
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Sorry... it was tetra that made that statement. My apologies. If you see him, tell him he's dead wrong. yea, the internet has been around but during the Vietnam War it was, in its best places, a bulletin board system. Facebook didn't come along until 2004, Twitter in 2006 and even the Web as we know it wasn't in widespread use until the '90s.



If I'm wrong, it's "she's dead wrong, though."


Anyway, you mention "popular uprisings,...." Do you think Egypt is better off right now, I wonder? Is Iraq, for that matter. No, it may have been horrible in those places before, but I'm not sure one could say that it isn't now, as well. Rebellions have changed in that "it seems" via the internet they are "popular," but I'm not all too sure that's true or just internet propaganda which makes it seem by a few and spread by many who get on board for whatever reason, when what starts it, or rather who, is still very much in question.

When someone posts and tells you they are from Syria, or Medellin, for instance, do you just believe them? They could even be there and posting pics.....still doesn't mean they are Syrian or Columbian, or they aren't working for some alphabet agency, for that matter, whatever their nationality may be. Or employed by some other group, for that matter, that has ties to another group and so on, with a vested interest, shall we say, to topple what's in place. And when that falls, as we're seeing, it's not necessarily "better" with "newness."

As another member just posted before this, "The more things change, the more they stay the same." It only appears to be a change. Somehow it usually just isn't. Depressing, but still pretty true. Especially in certain areas of the world, as their cultures are still of a tribal or sect nature, united under one totalitarian system.....the reason it's usually totalitarian is it takes that, frequently, to unite all those tribes and religious sects.
Tetra50



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