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Another way to put it is there was a singularity. An undefinable, yet existent, state of space-time.
So you believe in infinity then - so the universe has always existed?
Originally posted by Astyanax
Sure. I think looking at it my way makes it a bit easier to explain the concept. But I may be wrong – people never seem to get it anyway.
An unknown & not completely understood force birthed the universe in a singular violent event?
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by anonentity
If that were the case there would be an observable source.
That is not what observations show. What observations show is a pervasive field of electromagnetic radiation which is essentially the same in every direction. The conclusion reached by this observation is that the "source" of the initial expansion is at the outer, rather than inner, limits of the Universe.
Originally posted by Astyanax
reply to post by Phage
Sure. I think looking at it my way makes it a bit easier to explain the concept. But I may be wrong – people never seem to get it anyway.
No. We are apes, not monkeys. All of us.
I think I get it , but we are monkeys, some more so than others.
The fact that the Universe may be finite, may be true, but the space it occupies might be infinite. It occupies the space it needs to occupy. Its in its own time slot so it can. Like the extent of the Universe may be found, but the space and time it occupies will not.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by anonentity
You know the observations were made with satellites, right? No horizons in space.
The center of the Milky Way is indeed in the direction of Sagittarius but the Galaxy is not the Universe. It is a very, very, very small part of it.edit on 9/5/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)
He's a "science" shill for the NWO, always ready to spin the story whatever way the CIA, or the Pentagon, or the NSA, or the NWO spin meisters at MIT or Harvard, or Columbia, or John Hopkins, or Tavistock want him to spin it. At the time, I guesstimated that Kaku's interview was part of a propaganda package to lay the groundwork for what the government would claim was a runaway 'pandemic' scenario which would emulate the 1918 kill off. Source
He says that global government is progress. One-world government means "Type 1 civilization". And all who oppose it are "terrorists".
Michio Kaku = Illuminati propaganda agent
'Michio goes cuckoo and says you are a terrorist if you are against the NWO. He claims that the NWO is Type 1 attainment on the Kardashev scale. He also spews the false "alien gospel" to set the public up for the coming fake disclosure of the grigori as " Type 2 greys". Type 3 is obviously God and His angels, but what will the illuminati say they are?
Michio Kaku: People Who Oppose NWO Are 'Terrorists'
Michio Kaku – New World Order Facilitator
The science establishment is like the medical model – sterilized white suits with unchallengeable answers sent down to us from sacred Mount Know-It-All.
Until they’re disproven. Time and again.
The indoctrination is complete, the wars are underway, gobs of drugs were sold and people sickened, and whatever else they’re pushing is being consumed en masse…
You know this guy has to be the voice of the PTBs with all the press he gets. He’s set up as such an unchallengeable authority.
He may imply or claim “innocence” of any complicity, but I’ll bet he knows quite well which side his bread is buttered on. As many of them do.
Kaku’s job, like that of so many others, is to soften us up and prepare us to accept this technological takeover of mankind. Already they’re busy “mastering” nature with genetic tampering, geoengineering, and messing with electromagnetic weaponry. These programs are already in full swing, however cloaked.
Kaku is being used as the scientific white coat to help people swallow these pills and even happily enslave themselves to this Orwellian takeover.
As smart as this guy is, he definitely knows who’s pulling his strings, and he doesn’t mind the benefits. Unfortunately, much of the scientific community is blackmailed into towing the party line or they’ll lose their research grants or places in the scientific hierarchy or University system.
Still, I have no respect for anyone who cows to that, for whatever reason. It’s because people won’t stand up that humanity is becoming a full-on slave race.
These NWO pushers are everywhere. And they love the cloak of their bastardized “science” to supposedly validate their programs. After all, isn’t eugenics a science? Didn’t supposed scientists and dentists and University PhDs in white lab coats recommend we fluoridate the water supply, and host of other insanities?
www.zengardner.com...
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by anonentity
No. We are apes, not monkeys. All of us.
I think I get it , but we are monkeys, some more so than others.
The fact that the Universe may be finite, may be true, but the space it occupies might be infinite. It occupies the space it needs to occupy. Its in its own time slot so it can. Like the extent of the Universe may be found, but the space and time it occupies will not.
I think I get what you are talking about. The fact that the universe may be finite, may be true, but it occupies might be infinite the space. To occupy it occupies the space it needs. It can its in its own time slot so. Of the universe may be found like the extent, but not, the space and time it occupies will. Is that it?
edit on 9/5/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by buster2010
i can,t get my head round that everything came from nothing.
Is the story of some mythical creature snapping it's fingers and creating everything from nothing more believable?
Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
Originally posted by buster2010
i can,t get my head round that everything came from nothing.
Is the story of some mythical creature snapping it's fingers and creating everything from nothing more believable?
Actually, God didn't snap his fingers... he spoke everything into existence. The Big Bang... Evolution (save for micro-evolution) have no observable evidence whatsoever. None. People who believe in Darwinism and the Big Bang show just as much faith as those of us who believe in God, or more specifically the Bible and Creationism.