Preparations for a World War ?

What preparations would be needed in an event on a world war.

As we all have seen on the news lately Syria seems to be a case for things in the ME to be hotting up. If a US strike does go ahead, we don't know what move Syria will in the matter of a fact what move Iran or Russia will make.

Today I have be closely motoring the build up from the across the pond on the Syria Crisis and my gut feeling for a big ME war may just break out.

A world war may not be the case however if it was what bug out preps would you recommend before any initial exchanges of possible nuclear or biological warfare.

reply to post by deviant300


Depends where you live.......?
If the UK then don't bother trying!


We are all dead if nuked.

My work mates think I'm a bit crazy at the moment for carrying my fire-lighting equipment to work.

You never know when things may go off, so I'm carrying them all the time right now, just in case.

I know it's all speculation, but right now I think this is the most volitile moment of time in history, given the tensions and weapons at our disposal things could go very pear shaped very quickly. I really do have the worst of feelings about this one.

I personally think buying up seeds would be a good idea, iodine tablets and water purifiers but if the "big one" goes off I think long term survival chances are small.

Somewhere here on ATS there is a thread which includes plans revised in 2006 by the Russians in the event nuclear war ever happened. I wish I knew where the thread was because it shows all the places in the U.S. that would be affected by fallout etc. There was one little tiny blip somewhere in Washington that might be ok....

The only real external threat is that exact scenario, which if it came down to it, we're all screwed IMO even tho I'm sure there would be mutual destruction of course. So what could we do about it? Not a whole lot unless you have an underground bunker to live in for a loooooong time.

Basically there is no sense in even worrying about it, just my 2 cents.

The strike on Syria will happen. Obama has said as much. But, WW3 will not be a result of it. Simply put, no other nation has the resources to wage it.

Somewhere here on ATS there is a thread which includes plans revised in 2006 by the Russians in the event nuclear war ever happened. I wish I knew the where the thread was because it shows all the places in the U.S. that would be affected by fallout etc. There was one little tiny blip somewhere in Washington that might be ok....

This sounds completely bogus. For one thing, the Russians don't have enough nukes active and ready to hit all those targets. For another, the missile defense system will take out quite a number, and I'm sure that wasn't factored in. Third, there are HUGE swathes of the nation with no significant targets at all, and these would be largely untouched. Finally, today's nukes are WAY less in magnitude of those at the height of the Cold War. On average, they are in the 2-5mt range. Hardly enough for the massive amounts of fallout suggested. Also, the initial 48 hours is the worst fallout time. After that, it goes down exponentially. With the right circumstances and preps, those far enough away from major target centers stand an excellent chance of living through even a full Russian nuke strike, with their current arsenal.

reply to post by deviant300


It would depend on what type of war.

-But I know of a cave North of here (North coast of Vancouver Island)

Rumored to be 2 km with branches. Very few know of its location, on a hot day a cold wind blows out of it. I made it to the waterfall. about 50 feet in. (I wasn't dressed or prepared for spelunking)
-After that there's a 20 ft drop off (waterfall) but it gets more tame. (apparently)

If the # hit (and # would have to hit hard) My 1st prep might be securing it

Gen set (diesel)
And essential cave surviving items, ie: light and appropriate clothing.

Location location location!

Originally posted by Gazrok
The strike on Syria will happen. Obama has said as much. But, WW3 will not be a result of it. Simply put, no other nation has the resources to wage it.

You ever played Poker?

What happens when you run low on chips? You go "all in"..

Best preparation would be to get drunk and raise a toast to humanity. In the event of all out nuclear war options are very limited. Maybe at a push move to Australia

reply to post by Mister_Bit


Doesn't matter. Other nations simply don't have the delivery mechanisms (i.e. numerous carrier groups and worldwide bases) to wage a conventional world war. It's simple logistics.

As for nukes, Russia knows it will have to launch huge salvos at key targets in order to defeat the missile defense system. This will greatly reduce the amount of targets they can count on. China doesn't even have enough to take on more than a handful of targets with any hope of success. Oh, we'll suffer a catastrophic loss, no doubt, but the US is SPREAD OUT. In Russia and China, we have very limited targets and a TON of nukes (and more in reserve). So, after their "all in" strike, we're still kicking. After our strike, there is NOTHING left of either Russian or Chinese infrastructure or command and control. And, they KNOW this of course, which is why it won't happen.

Still doesn't mean Syria is a good idea. It's a lose/lose move, that I wish I knew why the hell we were making. Makes no tactical sense whatsoever, so obviously, they know something we don't. Still, if they actually stated their objectives, and issued a timeline for meeting them, I think the American people would buy into it. What is more frightening though, is that they simply don't CARE what the public thinks this time. It doesn't even seem to be a factor.

reply to post by On the level

Best preparation would be to get drunk and raise a toast to humanity. In the event of all out nuclear war options are very limited. Maybe at a push move to Australia

Research it.

Look up what your nearest target would be.
Then, go to nukemap.com and put in the target, along with a 5 megaton warhead. See if you are even in the radiation zone.

Originally posted by Gazrok
reply to post by On the level

 

Best preparation would be to get drunk and raise a toast to humanity. In the event of all out nuclear war options are very limited. Maybe at a push move to Australia

Research it.

Look up what your nearest target would be.
Then, go to nukemap.com and put in the target, along with a 5 megaton warhead. See if you are even in the radiation zone.

Nukemap.com is an available domain name. Nothing there.

Think this is the one....
nuclearsecrecy.com...

reply to post by greavsie1971


That's the one. Program is still called nukemap, just changed site.

We live in the megalopolis. We have to shelter in place. There is no getting away from people or targets. We have bugout bags, but sheltering in place is the best we can do. Our preparations? A few months worth of supplies and the means to protect them. That's it. That's the best we can do. Enough to get us past a 'bump' but not enough to get us through the entire war.

reply to post by deviant300


instead of "bugging out" why not stay at home?
you have a roof over your head and storage space for blankets, food, books, candles etc.

regardless if you head to the wilderness or stay in your home is you would need a fire arm. self preservation above all else I would think.

would staying home be that bad?

In the event of an all out nuke/bio/chem/EMP event the living will envy the dead.

Even worrying about it is pointless so......

It's one day at a time and make every day a damn party.

Don't become addicted to "doom porn" as it's ugly and will only make you depressed.

I'm olaru12 and I'm a recovering "doom porn" addict....

I am trust no one. I too used to enjoy" dooms Porn ". Now it just all seem like bs.. I hate to get all worked up over bs. Who really knows what's going to happen, honestly all anyone cam do is speculate. Not like our government would tell the public.

reply to post by Gazrok


I live not 5 miles from Faslane naval base where all the British nukes are kept. There isn't many options in Scotland

This sounds completely bogus. For one thing, the Russians don't have enough nukes active and ready to hit all those targets. For another, the missile defense system will take out quite a number, and I'm sure that wasn't factored in. Third, there are HUGE swathes of the nation with no significant targets at all, and these would be largely untouched. Finally, today's nukes are WAY less in magnitude of those at the height of the Cold War. On average, they are in the 2-5mt range. Hardly enough for the massive amounts of fallout suggested. Also, the initial 48 hours is the worst fallout time. After that, it goes down exponentially. With the right circumstances and preps, those far enough away from major target centers stand an excellent chance of living through even a full Russian nuke strike, with their current arsenal.

This is for the most part correct however most WWIII training situations have first a cyber attack, then chemical weapons and finally nuclear attacks. Most of the cyber attack situations are well over my head although the Defense department and State feel any attack on America would start this way. I wish I knew more about this but I am told this is possible-to knock out America's ability to respond and get pass the missile shield that way.

reply to post by spooky24


Independent systems, have been since the Cold War. So, not likely. Other C&C sure, but the nuke launch? Nope, that's old school.

reply to post by On the level


Yep, you're doomed. A 5mt blast on that base....



But, you could make a run for it, if you knew it was coming.