"It's Time to take Assad Out"....There I said it !

reply to post by whyamIhere


Disinfo agents out in full force to try and persuade the public to back this scam/action.

If the UN operated the way it should, there should have been missiles launched by several countries including China and Russia at Syria's stockpiled chemical weapons depot. It shouldn't be done just by the west. The attack should only be on the stockpile. The last thing you want is to support either side in this conflict.

Both the east and west need to put their political differences aside and act unilaterally against countries who ignore international law. It should also be done quickly not a week or two later. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that Syria's military has moved their stockpile of chemical weapons as soon as they heard about a possible missile attack. There's a division in the UN between the east and west. Until both sides work together, the idea of the UN enforcing international law will always be controlled by the bullies. There's no "United Nations."

reply to post by whyamIhere


I am not convinced Assad did it. Sure the Washington bigwigs have got the media cheerleaders behind them trying to make everyone think he is the culprit, but this thing about he did it, because I said so doesn't fly with me so well since I became an adult. Show me proof! For all we know the rebels could have done it trying to drag us into this battle.

If we are not willing to take out Assad we should do nothing.

That's the point of the OP...Nobody gives a damn about the Syrian people.

100,000 dead and we are talking about blowing up some runways.

Seems we are using a Yahtzee scorecard Foreign Policy.

reply to post by WeRpeons


Makes complete sense to blow up all there chemical weapons, releasing the poisons killing millions

Originally posted by InquisitiveMind2012
For once America, why don't you try and sort out your own problems instead of the Worlds problems?
You cannot even take care of your own people so what makes you think that you can take care of the World.?
I am British and for once, I am glad we gave you the middle finger on this.

When you say America, do you mean it's government or it's people in general, because they are not the same. Just like you may not agree with your Prime Minister (who you guys gave the middle finger to, not us) we don't always agree with our leaders either. Most Americans do not want another war. We've been played so many times in the past that many of us are no longer buying what they are selling us and we are tired of it!

Originally posted by InquisitiveMind2012
I think the USA should mind their own business.
How does America know for sure that the Syrian Government used Chemical Weapons?
I believe Assad when he says that the rebels are responsible so let his Government
take care of this in any way they see fit.
Besides, what business is it of America to go around, ordering a Country that is fighting a War
within it's own Country?
Syria is not threatening the World so let them fight it out in their way.

The World does not belong to America and they need to learn that any country which has tried to rule
the World, has failed. The Romans failed. Hitler failed.
What is America going to do if Syria's Allies decide to attack them?
Russia could and probably will destroy most of America.
For once America, why don't you try and sort out your own problems instead of the Worlds problems?
You cannot even take care of your own people so what makes you think that you can take care of the World.?
I am British and for once, I am glad we gave you the middle finger on this.
I think America is about to the put the nail in her own coffin.

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according to most around here, the people failing are the same group. if at first you don't succeed... n all that,

Originally posted by whyamIhere
Why are we looking for any other answer? It's obvious...

This man is War Criminal...Why should any more people die?

He is killing his own people. He has broken several International Laws.

He should be the sole target. Where the hell is Seal Team 5...Bet they are ready..

We want this man to stop killing his people. So we decide we will protest by killing his people.

We have used drones on American Citizen's. Why would we hesitate blowing this guy away?

He is not worth one more life on either side. Kill or Capture, preferably the first one.

PS. Don't tell me he is a leader of a Country...Remember Saddam and Qaddafi?...

You are a complete bubble head kool aid drinker. You are being told lies, and believe every word - go educate yourself.

The US has used chemical weapons multiple times in the last 10 years, and has also used depleted uranian which is far worse because it keeps on giving, long after the war is ended, causing birth defects and cancer.

Syria has been invaded by TERRORISTS - sponsored by the US, Britain, Saudi and Qatar - they are in large part Al Quiada, some are just mercenaries - but many are also other Islamic fundamentalist factions.

Assad had a secular state, in which Christians, Jews, Muslims and other religions dwelt together in relative peace. Now the incoming terrorists are massacring Christians and Jews and any religious Muslim sect with which they disagree.

If Assad falls, then all these different terrorist factions will fight with each other and there will be no peace, just ongoing murder and civil wars.

Assad is being framed by false flags designed inside the US and Saudi - who are supplying CHEMICAL WEAPONS to the rebels in order to create a justification for US intervention.

Yes thats what I said, it is the US CIA who are supplying the chemical weapons and getting the rebels to use them, along with Mossad and Saudi covert agents.

Your information comes from the MSM - it is pure lies and propaganda - go and do the necessary research.

The US wants to attack Syria so it can gain control over the gas pipelines that run through it now, and also have access to future pipelines coming out of Qatar and heading into Europe. These pipelines are important for the western powers so they can undermine the Russian supply of gas into Europe.

They also intend to send the oil price to the moon to create starvation throughout the world, and to create such global chaos that allows them press towards a one world govt.

You know basically nothing, and it is perfectily obvious that you question nothing you are told by your dear leaders and their propaganda arm the MSM - you are a mindless zombie drone, wake up or be on the wrong side of the coming internal war in the US.

The western powers intend for the US to suffer an economic collapse, and they intend that nobody will be willing to help you because of all the hatred that the US has caused with its aggressive wars - the western powers want you to starve to death.

If they succeed in Syria, they know that Iran and Syria will effectively cut off oil to the world, sending oil prices to unheard of levels and crushing the western economies - they dont care, they already own the gold, real estate and natural resources - they want to concentrate their political power and cull the world population through starvation.

Believe me, if their is a war with Syria and Iran, they will shut off the oil - and oil may go to $500 or more a barrel - this will crash the world. Food prices will skyrocket and people will starve - that is what you are asking for - your own death.

reply to post by whyamIhere


...you think the country will be better off with him dead? We should leave tgem be and stay out. Yeah he's a bad guybut without him Syria is just another destabilized terrorist haven and the people will suffer much more and so will the rest of the world.

We ahould have never got involved but the worst part is the fact that we supportes al qeada and because of that civilians died.

reply to post by InquisitiveMind2012


Why is US government acting as a world police?

Because the agenda is to establish a One World Government. Every president since George Herbert Walker Bush have been saying this.
If anyone pays attention to the News, listen to how political elites always talk about instaling a democratic friendly government. It is neatly hidden inbetween the rhetoric.

reply to post by Amagnon


Im going to have to correct you on a couple of things first this was started during the arab spring. People took to the streets in protest it was peaceful at first until well President Bashar al-Assad went to far. People were complaining about his brutality and asking for his dismissal his answer send soldiers in to the streets to shoot them.However this backfired as alot of the military immediately started supporting the people. And the rebel group was formed and the war started. This wasnt the United States Britain or even the Saudis. Now after the war went on for a while then civilians were actually massacred by President Bashar al-Assad And the Saudis saw this as an attack on Sunnis since lets face it it was.The bath party will do anything they can to maintain control to them shia is being pushed out of the middle east. And when the Saudis took interest making it a religious thing so did groups like al Qaeda and the Muslim brotherhood which quickly hijacking control of the rebels. Because lets face it there was no leadership just a group of very pissed off people mad enough to fight.

So even though i agree the United States need to stay out of this lets not make Bashar al-Assad a humanitarian or being picked on. Truth be told he created these problems with his brutality and mis treatment of his citizens people dont fight and die because they dont like something they only do this when they have been given no other choice.The United States role in this should be to keep everyone out of it including the Muslim brother hood, Al qaeda, Saudi Arabia,Russia and Iran.Ill say in no way did the US want this to occur because instability in the middle east just isnt good for business.

Originally posted by dragonridr
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Im going to have to correct you on a couple of things first this was started during the arab spring. People took to the streets in protest it was peaceful at first until well President Bashar al-Assad went to far. People were complaining about his brutality and asking for his dismissal his answer send soldiers in to the streets to shoot them.However this backfired as alot of the military immediately started supporting the people. And the rebel group was formed and the war started. This wasnt the United States Britain or even the Saudis. Now after the war went on for a while then civilians were actually massacred by President Bashar al-Assad And the Saudis saw this as an attack on Sunnis since lets face it it was.The bath party will do anything they can to maintain control to them shia is being pushed out of the middle east. And when the Saudis took interest making it a religious thing so did groups like al Qaeda and the Muslim brotherhood which quickly hijacking control of the rebels. Because lets face it there was no leadership just a group of very pissed off people mad enough to fight.

So even though i agree the United States need to stay out of this lets not make Bashar al-Assad a humanitarian or being picked on. Truth be told he created these problems with his brutality and mis treatment of his citizens people dont fight and die because they dont like something they only do this when they have been given no other choice.The United States role in this should be to keep everyone out of it including the Muslim brother hood, Al qaeda, Saudi Arabia,Russia and Iran.Ill say in no way did the US want this to occur because instability in the middle east just isnt good for business.

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Assad is no saint, but you have no idea what you are talking about - the US planned the invasion of Syria more than 10yrs ago. They have been spending on terrorists in Syria for more than 2 years, Qatar has been funding terrorists in Syria for more than 3 years, and last year spent $3 billion on the Syrian terrorists.

You need to go and do some research - your airy idea's about the innocence of the US govt is based on a paradigm provided to you by the MSM, your education and the ongoing psychological war waged against the truth.

Iran selling oil for gold is killing the western powers, they need it to stop - but it is already probably too late. Now they just want to blame someone else for the upcoming economic collapse.

Originally posted by Amagnon

Originally posted by whyamIhere
Why are we looking for any other answer? It's obvious...

This man is War Criminal...Why should any more people die?

He is killing his own people. He has broken several International Laws.

He should be the sole target. Where the hell is Seal Team 5...Bet they are ready..

We want this man to stop killing his people. So we decide we will protest by killing his people.

We have used drones on American Citizen's. Why would we hesitate blowing this guy away?

He is not worth one more life on either side. Kill or Capture, preferably the first one.

PS. Don't tell me he is a leader of a Country...Remember Saddam and Qaddafi?...

The US wants to attack Syria so it can gain control over the gas pipelines that run through it now, and also have access to future pipelines coming out of Qatar and heading into Europe. These pipelines are important for the western powers so they can undermine the Russian supply of gas into Europe.

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Minor correction.

Its as much about preventing the proposed Gas pipeline being constructed from Iran to Europe via Iraq - Syria and Lebanon. All parties agreed to its construction. (Why wouldn't Iraq?, its majority Shia and has more in common with these states than the gulf Arabs. Nice one neocons....)

Such a project strengthens all the countries involved. All the Shia controlled countries involved. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out who would work together to find a way to prevent this happening.

As always in the middle east its about oil/gas and the sectarian divide.

reply to post by whyamIhere


Because it is time the US stops poking it fingers up other countries b_t_s, it is high time the US begins to mind its own business

Getting involved this time will mean WWIII

Originally posted by whyamIhere
Why are we looking for any other answer? It's obvious...
This man is War Criminal...Why should any more people die?

And who replaces him? The Muslim Brotherhood. Their goal is an Islamic caliphate achieved through bloody means. Assad is bad. The 'rebels' are just as bad, perhaps even worse. I say .. leave 'em be. Let them all kill each other. Why stop it?

Originally posted by whyamIhere
If we are not willing to take out Assad we should do nothing.

That's the point of the OP...Nobody gives a damn about the Syrian people.

100,000 dead and we are talking about blowing up some runways.

Seems we are using a Yahtzee scorecard Foreign Policy.

The Syrian people are not babies.

Once their civil war is over, they can and should prosecute the perps

The middle easterners have killed themselves and others for hundreds (correction - thousands) of years

If the past 12 years have proved anything, it is that no matter what the US does the radical muslims and middle easterners will continue killing each other in horrendous ways no matter what the US does or does not do

It is high time the US got out of the world policeman business

Originally posted by Bassago
GWB and Cheney are war criminals as well. .

If Obama bombs Syria then you can put Mr. Nobel Peace Prize at the top of your 'criminal' list.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by Bassago
GWB and Cheney are war criminals as well. .

If Obama bombs Syria then you can put Mr. Nobel Peace Prize at the top of your 'criminal' list.

You are so right!

The US has appointed itself the policeman of the world, without being asked, without being wanted, without the support of the majority of the rest of the world. Time we stop being the bully on the block who thinks he knows best. Better yet time we stop being Zimmerman (self appointed police) to the Trayvons (proven criminal, but it was not Zimmerman's job to kill him).

To the OP .. why should we take Assad out?
This whole thing in Syria is about geo-political oil/gas pipeline issues and religion.
Muslims killing other Muslims because they aren't the 'right' kind of Muslims.

ATS Thread - Syria - It's all about Religion and Oil

They're playing the long game. I can see America attacking and being the "bad guy" for a short while until "Syria" launches a terrorist attack in either the US or Israel.
Then all hell breaks loose, marshal law, kurfews and obviously zombies.
Seriously though when you read CNN latest "news" headlines of how Syria could retaliate if the US attacks, to me at least it just smells of being a set up for false terrorist attacks.