The Transfiguration of Miley Cyrus

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Let me tell you a story.

A man becomes a super star because he has some singing ability.

He has a daughter. This daughter is raised with a silver spoon in her mouth.

Disney takes notice as they always do and create a promotional honey pot for money.

Teen breaks free from Disney and starts acting out, since she has no real rules or sense of accomplishment.

This is the story of Miley Cyrus and her problem is not the music industry.

Her problem, is that she's a spoiled little brat, whose parents didn't do their due diligence.

~Tenth

The release of some fairly nude photographs of Miley a little while back was probably prelude to this out break, its embryonic condition. Although they were presented in some sort of....whatever they call it in photographic "art", a sort of expose on the youthful innocents, a transformation stage, "avant-garde" soft child porn to be sure now. Early manifestations of a condition of some sort.

And did you read her dads tweet he put out the next day? A man in full denial, defection mode, guilty party and/or a man bought sold or blackmailed.

Im sure many share my view which is .... Huh (?) War, corruption, money failing, lack of respect for each other... So yea, lets concentrate on another teen who obviously is doing teen things and what society has turned our teens into... Just wonderful. That's great.... Ummmm yea

How about you concentrate on your village and helping those that need it.

Originally posted by abeverage

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Let me tell you a story.

A man becomes a super star because he has some singing ability.

He has a daughter. This daughter is raised with a silver spoon in her mouth.

Disney takes notice as they always do and create a promotional honey pot for money.

Teen breaks free from Disney and starts acting out, since she has no real rules or sense of accomplishment.

This is the story of Miley Cyrus and her problem is not the music industry.

Her problem, is that she's a spoiled little brat, whose parents didn't do their due diligence.

~Tenth

Gotta WHOLE HEARTED Disagree with you Tenth...

Miley might act out but this was planned by her managers and handlers. Miley didn't *poof* strip her clothes off from what they had planned for her and be unique and wild this was already COMPLETELY planned...

Maybe it was the "Madona" Svengali at work. She was probably an influence of sorts or at some time. If your big really big, you gotta make out with that scank on stage at some point, the predator bi sexual creature.

Originally posted by BBobb
The Transfiguration of Hannah Montana


There is something that has been bothering me as it relates to a scheme that has been portrayed upon the morality of our nation, an insidious ploy designed and executed with the sole purpose of the destruction of innocence within our youth. For sometime now I have had difficulty seeing the machinations of this plan clearly, though the auspices of its design ruminated around the recesses of my mind. With the recent declaration of demagogic debauchery displayed by Miley Cyrus at this year’s MTV Video Music Awards, a light bulb went off in my head, and for the first time I was able to see with greater clarity the deviant design behind our modern day teen idols.

For the purpose of this article, I will focus primarily on our young female idols and their effect upon the teen and pre-teen girls of the country, though the male equivalent is certainly just as prolific and culturally malignant in both scope and intention. One thing that I observed with this most recent fall of an innocent teen idol is the similitude of the playbook relaying again and again this likewise narrative. Like Brittany Spears before her, Cyrus was presented to the girls of America, and more importantly to the parents thereof, as a model of innocence and girlish frivolity. Few parents objected to the enthusiasm found within their young daughters for this giggling mascot of purity, lauded by society and displayed within the sanctified and trusted realm of Disney. Just as Brittany Spears made her entrée onto the world stage as a Mouseketeer, so too was Cyrus introduced to our daughters and permitted into our homes under the guise of cultural innocence that has been the banner of Disney, cemented in the national consciousness established by Walt and his loveable band of characters such as Mickey, Minnie, Pluto and Goofy. With the passage of its namesake and the inevitable change through time, America has lost the thread of cultural degeneracy that has occurred in our most stalwart institutions like Disney. As market demands and pressures have coalesced to create the largest media empire on Earth, the typical American exists in a false state of nostalgia of times long since passed and replaced by ruthless competitive forces devoid of moral consideration where the heir of Walt, Michael Eisner, has slaughtered and cooked the likes of Donald Duck and made Dumbos of us all.

One might rightly ask, why would a conglomerate like Disney purposefully bring down a model of innocence such as Cyrus? There could be many such reasons. One reason is the revenue sustainability of an established figure within a “captured” audience. As Cyrus ages and becomes less palatable to the next generation of teen and pre-teen girls, it is perhaps better to bring her established fan base along through an ever evolving career that allows for the continual return on investment into maturity rather than discard her and start anew with the next selected idol. Hannah Montana, like all fads, simply would not engender the endurance necessary for another decade of sustainment. Twerking Miley Cyrus, however, brings a fresh modality of appeal to an ever increasing society of decadence and thereby increased cultural life to a fruit otherwise squeezed dry....

Did you just attempt to make a serious "intelligent" post about Miley Cyrus?

The fact that you're focused on her at all suggests that you're no different from the millions of saps that are tweeting about her twerking in the first place.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe when young girls grow up to be sexy women, that it's not a f***ing conspiracy? Did you ever think that maybe Miley Cyrus is 20 f***ing years old now, and that she's a full fledged adult woman? She grew out of her kiddy stage and she's an adult. I don't see anything else more complicated behind it. She doesn't want to be associated with the whole Disney kiddy-purity thing anymore and I don't blame her. She wants to be herself and create her own image. I fail to see how that is a conspiracy.

Who gives a s*** if she's "lost her innocence". Did you ever see the South Park episode where Britney Spears blew her head off? Then they all were talking about who the next child star victim to lose her innocence would be and they looked at the TV at the end of the episode and Hannah Montana was on? We all saw this coming for years. The moment Hannah Montana grew in popularity, everyone instantly said, "Oh here comes another Britney Spears mousketeer-turned-crazed-child-star". Why act so surprised when it finally happens? I don't understand you people. What she did, and how she danced, is NO different from how 99% of 20 year old girls dance in clubs every night all over the world. But because we saw her on TV as a kid, we latch on to that digital image of her, frozen at a young and pure age. Guess what? Reality is, she's no different than us.

reply to post by BBobb


Yeah, shocking. But, the performance has instantly (within hours of the show) bagged her a second US #1 this year. It's actually clever marketing releasing the brand-new single on iTunes while the VMAs was on.

It is a shame i cannot un-watch it. Even Drake was looking down

Originally posted by Kody27

Originally posted by BBobb
The Transfiguration of Hannah Montana


There is something that has been bothering me as it relates to a scheme that has been portrayed upon the morality of our nation, an insidious ploy designed and executed with the sole purpose of the destruction of innocence within our youth. For sometime now I have had difficulty seeing the machinations of this plan clearly, though the auspices of its design ruminated around the recesses of my mind. With the recent declaration of demagogic debauchery displayed by Miley Cyrus at this year’s MTV Video Music Awards, a light bulb went off in my head, and for the first time I was able to see with greater clarity the deviant design behind our modern day teen idols.

Did you just attempt to make a serious "intelligent" post about Miley Cyrus?

The fact that you're focused on her at all suggests that you're no different from the millions of saps that are tweeting about her twerking in the first place.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe when young girls grow up to be sexy women, that it's not a f***ing conspiracy? Did you ever think that maybe Miley Cyrus is 20 f***ing years old now, and that she's a full fledged adult woman? She grew out of her kiddy stage and she's an adult. I don't see anything else more complicated behind it. She doesn't want to be associated with the whole Disney kiddy-purity thing anymore and I don't blame her. She wants to be herself and create her own image. I fail to see how that is a conspiracy.

Who gives a s*** if she's "lost her innocence". Did you ever see the South Park episode where Britney Spears blew her head off? Then they all were talking about who the next child star victim to lose her innocence would be and they looked at the TV at the end of the episode and Hannah Montana was on? We all saw this coming for years. The moment Hannah Montana grew in popularity, everyone instantly said, "Oh here comes another Britney Spears mousketeer-turned-crazed-child-star". Why act so surprised when it finally happens? I don't understand you people. What she did, and how she danced, is NO different from how 99% of 20 year old girls dance in clubs every night all over the world. But because we saw her on TV as a kid, we latch on to that digital image of her, frozen at a young and pure age. Guess what? Reality is, she's no different than us.

Fair enough but we should remember that not every young woman out there wants to be and act like this. It really isn't "everybody in the USA" as they suppose. And oh my how they love to suppose.

As well folks focus on the behavior of the "Hollywood" product, of the machine. Never question the machine that much. A machine that has a board, folks making decisions about their product, its sales and defense. When the time is right these folks will start making movies, regular movies about anything, with full blown pornographic sex bits. Who knows what already goes on with some of these "super" stars during private live performances. This isn't even about growing up and coming out of the shell. This is about being part of and playing a role for a messed up culture of deranged sexuality, meat mechanics, salesman of lust and then blaming the culture for most of its development of this market.

reply to post by Kody27

What she did, and how she danced, is NO different from how 99% of 20 year old girls dance in clubs every night all over the world.

THAT is the problem I have with it. Why have we taught our girls that they have to act like this to be "sexy"? I'm no prude, but this is very sad. I'm so glad I don't have daughters. Now I just hope my sons grow up to realize that trashy does not equal TRUE sexiness.

Originally posted by GeorgiaGirl
reply to post by Kody27

 

What she did, and how she danced, is NO different from how 99% of 20 year old girls dance in clubs every night all over the world.

THAT is the problem I have with it. Why have we taught our girls that they have to act like this to be "sexy"? I'm no prude, but this is very sad. I'm so glad I don't have daughters. Now I just hope my sons grow up to realize that trashy does not equal TRUE sexiness.

When your sons get horny enough they will first go through their fall of trying to find the easy ones before they become men and want the classy ones. It's like driving a car....can't own one all your life, you gotta test drive a few before you find the one you love.

reply to post by Skywatcher2011


I knew many "easy ones" (sluts) in high school that at least tried to appear like they had some morals and a sense of decency.
Yea, some would even swat your hand away at least twice and say "doooont" (while smiling ear to ear) before yanking their shirts off

Originally posted by Sharingan
reply to post by Skywatcher2011

 

I knew many "easy ones" (sluts) in high school that at least tried to appear like they had some morals and a sense of decency.
Yea, some would even swat your hand away at least twice and say "doooont" (while smiling ear to ear) before yanking their shirts off

edit on 29-8-2013 by Sharingan because: (no reason given)

I found that girls in private schools were the more "classy in the street but a freak in the bed" type. Too bad Miley chose the "freak in the street, and who knows what in the bed" path.

You people are reading too much into this. she's no different than any other person trying to reinvent themselves.

It looks like she's just trying to break out of the Mold she was cast in. Imagine spending most of your young life pretending to be a cute, pure innocent little girl. Constantly being expected to keep that image up everywhere you go, even with your own family.

Maybe she's telling all of us, and her father, that she's a grown woman who can make her own choices and be who she wants to be. The bigger the shock, the faster people will let go of their old and outdated image of her and see her true personality.

She cast her old boring fake persona in the fire and is radically renewing herself. What, you expected her to be a cute little silly girl for the rest of her life?

reply to post by BBobb


I'm right there with you bob and I agree 1000%.

People only cite the obvious reasons for this behavior which are the marketing and money making aspects but there is something more sinister going on which many people are insanely oblivious to. This is it in a nutshell:

Miley’s VMA performance is about a child star who was beloved by millions of young people showing what the industry has done to her. It is about shattering the innocence of her fans by having them witness her metamorphosis into one giant sex-obsessed caricature. Her oversexualized demeanor was characteristic of a Beta programming slave who had the switch turned “on”. Dressed and styled to look like a bratty child, jumping around with giant teddy bears, Miley’s performance was all about getting a negative reaction from the public while continuing the ongoing agenda of sexualizing everything that is related to childhood.

vigilantcitizen.com... vigilantcitizen.com...

Miley is now working with Britney Spears' ex manager Larry Rudolph and is signed under the same label (RCA) as artists Britney and the princess of symbolism, (Gaga is the queen) Ke$hia. Makes you go hummm.

Her father Billy Ray Cyrus saw the imminent danger of being affiliated with the Disney family years ago:

In an article published in 2011, Miley’s father Billy Ray Cyrus stated that her handlers (that’s the word he used) cut him out of the loop and told him to “mind his business”. Like other industry slaves, Miley has no contact with her family. In the interview, Billy Ray added that “Satan was attacking his family” that he was afraid to see her go down the same tragic path as Anna Nicole Smith (a Beta Kitten slave) and Michael Jackson (killed by the industry).

vigilantcitizen.com...

He even said that his younger daughter was once made to dress up like a dominatrix at age 10 for a party.
This is what he stated in his own words:

Billy Ray didn’t place all the blame on those currently in Miley’s life. "There are also evil forces at work", he claimed.

Billy said his family was under attack by Satan and was scared for Miley back in 2011

Bob know that you are not alone even though you have met, and will continue to encounter resistance towards this dilemma. Stay up on the corruption that is being enforced by these powers upon society. I will do the same. Of course there will still be those who oppose but embedding this into the backs of conscious minds is a start towards potential awareness.

Kudos, TrueMessiah

reply to post by whatnext21

Oh and she did not seem to be one bit ashamed of her performance and carried on with gusto. I am surprised she didn't strip down further and have sex with, who was that guy anyway, was it Robin Thick and was he in on the act too?

I wonder what her parents would say? I would really like to hear the justification of how it's ok to see your daughter simulating dirty sex in front of millions of people. For what? money and adoration is this is how she was taught to feel loved?(edit) I just read Billy Ray's interview, at least he has some sense of what's happening with her. I am curious about the mother's take on all this I know as a mother I would be mortified
It would be interesting to interview the parent's of the children at that concert as well...What the heck where they thinking?
What's up with her tongue?

Originally posted by GeorgiaGirl
reply to post by Kody27

 

What she did, and how she danced, is NO different from how 99% of 20 year old girls dance in clubs every night all over the world.

THAT is the problem I have with it. Why have we taught our girls that they have to act like this to be "sexy"? I'm no prude, but this is very sad. I'm so glad I don't have daughters. Now I just hope my sons grow up to realize that trashy does not equal TRUE sexiness.

I'm with you on that, It's not just about parenting in the entertainment industry. They use these children and yes I don't think her behavior equals being an adult as some seem to think. We have been desensitized by the media throughout the years to come to accept this kind of behavior, yep no big deal! From the very beginning of television we have slowly been desensitized to sexual content.

In my eyes it is a big deal as I said before I would be mortified if that was one of my children(male or female)on stage in front of millions acting grossly sexualized. Madonna was doing it and was never a fan of hers, but my question is why does sex have to play a big role in everything in the media?
Just look at advertising they can't advertise a mop or toothbrush without including sex in it.

Until parents start acting like parents and not acting like their kids friends as well as demanding better standards from the entertainment industry the shock factor will continue. How about parents protesting these concerts instead of buying tickets for their children?

Originally posted by Sharingan
reply to post by tothetenthpower

 

Teen breaks free from Disney and starts acting out, since she has no real rules or sense of accomplishment.

No, I think Disney IS the problem. How many Disney girls have been "transformed" over the years? Lindsy Lohan, Britney Spears, Demi Lovato etc..
Im still holding my breath for Selena Gomez.. Oh wait, she fell for Justina Bieberman, that was her crash

A fair point. But I think that's only more striking and shocking to people because it is a transformation.


If Miley Cyrus only became famous last month, and the wild style, and the video, and the VMA performance were in the last few weeks-- the product of a new and unknown artist-- I don't think anyone would be that shocked. Plenty of pop stars do this stuff.


But because a few years ago she was "Hannah Montana" everyone is freaking out. It's like watching any little girl you knew from the time she was barely a toddler grow up into a wild, sexually active young woman. Peoples' parenting instinct causes a weird, unpleasant reaction to seeing something like that. Some dumb, dumb part of your brain expected her to remain an innocent child forever. Not an uncommon reaction. Just an unreasonable one.


The fact is that kids grow up. And often times when they do, they seem to lose a little bit of their innocence. Sometimes they become more "wild." Happens this way with normal kids-- not just with pop stars. But because this happens to so many average kids, this creates a dilemma for a pop star like Miley. Even if she wasn't just growing up, and wanting to express more mature ideas and attitudes in her music (which is probably the case) the fact is that many of her existing fans are now going through this same transformation. So coming out with the "Hannah Montana Album -- Miley's 18 Edition" would probably only decrease her fan base and record sales. Sure, they could try to market her to a new generation of young kids.... but just like adults get that weird reaction to seeing their innocent child pop stars grow up, kids tend to empathize more with people their own age, going through the same things. So an adult Miley could never develop or maintain the kid fanbase that she already has / grew.

Originally posted by Mr Headshot
reply to post by LeatherNLace

 

Dunno, I never got mostly naked and danced in front of a crowd as a kid. Guess I'm just a puritan, I didn't even drink until I was 18, and I didn't party. Yep, I may as well be Amish.

Except Miley's not a "kid." She's 20 years old, almost 21.

Wait, and you drank at 18 years old? That's illegal where I live (drinking age is 21) so I consider that wrong. What you did was too wild for your age. You should have been more innocent.

reply to post by iwilliam

Wait, and you drank at 18 years old? That's illegal where I live (drinking age is 21)

Hasnt always been 21. I know I was about 2 years from 18 when my state changed it to 21

Originally posted by Logarock

Originally posted by Kody27

Originally posted by BBobb
The Transfiguration of Hannah Montana


There is something that has been bothering me as it relates to a scheme that has been portrayed upon the morality of our nation, an insidious ploy designed and executed with the sole purpose of the destruction of innocence within our youth. For sometime now I have had difficulty seeing the machinations of this plan clearly, though the auspices of its design ruminated around the recesses of my mind. With the recent declaration of demagogic debauchery displayed by Miley Cyrus at this year’s MTV Video Music Awards, a light bulb went off in my head, and for the first time I was able to see with greater clarity the deviant design behind our modern day teen idols.

Did you just attempt to make a serious "intelligent" post about Miley Cyrus?

The fact that you're focused on her at all suggests that you're no different from the millions of saps that are tweeting about her twerking in the first place.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe when young girls grow up to be sexy women, that it's not a f***ing conspiracy? Did you ever think that maybe Miley Cyrus is 20 f***ing years old now, and that she's a full fledged adult woman? She grew out of her kiddy stage and she's an adult. I don't see anything else more complicated behind it. She doesn't want to be associated with the whole Disney kiddy-purity thing anymore and I don't blame her. She wants to be herself and create her own image. I fail to see how that is a conspiracy.

Who gives a s*** if she's "lost her innocence". Did you ever see the South Park episode where Britney Spears blew her head off? Then they all were talking about who the next child star victim to lose her innocence would be and they looked at the TV at the end of the episode and Hannah Montana was on? We all saw this coming for years. The moment Hannah Montana grew in popularity, everyone instantly said, "Oh here comes another Britney Spears mousketeer-turned-crazed-child-star". Why act so surprised when it finally happens? I don't understand you people. What she did, and how she danced, is NO different from how 99% of 20 year old girls dance in clubs every night all over the world. But because we saw her on TV as a kid, we latch on to that digital image of her, frozen at a young and pure age. Guess what? Reality is, she's no different than us.

Fair enough but we should remember that not every young woman out there wants to be and act like this. It really isn't "everybody in the USA" as they suppose. And oh my how they love to suppose.

As well folks focus on the behavior of the "Hollywood" product, of the machine. Never question the machine that much. A machine that has a board, folks making decisions about their product, its sales and defense. When the time is right these folks will start making movies, regular movies about anything, with full blown pornographic sex bits. Who knows what already goes on with some of these "super" stars during private live performances. This isn't even about growing up and coming out of the shell. This is about being part of and playing a role for a messed up culture of deranged sexuality, meat mechanics, salesman of lust and then blaming the culture for most of its development of this market.

I don't think it's different than anything that's been going on in the past thousand years. It's part of the Ophidian current, it's the cosmic sexy snake monster creeping its way through humanity. Don't really think anyone planned for it, it just is.

Miley is uneducated. I don't think she even finished high school.

Her smooth-talking money-grubbing handlers probably convinced her that it was "Art". And, we all know that if you do it for ART, it's okay....(sarcasm intended.)

These poor girls are so easily manipulated. Plus, this generation equates success with a bigger and better bank account.

reply to post by BBobb


Or, an imature teenage girl, unstable from all the attention and fame suddenly had a buttload of a money and power and was the source of her own corruption.

There dosnt have to be a plan behind everything. This world is chaotic. A single persons choices can affect many. Did you not have a rebellious phase as a teen/young adult? Did you yourself not feel the need to test some limits and create a bit of chaos? I know that I sure as hell did.

I remember reading a study about how kids who were denied candy by their parents, would end up consuming loads and loads of candy, once their parents did not have the power to stop them from doing so.
Picture living your childhood life and most of your teenage life, being told how to behave properly, dont make scenes, always smile, always be good because of the spotlight and the focus on you. At some point you would want to release yourself from that and go find your own identity, grab control of your own life. Find yourself.

Even though I hate what Disney has become today, I have to say that Miley Cyrus is a human being just like the rest of us. And is subject to the human psychology, like the rest of us.