God Looks Upon the World

Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by backcase

 

I would also like to add that God is with the loving fathers of this world, because they do has he asked.

What about the MOTHERS, backcase?
Second-class citizens?
Yeah, we're the ones who bring new humans to this world - which is beautiful, and needs our care as much as our children do.

I don't believe backcase was insinuating that "Fathers" are the only ones deserving..... but that is just my opinion. Are you one of those super feminists?

reply to post by resoe26

Are you one of those super feminists?

No. Not in the slightest.
I am a stay-at-home empty-nester, and perfectly content to care for my husband and pets. My children are now "grown" (in their 20s, at least) - and I was a stay-at-home mom for them, too.

Yes, I worked - I was forced to, to make ends meet - but only when they were in school (I worked for the schools, and had the same holidays and summer off as they did)...

I left the work force in 2008 - bad timing? No - my father was dying, and my mom needed a respite from his 24/7 care. I said I would gladly go and stay with him/care for him while she took a week off over the New Year's holiday.

I put in for that MUCH NEEDED respite for her in July - and was told "No, you can't have that week off. Everyone works on NYE." That was told to me by the "super feminist" managers. It was absolute crap - and I resigned.

My priorities are family. Anyone who has a child "because their biological clock" says they should, or as a "status symbol" or "milestone", and then gives that child to someone else to raise is not doing their best as a parent, in my opinion. NOTHING trumps being an active part of a family.

I know backcase did it inadvertently - but sometimes the "patriarchal" speech of religion really annoys me.
The feminine is JUST AS IMPORTANT. Without women, the species would die out. With SILENCED and "captive" women - not allowed to make their own lives, but bowing to a man's will, HUMANITY is corrupted.

reply to post by wildtimes


Yes the woman is important. Jesus would not have been if not for his mother.

And when it came time for the first miracle, who initiated them with just a single glance.

Mary restored women in God's sight and as a man, I look up to her, and I do not find it wrong to. For she brought God to this world and I would also like to do the same.

She is a perfect example of virtue, or humility, of love, of family, of beautiful feminine beatitude.

reply to post by backcase

Mary restored women in God's sight

With all due respect, I don't think God ever thought women were "evil". I don't believe in "original sin" or "talking snakes."

Every species that has genders needs both - and women are not inherently evil. They are the peacekeepers, the nurturers, the comforters, the nest-builders. (I'm not talking about the super-fems or the psychos or the drama queens or the backstabbers or mean girls - yes, they exist, but they have strayed from their natural place, in my opinion.)

Anyway, I didn't mean to derail your thread, backcase. I think if there is a "conscious overseeing God", s/he would be VERY disappointed.

reply to post by wildtimes


The bible may have some things in it which are unbelievable but I think that they are in there for a reason.

Jesus' only comfort in this world was his mother, and she is the one who softens the blow of judgement upon the world. The pure mother made it possible for purity to thrive in this world. Before Mary there were no consecrated virgins, there were no people who could see God as they do and give God as they do. But God sees her in the heart of every mother and every lover.

But why do you say that God would be disappointed?

reply to post by backcase

But why do you say that God would be disappointed?

What's to be pleased with? All the bickering, boundaries, armies, greed, looting and pillaging of the planet's resources, mistreatment of animals and plants, the oceans, the grinding, hopeless poverty of so many millions and millions of people ---

There is enough food to feed everyone; but that doesn't happen. There is enough land to house everyone; yet that doesn't happen either. How is it we have so many empty "builts" (homes, warehouses, factories, storefronts) yet people are living under bridges in boxes?

Why do humans continue to destroy forests rather than reusing materials already used to "build" now unoccupied structures? Why are we destroying natural areas with pollution, fracking, drilling, poisoning, demolition, -- razing World Heritage sites and bombing each other?

It's sickening. This planet would be far better off without people on it. "Dominion"? NO! STEWARDSHIP, and regard for ALL LIFE, including this LIVING PLANET.

reply to post by wildtimes


Fair enough. You speak as the voice of the people.

Although what you say is correct, you have only seen the surface. You have seen what many people see in that the world and its people are corrupt and selfish. That there is a great injustice in the world and that people create more problems than they help.

That is the surface. That is what is easily seen.

What is beneath the surface are those who see that this is wrong, and they see in themselves the reason for this. Because what goes on in the world is similar to what goes on in us.

Inside we begin to see that we also are corrupt. But how can we forgive ourselves without forgiving the world? The world's sins are our sins. If we give mercy we shall receive mercy.

We start our part of the transformation in the world by starting the transformation in ourselves. Mercy is needed otherwise nothing would endure. God is the Just judge but God is also mercy. Jesus says to the Father to have mercy upon even his murderers, and it is given to them, that the may be given the chance to transform.

You may not see it, but it is there. And you can also be that catalyst in people by having mercy upon them.

reply to post by wildtimes


God knows that man is imperfect. God knows our hearts and has mercy.

reply to post by backcase


I have to disagree here. When I look inside myself, I do not see corruption. I am not to blame for all the bad things in this world, I am not to blame for what someone did thousands of years ago.

I was put into this world with everything around me already set up, and I hate the way the world is right now. It is those who are greedy and powerful who are to blame, not me or you. Yes, we should take responsibility for what we do, but for what WE do, not others who came before us.

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We are not separate, we are one, and we are forgiven by God.

Originally posted by backcase
God looks upon the world, and what does God see? How does God react? What does God feel?

God does not see the world. God sees what there is to see and hears what there is to hear.
God does not think it should be any different - God does not judge.

It is man who dislikes Gods creation, it is man who denies what God has provided. It is man who judges and is never satisfied.

Originally posted by Klassified
reply to post by resoe26

 

Christians... STOP PRAYING FOR MONEY if you do. That is just ignorant. According the the BIBLE, money is the root of ALL EVIL. Why would you pray for it then? and why in hell would God grant it to you.

1 Timothy 6:10

For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

Money is a thing. It has no intent. Good or bad. It just is. It is also a requirement to live under the present system. If a Christian needs money. There is no sin in asking the God they believe in to supply that money.

But it's often not out of need. There are very famous "prosperity gospel" preachers who teach that all Christians should be wealthy and own several sports cars.

The irony is the same as when I see Christians quote Ayn Rand. It's ridiculous.

reply to post by Cuervo

But it's often not out of need. There are very famous "prosperity gospel" preachers who teach that all Christians should be wealthy and own several sports cars.

Don't get me started on the mega-rich preachers.

Seriously though, prosperity is not anti-Christian, or anti-bible. Love of money and prosperity more than their god is though. Jesus was very clear that rich people would find it very hard to enter the kingdom of heaven, because the majority of them would choose their money over god.

Originally posted by backcase

 

To me I think that every good person has Jesus at heart. Jesus is He who spurs us to do good things. He is the perfection of our thoughts and actions.

But I do not want to get off topic.

I will say that as we look at the world we can see many things. We can see the hell that it is or the heaven that it is becoming.

I don't know where you are coming from but the bible does not teach that every person is good and has Jesus at his or her heart. You seem to be trying to enspouse Christian ideas that have no biblical foundation.

edit on 21-8-2013 by guitarplayer because: REPLIED TO WRONG PERSON EDITED OUT THAT PERSONS REMARKS

Originally posted by backcase
God looks upon the world, and what does God see? How does God react? What does God feel?
So I ask again: What does God think when we are looked upon by God?

I had this conversation with God last night; as follows:

VHB: What are you trying to do to me God? Kill me, its your arena what is your wish: to not just suffer as I do not understand my plight or reason for. Why do humans have to suffer, they are thinking beings unlike animal forms do not understand the kill or be killed attitude (eaten for sustenance).

God: The human has never understood its gift of self awareness, knowledge, free will unlike the simpler life forms that have no choice but to be in an environment hostile to its realm (one must eat to survive and that involves murder). You humans are selfish and believe all should be given to you (chosen ones) NO. You will perish through stupidity. Think yea not as any different than animals of the field or fish of the stream, birds of the sky. You are blessed with a mind and a consulting force (YOURSELF THROUGH ME). You do not take advantage of any of this as you are extremely EGO driven. If you were to drop the corpse of Egoism you might begin to understand my mind (YOUR MIND).

VHB: If I am your mind as well, what is the difference?

GOD: You are physical and must navigate the 3rd dimension. I am all seeing but allow for EVERYTHING TO EXIST/HAPPEN simoultaniously. So I am you experiencing your failures and triumphs in massive amount (think about all of history AT ONCE).

VHB: You cannot feel, because you are spirit and not hormonal as regards elicits emotion.

GOD: REALLY? I experience you as you all in hormonal depth because I occupy you. Make no mistake I live within you; just as I do every living being upon this planet, insect specie, bird etc. I created all of you so have access to you, why would you think I cannot at will enter your body?

VHB: I know of one God "A" relegated spirit Meso american "Atlajala" that lives in a circular valley in Mexico that native americans fear because has the ability to occupy all inhabitants of the valley (any specie) for fun--to pass the afternoon and if it gets ahold of a human non-Indian has great fun (rare occurance).

GOD: Not a myth, and not relegated to a valley in the Mexico Interior. I; just like you when leaving your human self, (?????) as you do this all of the time when asleep and experience other lifeforms as well. You do experience all forms of living matter "nature" you call it. You know very well whom you are speaking to as I percieved the question in your brow, whom you are speaking to IS YOURSELF

VHB: Point of the human?

GOD: To express myself (in your creation) as the best and worst humanity has to offer with a free will allowance. What else would you expect of me? I am not a vengeful creator, I am loving and wish you humans gave me just a a minutea of respect WITHOUT THE WORSHIP. I am not one to cherish it, I shrink from it but always creative you. Go for the biggest and best built carnival ride---It is not that complicated, you dont have to pay 10.00 dollars a ride: ITS FREE FOR THE TAKING.

reply to post by backcase

We are not separate, we are one, and we are forgiven by God.

Those who have taken advantage of God's grace to become righteous will be forgiven their former sins committed before they had attained that state of sinlessness.
People who are content in their sinfulness are not "forgiven".

reply to post by guitarplayer


"“Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’" Mt 25:37 - 40

It is the essence of the words that matter. Seek that before anything else.

Originally posted by backcase
reply to post by wildtimes

 

God knows that man is imperfect. God knows our hearts and has mercy.

You are sure about that; God does know our hearts and is more inclined to show NO MERCY. Ask me how I know.

reply to post by backcase


How does one become righteous? It is not through works. It is through relationship in Christ. If there is no relationship there is no sanctification. all have sinned and fallen short all of our own righteousness is as filthy rags before God.

Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by backcase

 

We are not separate, we are one, and we are forgiven by God.

Those who have taken advantage of God's grace to become righteous will be forgiven their former sins committed before they had attained that state of sinlessness.
People who are content in their sinfulness are not "forgiven".

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No they wont be forgiven, not by God, that is the Jesus Architype to care of (if it even exists) an ideaform false that humans have overlaid the truth. People smart enough to acknowledge their malfescense are JUSTIFIED as in they feel no guilt or wrong doing. ITS PERFECTLY ALLOWED as a free will domaine. Those that regret their actions against others will be the ones in peril, because they are not perfect in their actions.