Muslim Brotherhoods Spiritual Leader Arrested

www.cnn.com...


There were two possible responses to the removal of Morsi: redo the whole process, new elections, new constitution, new government appointments; or, what the military government is currently doing: suppressing the brotherhood.

The quick-fix short term solution is the one liberals probably would prefer. Press the reset button and let supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood get a second chance to disturb the democratic process. Chances are, they wouldn't win the next election, but they would get a pretty fairly big chunk of the puzzle. What then? I find it hard to criticize this harsh response knowing that the Muslim Brotherhood seems more intent on fulfilling some eschatological vision of a future caliphate than dealing with the realistic issues plaguing Egypt.

So, the chosen solution appears to be a "civic cleansing" - getting rid of those forces which impede Egypt from developing into a viable economy and prosperous society.

Nobody likes the cancer analogy, but sometimes, certain social issues demand these sorts of responses. And no, lets not dabble in moral relativism. There is no equivalence between the backward beliefs and morality of Islamists and a liberal democracy. I am sure of that. The only people who aren't sure of that are those who would let their concerns for morality suppress their better judgements; if the Muslim Brotherhood were left alone, they would continue to hamstring the political life of Egyptians; there is no reason on earth why they should have to suffer this.

This is not like what the Nazis did; the Nazis hunted Jews. Here, in this case, the authorities are simply suppressing an ideology that is ineluctably at odds with a healthy democracy.

reply to post by Astrocyte

When I Saw your thread title, I was hoping to see that they had finally arrested and dismantled Al-CIAeda aka the CIA.

I am disappoint.

Good points. Not sure where this will lead. You wonder what the parallel would be here and should a government come down so harsh on an obviously large population of the country...meaning that they did win the election, they have a lot of support country wide. The old saying that "..what you resist persists." might apply here. The harder they come down on them the more support they get? It's out of our hands, to say the least.

Seems they are operating under a revised communist manifesto in many places, immigrate, infiltrate positions of power take over political positions, oust the former government and set up a caliph, effectively taking over a country. Just take a look at North Africa, parts of Russia and Malaysia... as immigrants they have no interest in blending in with the pre-existing culture, instead they use religious tolerance of other countries and demand they bend to their will or cry religious discrimination.

To stop this expansion, countries should adhere strongly to separation of church and state, to protect it's own culture and history or else... be taken over by a people that have no interest in the culture, history or people already residing there.

Note the use of "they" is a generalization; it is not meant to represent all people of a Muslim heritage. Looking at what's occurring, one cannot deny seeing this as a growing trend in places around the world. Demanding laws to change and adapt to sharia law... it's bad enough when one religious group already does that, yes... I am referring Christianity last thing the world needs is another trying to force beliefs onto the world with moralistic based laws. One can be moral without religion or laws, it's called doing whats right by your fellow man, regardless of belief or prejudice... no need for dogma, control, or a god existing for that to happen or be learned.

Respect and tolerance is sorely lacking for everyone in this world, and the poorly interpreted religions of the world is one of the main reasons for it. Even the constitutions of many countries are not taken exactly as written, they are constantly interpreted or twisted to fit the meaning of a specific agenda too. That in my opinion is the true fly in the jam causing this world problems. Mind you I am not trying to slam religion just shed a light that people really love using it as an excuse to harm instead of heal, hate instead of help, point a finger instead of tolerate... when the majority of the world are using religion for those purposes it is a concern of dire importance because then it has no real value to humanity.

Originally posted by amazing
Good points. Not sure where this will lead. You wonder what the parallel would be here and should a government come down so harsh on an obviously large population of the country...meaning that they did win the election, they have a lot of support country wide. The old saying that "..what you resist persists." might apply here. The harder they come down on them the more support they get? It's out of our hands, to say the least.

The opposite is true. Most Egyptians regard the Moslem Brotherhood as a bunch of fascist terrorists and approve their army's crackdown on them. Yes, the Brotherhood did win power democratically and there was a coup d'etat by the military. But the majority of Egyptians approved of the removal of President Morsi, especially after it emerged that the Obama Administration is covering up the fact that it was Morsi who sent in Egyptian jihadists to kill Ambassador Stevens
cynthiafarahat.com...
because Stevens disagreed with the US Government's secret and illegal selling of Stinger missiles to Syrian rebels (the American film mocking Mohammed was merely a phony cover for this attack) and because Morsi's administration had utterly failed to improve the Egyptian economy, even going to the IMF for a bail-out in return for raising fuel and food prices. The Egyptian military removed Morsi because it saw him as a traitor to Egypt, knowing that he was secretly working with radical Islamic activists inside the Obama administration to give back 40% of Sinai to the terrorist group Hamas (thereby reducing Egypt's security) as part of a wider peace deal with Israel in return for a squalid $8 billion handout to the Moslem Brotherhood.