Holy Carp! WH Had Advanced Notice That Greenwald's Partner Would be Detained 9 Hours At Heathrow!

You know I read about David Miranda's detention at Heathrow yesterday and was shocked that he was targeted for what seemed like a retribution. But now word has gotten out that the WH was aware of this before hand!

The maximum a person can be held is 9 hours, and David Miranda was held exactly 9 hours. Plus Miranda was the first person ever to be held for the whole 9 hours allowed. Upon release, they confiscated every single electronic device in his possession, computer, cell phone etc...

For those of you not familiar, Greenwald was the, UK's, The Guardian reporter who released Snowden's NSA leak. David Miranda is his partner in life. Why on earth should anyone be detaining the lover of a reporter?

The White House said that they were not involved in the Brazilian residents detainment. But something sounds fishy in Denmark if they knew of this in advance.

The White House was given advance notice of the British government’s plans to detain the partner of the Guardian reporter who has written a series of high-profile stories about U.S. surveillance practices, a spokesman said Monday.

In the daily White House briefing, spokesman Josh Earnest declined to condemn the detainment and didn’t directly answer questions about whether U.S. officials expressed any concern to their British counterparts about the U.K.’s plans.

WH spokesman Mr. Earnest's complete statement is available on video at this link. So what happened to Carney, has he had enough, or is he on vacation?

White House Had Advance Notice on Heathrow Detention

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Just a small update on the UK's follow up to this issue:

Senior politicians and an independent reviewer have said police must explain why David Miranda was detained for nine hours at Heathrow Airport

Police have not said why Mr Miranda was held, but he said he was kept in a room and quizzed by "six agents".

"I remained in a room, there were six different agents coming and going, talking to me," Mr Miranda said. "They asked questions about my entire life, about everything. "They took my computer, video game, mobile phone, my memory cards, everything."

David Miranda detention: MP asks police for explanation

Of course the White House knew. It was probably ordered, or at the very least "suggested" by the White House to detain him.

Technically, Greenwald is guilty of aiding and abetting Snowden....

Given that Greenwald is now threatening to release information damaging to the UK, I'd say it'll only be a matter of time before Greenwald ends up in jail, or as a statistic.

Darn.
M.

They will do anything to hide their crimes.

Shutting down Snowden's mouthpiece would be the easiest way.

I wish he would just release what he has.

I hate the slow drip of information. It must be damning...

Originally posted by whyamIhere
They will do anything to hide their crimes.

Shutting down Snowden's mouthpiece would be the easiest way.

I wish he would just release what he has.

I hate the slow drip of information. It must be damning...

There seems to be a reason more than just ratings driving this slow drip. Have you noticed that every time Obama lies, something new comes out refuting it? I suspect the last one will be the most incriminating.

Prior to this revelation I felt the trickle was strictly ratings, Now I am not so certain.

For them to go as far as detaining a reporters lover, there must be some really good stuff out there yet. It has been mentioned that Snowden has some sort of insurance. To be honest, I feel that the US would have taken him out already if it wasn't for this insurance. Hold on to your seats folks, this is gonna get very ugly!

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I think these people are tied to a much larger organization, one the US government is desperate to rid the world of.

Manning
Assange
Snowden


These are the people that feed ANONYMOUS their Intel, i think Snowden has a lot of info. Evidence that would indict the US and maybe its allies in some nefarious actions.

I think Snowden has the holy grail of data in his possession.

Unless they really do spend 20K for a toilet seat in the white house and just dont want the people asking wheres their reclining gold john?

That's the only reason i can come up with as to why he is so important. Why not just shun him is he is a common traitor. Is the cost and expense of getting him returned here worth all this?

OP, with love, it's a good thread which I S&F'd. Fix the title before the Grammar Police show up.

Originally posted by graceunderpressure
OP, with love, it's a good thread which I S&F'd. Fix the title before the Grammar Police show up.

This was purely intentional, gosh dang by golly. Even though the original word isn't all that bad, Elouina does not have a potty mouth.

Anyways, I am awaiting a leak from a whistleblower on yet another scandal. Come on folks, don't let me down! Tell me that the White House sicked them on a reporters lover.

Just poped up in the guardian.

In his first interview since returning to his home in Rio de Janeiro early on Monday, Miranda said the authorities in the UK had pandered to the US in trying to intimidate him and force him to reveal the passwords to his computer and mobile phone.

"They were threatening me all the time and saying I would be put in jail if I didn't co-operate," said Miranda. "They treated me like I was a criminal or someone about to attack the UK … It was exhausting and frustrating, but I knew I wasn't doing anything wrong."

David Miranda: 'They said I would be put in jail if I didn't co-operate'

This was purely intentional, gosh dang by golly.

Even though the original word isn't all that bad, Elouina does not have a potty mouth.

Awesome, Elouina! You're a model for people like me who have enough quarters in the "swear jar" to fund a weekend in Vegas.

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He was detained, IMO, because he had just returned from Berlin, a trip paid for by The Guardian, where he met with the controversial American documentary film maker, Laura Poitras, the only other person other than Greenwald, with full access to the NSA surveillance disclosures, and was on his way to South America. Being Greenwald's life partner was not the reason.....I don't think, but it is an additional connection.

Ms. Poitras is on the DHS watch list for some reason. They were just connecting the dots and perhaps thought he acquired some information that would help them get to Snowden.

Are they justified in doing this?

I think the U.S. considers Edward Snowden a cyber terrorist at this point, but they have not formally stated such as yet, and anyone that aids and abets will be on the g'ment's radar.

It's hard to say this

I want Bush back..

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So now they are redefining terrorism to suit their needs? I would be hard pressed to consider what Snowden did as terrorism. Many in the UK are even clamoring over this and are calling for more restricted use of this detention clause.

Lets see now, he stole some documents and exposed them... Oh my, my knees are shaking because I am very very frightened of Snowden.

Terrorism

the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.

The only ones being terrorized by Snowden are the criminals hiding this crap from us, and rightly so. Good work Snowden!

Plus, after I posted this thread, but before your post, I found out that Miranda is a sort of small time Journalist. Even more reason to leave him alone!

Why do they get to keep his stuff if they found no reason to detain him further? Sounds like the suspicion of drugs crap here in the US.

Anyway, that the WH knew is the sickest fact in an entirely sick affair.

I reeeeeally hope this is it. I hope people finally call BS on this criminal administration and I say that as a former supporter. Enough is enough, we need to demand accountability or people need to start getting indicted.

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It's kind of obvious that the US had their hand in this. This was purely an intimidation tactic.

It's kind of funny that here in America we view our government as the problem.

I suppose it is the same in the UK.

In reality this isn't a national scandal. None of these so called American scandals aren't really national scandals. They are global scandals. What happens in America affects the world.

Until we wake up to the reality that all of our governments are in bed together nothing will change. Regardless of what country you are from your government is the oppressor.

I like to think that when America wakes up we'll put an end to this carp.

Wouldn't it be cool if the entire world woke up.


edit to add: changed crap to carp

So it appears that there was a hand off of info involved. Greenwald has been told by the UK not to report any more info, and gov officials watched them destroy computers in the Guardian basement. So Miranda took info to that Poitras, in Berlin, and was taking back additional info to the UK. This was because reporting has to be done out of the UK now.

So all of this was to prevent freedom of the press! Thus why his electronics were kept! Now tell me the US wasn't involved in this? I bet our congressmen are carping their pants after hearing this!

Greenwald told the New York Times that Miranda went to Berlin to deliver materials downloaded by Snowden to Poitras and to acquire from Poitras a different set of materials for delivery to Greenwald, who lives with Miranda near Rio de Janeiro.

Britain forced Guardian to destroy copy of Snowden material

Originally posted by goou111
It's hard to say this

I want Bush back..

If you think Bush is any different from Obama your thinking it wrong. Both parties are the same remember in 2012? what did Romney say about Russia? oh thats right he treats Russia as a foe.

A Great way to start a war if you ask me.

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter

Originally posted by goou111
It's hard to say this

I want Bush back..

If you think Bush is any different from Obama your thinking it wrong. Both parties are the same remember in 2012? what did Romney say about Russia? oh thats right he treats Russia as a foe.

A Great way to start a war if you ask me.

I did not like Bush at all

But at least he made me laugh.. Obama just makes me sick

Originally posted by goou111
It's hard to say this

I want Bush back..

Sad to see such ignorance is still dominating the minds of Americans.
This whole Left/Right Democrat/Republican Liberal/Conservative thing has been the most effective psy-op in history.
It is so powerful that no matter how clear it becomes that it is a psy-op, people will still refuse to admit to themselves that it is a psy-op.